Seems to be a downrating campaign

You expect someone with the same mindset as Adolf Hitler to explain, and even if they had, do you honestly expect it to be rational?

I gave this a 7/10 probably just because of the Dylan songs. Other than that the indignation on this guys face in EVERY shot was a little overbearing. He must have had that looked glued on or something, or maybe there is something to that old wives tell your mom used to tell you.

First the starting point was garbage, I mean when has [u]majority[/u] culture not overruled minorities or subculture?? No one should be that shocked if a black kid that comes to a predominately white school isn't pressured to listen to britney spears or Nickelback! They live around crazy mega churches, that *beep* should be expected. It doesn't mean it's right, but then neither was it right for kids to harass or tease me either, or for the VAST majority. It's called life, get a grip. The only adverse thing that should be examined is the tactics for conversion by eternal damnation. That's not fair, and there isn't a real follower of Christ that reads the Bible and can simultaneously use his/her brain that thinks this is acceptable. It's like the argument for torture. We know it doesn't work, why is it still used?? You might scare someone to christ, but then they turn out like Dawkins or worse, Haggard. -


Was the first Jew he interviewed just some random guy? What was his deal? You could tell that instead of saying non-jews, he wanted to desperately say Christians. And then, probably the most bizarre incident of the entire movie was the "Bible Scholar" lady. "Jesus definitely saw himself as a devout Jew. a prophet and was called Rabbi." Well if that isn't the understatement of the entire movie. Yes "Bible Scholar" he was in fact a Jewish Rabbi, in fact, THE Jewish Rabbi, and in fact the LAST Jewish Rabbi, the Jewish Rabbi that was promised to be the unblemished sacrifice for sin, once and for all, no more temple, no more tradition, the complete fulfillment of the scripture. To her it's "an extraordinary twist," of what happened for people to accuse the Jews of killing the Messiah. Basically she recounts that Jewish leaders arrested him, tried him and then sentenced him to death and they "duped" the Roman authorities to kill him. Whereupon Mr. Indignant poses the bizarre question of if it is "true to history". Where she replies, "It looks completely at odds with what we know about history." Interesting. She says that if you read the Gospels you will come to think that it was the Jews that engineered it. Huh? With such a blanket, vague answer she seems to vilify the whole of the new testament. Even treating it as less than a legitimate historical source, which is most odd, considering it is THE single best source we have of the entire occasion. Perhaps she is a scholar of the Jehovas Witness transcription or maybe even of the Catholic Bible, who knows where she's getting these things. Jewish government at the time bordered on Theocracy and an Oligarchy. From which came the plot to get the Romans to crucify Jesus, I'm not sure how she missed this or thinks this is inconsistent with history considering that is exactly what you would expect from this particular pecuilar government in Isreal so the death wouldn't be on them for moral and political reasons. It's completely consistent with history, especially first century Jewish history. The problem with this particular set up with the "Bible Scholar" is it sets up a straw man for most of the movie. A veritable handful of Jews convinced other Jews and the Romans one man should be put to death. We are deceived by George Bush all the time, so one can reason this is in fact consistent with reality. Not every Jew, especially followers and sympathizers, such as Joseph of Arimathaea would have been agreed to this, probably most weren't.

The point is, Jesus was a Jew, who else would have conspired to kill him? I don't remember reading anywhere he was an international criminal? If you go to a church that espouses nonsense as this straw man, it's a good indication you're going to the wrong church. In fact, it can be used as a measuring stick for churches. A very, very basic fundamental rule of thumb. Don't go there if they espouse racism or hate of any kind. (Kind of obvious imo)

One of my favorite quotes of the movie to show how ignorant this guy is:
"If Jesus would have died here, it wouldn't have been as savior of the
world. But as an unknown jew with a number on his arm."

On a lighter note, besides the obvious leaps in logic, I always enjoy a good history lesson with great cinematography. I'm not sure what conclusion, other than 'religion and politics don't mix' (that's fairly obvious too, imo) and that you should stay away from evangelicals, because once they gain a foothold every Jew or Muslim isn't sacred.

He wanted to know the root cause of anti-semitism. The main cause is the Catholic Church and they began on a premise of successive power on a single verse in the new testament about Peter that only existed in their minds. It's really a shame Catholics are called Christians tbh, they worship crackers, do magic, worship all manner of idols, especially Mary, destroy culture and grasp at enormous power. I'm more scared of any Power hungry religion than sincere evangelicals desiring your longevity.

end rant.

Wow, gringott is quite agitated...yes, our biggest threat here in America...socialism. Especially those socialists on Wall Street... Gotta go now; unlike gringott, I can't devote all this time to exposing FDR's socialism...I HAVE a life! Love&Peace to all the faiths.

What a weird response.

Agree with you gringott! Hitler didn`t like christianity and wanted to destroy it after he was finnish with the jews! Hitler wanted absolute power but christianity was in his way! He hated christian people and jews! Hitler`s right hand Himmler was an hedonist and hated christianity too! I am from Norway and without christianity the world would have been a much more dangerous place!