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If America Bans Guns, We Wouldn't Have Great Shows Like BB


That's the only good reason for keeping guns, I guess.

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There's always Phosphine gas, motorcycle locks, fulminated Mercury, ATM skull compaction, heroin OD, air plane collisions, car run down, ax to the head, box cutters, jail house shivs & gasoline fire, cartel poisoning of some sort, wheel chair bombs, hand-cuff strangulation, and of course - ricin (not to mention cancer). Missing any?

I'm sure they'd find a way to replace the gun killings.

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Well said, Swolbach. Well said. BTW, you forgot a hammer to the head, which was used very effectively in the first season
of Fargo.


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Yeah , and if we didnt have lightsabres , we wouldnt have great films like Star Wars.

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Don't worry, America will NEVER do that. And even if it does, do you REALLY think all legal gun owners are going to turn in their guns? Hint: They won't.


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I'd barely call it a great show. How many black and asian characters were in it?

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What proportion of the population of Albuquerque is black or Asian?

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Here we go with the political agenda... again... and again...

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This would be NeverNever Land if we could ban all the political topics and the dimwitted and angry peasants who flock to them. But, nooooo, ā€˜cause entertainment and politics go together like Beluga Caviar and leper feces.

Freaking idiot site alleged designers. Hey, Jimbo! Are you dead yet?

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Here in the UK we have almost no legally owned guns - but plenty of illegally owned firearms and lots of knives and plenty of criminals/terrorists willing to use them.

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Yeah but the U.K. has about 30 gun deaths a year while America has 11,000

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That's more about the people than the guns.

Guns are inanimate objects. They don't hurt anyone. A human being with intent to hurt causes violence, with ANY object.

Also, you are free to move to the U.K. if it makes you feel safer.

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Why are you being so defensive? This is what I donā€™t get, iā€™m Not anti-gun rights. God forbid you lay out some statistics about gun crime in the U.S. and suddenly you get a cookie cutter statement about guns not killing people, people kill people and told to that Iā€™m welcome to leave the country. Gee, thanks, this is a real problem for gun advocates, itā€™s an over reaction that does harm to your opinion.

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I'm not a gun nut. I own one gun.

I'm not being defensive either. They are simply true statements. Guns don't kill people. People do. If you believe it's safer in the U.K., you are free citizen to go where you feel safer. If not, you are welcome to stay too.

What is so wrong with those statements?

Gun violence is definitely a problem in this country. It's awful. There are no easy answers. In my opinion ignoring the human element of all of this, and simply focusing on the number of guns owned is the wrong course of action.

Just like with anything else, the only ones going to be punished are good people and law abiding citizens.

At my work office, there is a sign that says "no weapons allowed", and it has pictures of knives and guns. I always laugh everyday I walk passed it, because if a killer or active shooter walked into the building, do you think he would see that sign, say "oh shit, I'm sorry, I didn't see that sign", and then lay down his weapons and leave? Hell no.

All that sign says to a nutcase murderer is "alright, nobody is going to be able to defend themselves if I go in there shooting."

There are so many law abiding gun owners who walk passed you every day who are carrying a weapon, and you have no idea. And everybody survives. It's crazy, isn't it?

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Did I call you a gun nut? Jesus.

You arenā€™t being defensive by replying to my statistics by saying I can leave the country and defending guns rights as though I said ANYTHING about that?

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Gun nut? No, but gun advocate. I added the implication.

No different than you saying I am telling you to leave the country, when I said if you don't feel safe you're free to go somewhere else IF YOU CHOOSE. I never told you to do anything.

But if this is the way this discussion is going to go, let's just call it a draw and move on with our lives, haha.

Have a good day.

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Please. You are absolutely transparent.

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How so?

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sut6432 , would you "advocate" banning guns if you lived in a country that wasnt absolutely swamped with them?
Like if you lived in the UK would you be all like:
"man , we need to get some guns up in here!"
or would you think :
"hmm guns are so hard to get hold of , even the criminals dont have them - perhaps its better that way and i can live without having a gun if it maintains the 'nobodys got a gun' status quo"

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"No different than you saying I am telling you to leave the country, when I said if you don't feel safe you're free to go somewhere else IF YOU CHOOSE. I never told you to do anything."

No matter how you put it or what is your nuance, this statement might sound offensive. It is to me. I think that people who say that are arrogant little bitches.

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Oh well...it's 2019. Everything can be considered offensive.

Hey, if you don't like my statement, you're more than welcome to move somewhere where they don't allow free speech. Lol.

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THere is a nuance between having the right to free-speech and being an asshole.

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What an absurd premise and stupid opinion.
Have you seen Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels? How about Snatch? Both take place in the gun-prohibiting UK and have plenty of gun violence.

You should check out Mexico and Brazil. They have EXTREMELY strict gun laws and insanely high rates of gun crime.

[Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day. Most often, the gun is never fired, and no blood (including the criminalā€™s) is shed.
Every year, 400,000 life-threatening violent crimes are prevented using firearms.
60 percent of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. Forty percent of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed.
Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot.
Fewer than 1 percent of firearms are used in the commission of a crime.]

https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/

Most "gun deaths" in the US are suicides.
[The poll asked more than 1,000 Americans what they think the leading cause of gun deaths is.

Thirty-three percent of respondents chose homicides outside of mass shootings, while 25% thought that mass shootings caused the most gun deaths. Only 23% correctly identified suicides as the leading cause. The remaining respondents chose accidental shootings or said they didnā€™t know.

Jennifer Stuber, a professor of social work at University of Washington and founder of Forefront Suicide Prevention, said the findings are unsurprising given the intense media coverage of events like mass shootings.

ā€œWhat I think drives it is the way in which we cover the issues of firearms fatalities in the news and popular culture, whether thatā€™s TV, movies, etc.,ā€ she said.

In reality, fully 60% of gun deaths in the U.S. every year are suicides.]

https://www.opb.org/news/article/us-gun-deaths-suicides-poll/

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