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Cool movie, stop hatin'


It's not called On Golden Pond, it's called The Thing. It's just a fantasy ( ha, Aldo Nova reference ). It's not winning Oscars for best drama. Just get a buzz and enjoy. Geeze.

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I agree. A scary, hard-driven sci fi-horror film. Not a classic like the Carpenter film. Not a "rigid" prequel because it did violate some of the history and exobiology previously established in the Carpenter film. But as a horror story which is more than "in The Thing genre", but does offer some speculation as to what happened to "the Swedes" before the dog and the Norge chopper appear at MacReady's base. It's an effort. Not an excellent one, but watchable, entertaining, and frightening.

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I agree that the prequel is definitely a cool movie.

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I liked it, but it was basically a remake of the original. I was hoping for some more information on the origin of the creature.

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The biggest problem with the film, is that the original Thing was such a milestone in horror, that it would be a very tough challenge to surpass it. The tension, the acting, the atmosphere, the score and, of course, the special effects. While they don't look quite as amazing as they did back then, they still hold up WAY better and are much more believable than the garbage presented here, everything is spot on in that film.

It says a LOT about the quality of a film when it's 30+ year old version holds up better in every single respect than the one that barely came out 4 years ago (I know it's supposed to be a prequel, but for f.cks sake, it follows the original in basically every plot point and it even has the same title...). The original is way more than just a random popcorn horror film, it doesn't matter that it's called "The Thing", it's one of the greatest achievements in film history and if you're going to follow it up, you better get your sh.t together and do everything you can to make it as good as possible and aside from the practical effects guys who got their amazing work ruined by the producers, it's very obvious that they didn't and this was nothing more than a shameless cashgrab.

"Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

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Nostalgia is distorting your perception, it is obvious that the new effects look a lot better.

Some of the 82 effects are laughable.

Sorry if this offends you and cracks your rose-tinted glasses.

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Why would that offend me?

"Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

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Sorry if IF IF IF

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LOL

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But they clearly don't look better than the 82 film.
I watched them back to back.

You can take your snarky comment and shove it up your ass, sorry if that offends you.

CGI can look stunning, but it needs to be done properly not to look like digital garbage.
It's worse for me since I do a lot of 3D rendering, I can spot the flaws easier.

I'll take 'okay' practical effects over 'okay' CGI, every time.

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I agree with this wholeheartedly.

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Don’t be sorry about saying something rude to an asshole who’s asking for it.

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I know everyone is entitled to an opinion, but that's just... wrong.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"

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Nostalgia is distorting your perception, it is obvious that the new effects look a lot better.
You are high.

The effects in the 82 film still hold up to this day.

The effects in the pre-make are some of the worst CGI ever featured in a wide theatrical release. It would have looked dated in 2001, let alone 2011.

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Not really. There's a difference between the effects in this and the practical effects in the 1982 film. They looked grotesque, but they add a sense of work and creativity in the film. With the prequel on the other hand, I'm fine with CGI sometimes if done well, but the effects on the creature were just terrible. It looked so rubbery, artificial and fake that it looked like a spaghetti monster.

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Agreed. It's the same with the Alien movies......well the first two anyway. None of the other Alien movies have captured that same suspense as the originals.

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You should really watch the third one again. And, this is coming from a guy who considers the first Alien to be a perfect movie, and who's favorite movie of all time is Aliens.
The third movie is incredibly suspenseful, and wrought with tension.

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To be fair i didnt mind Alien 3, but the CGI was God awful in places! Aliens was my fav!

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There was no CGI in Alien 3...

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There was no CGI in Alien 3...


Yes there was.

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No, there wasn't. Digitally composited effects are not computer generated effects.
There was no CGI in Alien 3. Watch the bts footage. The xenomorph itself was a puppet that they would film, and then digitally composite into the shot. It wasn't CGI.
As far as I'm aware, and I'd bet money on this, the first noticeable use of CG elements in an Alien movie was in Alien Resurrection. That movie was loaded with CGI. So, again, no there was no CGI in Alien 3.

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The Thing (1982) wasn't a milestone;
- Critics panned it.
- It flopped at the box office. (Poltergeist dicked it so hard that it was above The Things opening weekend during it's 4th weekend)
- It derailed John Carpenter's career.
- It was nominated for a razzie for worst OST.
- It was simply a gory action packed remake of another movie. How can a 'remake' be a milestone? I thought remakes were silly cash grab rip-offs?


You want a milestone?

Alien (1979) was a milestone;
- Critically acclaimed.
- Big box office hit.
- Helped launch Ridley Scott's career.
- Nominated for Academy Awards.
- Was an original I.P. that launched one of the biggest and most beloved Sci-Fi franchises of all time.



The only things The Thing has going for it is critical re-evaluation and good ratings on fan sites like IMDb.

Newsflash:
- It's easy to praise a movie as an all time great decades after it's release when it has became a beloved classic. See Roger Ebert dissing The Shining during 1980 only to come back nearly two decades later and call it a masterpiece.
- A good rating on IMDb and Letterboxd doesn't make you a milestone.

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I'd rather watch the 1982 version since they're the same damn film with different director and actors.

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It would have been much better if it made sense. The fact that most of the vehicles, props, and clothes look modern, and nothing like you would see in 1982. The fact that pretty much all of the thing's attacks make no sense in the original context. The fillings test being entirely based on the concept of everyone having fillings...

It's like someone read the plot synopsis for the original movie and then figured that was enough information to do a prequel. I would be fine with the CG bs and all of that if the movie just made sense.

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80% of the special effects completely stunk (awful CGI), among other problems. If they had stuck to the more "practical effects" of the thing autopsy scene then I might be more forgiving. They blew it. There were just two scenes I considered worthy of Carpenter's masterpiece: (1) the autopsy scene, and (2) the fillings check scene, which was pretty tense.

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Having just finished watching it, I have to agree with the OP.

It's not as good as the 1982 film, but it's not completely awful. Certainly not nearly as bad as I was expecting. All in all, it was a decent enough piece of brain-in-neutral entertainment. I say around 6 stars worth.

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