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Badly executed or bad idea from the start?


I was opposed to this war personally, not because I'm a crazed liberal Michael Moore-type, but because I had a hunch it would end up like this. I guess I kind of disagree with the premise of this movie that the war COULD have been sucessful, but it at least could have been a mitigated disaster (like the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the 1980's) instead of the unmitigated one that it's been so far.

The problem is that we DID invade Iraq, and the question is what to do now. Unfortunately, on one hand you have the Bushistas blathering about "fighting them over there, so we don't have fight them over here"--as if bogging down almost our entire military in Iraq is stopping the Al Qaeda leadership (currently being ignored somewhere in Pakistan or Afghanistan) from recruiting angry Muslims from all over the world to attack the US homeland. I don't if this is outright stupidity or an outright lie, but it's equally wrong regardless. On the other hand though, you have the liberal and Democrats (many of whom lined up right behind Bush at the beginning of the war lest they appear "unpatriotic") who seem to think (or try to claim) that we can just walk away from this mess we made and not hand a HUGE PR victory to Al Qaeda and America's enemies.

The lesson I drew from this particular documentary is that even something that is a bad idea to begin with can STILL be badly executing to boot. Since we can't go back in time to 2003, we need to learn from these early mistakes. For instance, instead of trying continuing to fight this war on the cheap, we need to RAISE rather than lower taxes on the wealthy (Bush's other idiotic obsession), and think about re-instituting the draft for a real "surge" to clean up the mess we have made of that country. Besides the fact that we might actually "win" in Iraq(and by that I mean leave the country a little better of than we found it), it's also very possible that in the future so many people will not make such foolish decisions when they realize that it's not just somebody else who is going to be called on to make the "sacrifice".

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Ok, i'm the only one to respond to you. look, this is simple. YOU (like most everyone else here) MISS THE POINT.
please, read this interview.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html

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"please, read this interview.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html";


Damn... Felt as if I was reading "The Onion"...


"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
Oscar Wilde

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lazarillo, I really agree with your whole post, with one tiny observation: I don't think the film claims the invasion could have been successful - it rather just denounces the incompetence, ignorance and indolence of the people involved in orchestrating and managing it, and suggests it could have had a better outcome, even if still a bad one, but at least be shorter and less costly, not be such a blow to our economy and not wreck that unfortunate country completely...


"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
Oscar Wilde

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