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Missed Opportunity at the End


The scene between Kate Lloyd and Sam Carter-Thing was fairly interesting in the sense where you catch a glimpse of the Thing being more or less cornerned and exposed with its guise down.

What a missed opportunity. I think they should have drawn out the the dialog in the scene longer where, her being in the scientific community maybe she'd have a few more questions for this being since its the first sentient off world species humans have encountered? Its not like it was going anywhere with a flamethrower pointed at it.

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Excellent idea. It would have been fun to see what an imaginative writer could have done with that.

...then whoa, differences...

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For Kate to have engaged it in conversation when it was obvious she knew it was a thing, would be pretty dumb on her part. She's smart enough to know that most animals act violently when cornered or threatened, and she's smart enough to know that a single cell of thing would be able to take her over completely. All the thing had to do at that point was spit on her, and she knows it.

Unless they wanted to set up ANOTHER film, the script needed her to despatch Carter-Thing quickly. Frankly, if I was her, I'd have done it sooner than she did.

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I wouldn't talk to it - the Thing has already made it clear that it acts with singular purpose. It probably doesn't see humans as anything other than food. It wouldn't stoop to talking with its food, even if the food fights back

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There'd be no talking to it; the thing is insane.

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Agreed.

Poorly Lived and Poorly Died, Poorly Buried and No One Cried

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The Thing is like a big dumb animal, it can't be reasoned or talked with.

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On the contrary, While the thing is an animal (I would argue insect-like) it is far from dumb. As we noted from both the 1982 and 2011 films, the Thing understands how to create false leads, red herrings, how to make the humans fight among themselves, and jump to conclusions. The Thing is very smart and very patient.

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I like to think that the Thing is no more intelligent than whatever it's mimicking at the moment.

It can't be reasoned with or talked with, even when it's mimicking a human, because its sole imperative is replication. Anything it says or does will be in service of that goal.

I also like to think that the Thing, in its natural form, is just a single cell.

Where survival and replication are the driving motivators for any single cell, a Thing cell takes this up to "11."

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How do you explain its interstellar spaceship?

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LOL. This...

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It Thing’ed the crew of that ship, obviously.

The crew either collected the Thing or created it. Either way, it got out and started Thing’ing them all.

So their version of MacReady crashed the ship on our planet to avoid infecting their own home.

Thanks a lot, alien-Mac

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What crew? It's been a long time, I don't even remember a crew?

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It's the biological equivalent of the Borg. It assimilates other species at the cellular level and learns everything about them in the process. And is always hungry for more.

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For a dumb animal, they are great at building ships and flying them....

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Except the Thing didn't build or fly the ship. It escaped from one of the ship's pods and attacked the alien crew, forcing the ship to crash onto earth.

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Wow!

I hadn't thought of that! Interesting take.

So then, similar to Alien, Resurrection, the original aliens used this animal/cargo as a weapon. Maybe the saucer pilots' plan was to take over life on Earth with this dangerous life form and only they had some way of eradicating it when their goal was achieved? Maybe some bacterium?

Only "thing," that doesn't hold with the premise of the original "Thing from Another World" and the short story "Who Goes There."

Plus in those, the Thing was more vegetable than animal OR insect.

So it depends on where one draws facts for the canon.

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That scenario may exist in the book(s) or other film tie-in material, but it is not even implicit in the film. If the Thing was only a caged "sample", what could have been its interest in getting back to the ship...and then starting it up for flight? A caged sample should not have that knowledge, unless it absorbed it from one or another of the alien crew that it absorbed. But if it had absorbed such knowlege, what was the point in it going through all the adventure and misadventure with Earthlings, when it didn't need to leave the ship to start with? With its purported knowledge of how the ship worked, it could have killed the crew and flown away without any involvement with humans. Or, if the premise is that the ship was disabled and the Thing could not escape for that reason, then why does it "steal" the vehicle and head back to the ship; and further, why does it start the ship back up? This latter premise supports the idea that the Thing knew how to fly that spaceship, so again: why did it leave the saucer at all after it killed the crew?

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Maybe it spent a few years/decades repairing the ship, but then ran out of sustenance and so left she ship in search of fresh DNA.

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The Thing has a natural hunger for new species to assimilate and replicate, just like the Human race has a hunger for knowledge and procreation. That's why it wanted to explore the Earth instead of just flying away.

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Where did you get that from?

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and then Tarantino takes over the script for a 2 hour dialogue :-P

Born2Burn

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... while showing lots of feet.

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