How can an unchosen birth trait be a sin?

a problem in an organized religious mind is this concept that we are above the animals. animals aren't organized into a faith. we can't be an animal. because they don't see that we are animals they negate the fact that animals have gay members of their species. sometimes bi sexual. so humans being animals, some turn out gay. the thing is we are animals, but we stride to not be animalistic. we are civilized.

"Hating on haters is a form of Hatin!"

I was born single, but fornication is a sin. Babies are born addicted to crack because of the choices of their parents--is that their fault?

Psychopaths are also born that way. Their brains lack the basic wiring that trigger empathy and compassion. New science also provides strong evidence that people are born pedophiles.

Everyone is born with iniquities. Just because the physical nature of how someone is put together is involved in their identity, it doesn't mean that everything about them is whole. If that were so, then psychopaths and pedophiles also deserve compassion when they murder or molest children. They can't help it--they were actually born that way. People say that it's different because they are harming others, but if they were born with a brain and chemical mix to do those things and they can't help it, why don't we feel sorry for them?

People don't say things like this out loud because the general public will then say,"Oh you hate gays! You are calling them pedophiles and psychopaths!" No, I am calling them born into sin like the rest of the world's population. My natural inclinations do not pardon me from obedience.

Single straight Christians spend decades without having sex because of their conviction about having sex outside of marriage. People who don't believe the Bible is the Word of God would think they are crazy or at the least worthy of pity for refusing their basic drive for sex.

At the end of the day, these are my opinions, but I have to answer for myself so I worry about my own sins the most. Conviction comes from the Holy Spirit.

I know this is a rather old post, but I felt it unfair to post in this thread without responding to your original question/thoughts.

Now that it's several years later (and much change) what have you learned through your own experience? What conclusions did you come to? Lastly, why do you concern yourself with sin at all? If you read this I would love to hear more (and I know you don't owe it to me or anyone else.)

Thanks!

That's why they strive so hard to force the idea that being gay is a choice, not an innate characteristic. Because then they can condemn it, and demand that people suppress it. As you clearly recognise, they don't actually know anything about it; it's empty ideology.

That, and their Plan B (the "God loves the sinner but hates the sin" sophistry) is something that makes me disgusted by modern Christianity, especially the American strain. (I consider it Paulinism rather than Christianity, but that's a different conversation.)

I think the only thing we can do is to recognise that it's just their construct. It's not objective reality. It's going to be hard if you want to be part of a congregation that holds that view, but beyond that, you don't need to take it on.



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

My entire life, I have always had an uncontrollable compulsion to steal and lie. No matter how hard I tried to retrain my brain, the attraction to commit these acts has always been overwhelming.

Does attraction justify action? If not all cases, why only yours? Why can't other sins be pardoned.

Ridiculous logic.

It's called TEMPTATION and guess what? EVERYONE struggles with it. Even Jesus Christ Himself. You have no basic concept of what morality is. Morality is withholding from certain behaviors despite the desires you might have.

Please get your Hippie value of "if it feels good, do it" out of the conscious of Christianity. Sickening stuff from the OP.