Anybody believe Mickey Steele and Jack Whomes are innocent??
Pat Tate, Tony Tucker and company sure as hell had a lot of enemies, i think they got the right guys, anybody think different??
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what about the guys who shot them, they must know as well.
shareI quite liked the Police theory.
shareAre the British police up for that? I've always had the impression that British cops were soft. They don't even carry sidearms, do they?
shareSeriously, man. That kind of *beep* has no basis at all. Britain has "Armed Police", and everyone else.
Besides, why would British cops clip a few gangsters with their service pistols/shotguns? I'm sure they had throwaways.
Steele and Whomes should be released anyway. No real evidence. I guess the crime outraged the community enough that it had to be dealt with.
Quite typical of americans to think a stereotyped image of a bobby running down the street after a thug, with his baton in hand is the reality of the british police force.
Wake up dude!!
Every police force in the world requires its' officers to carry sidearms. Bear in mind that stereotypes are not always correct. Try to let common sense overrule preconceived notions. It'll stand you in better stead.
Peace.
Really? According to Wikipedia "In the United Kingdom, the majority of police officers do not carry firearms, except in special circumstances."
A simple Google search will give you some interesting information on British police and firearms.
The Police have access to armed response units in all major cities 24 hours a day these units are specially trained in the use of firearms, but the standard Police officer does not carry any sort of firearm, some of them will carry pepper spray or other such items.
Back when this film was made very few Police officers would have carried firearms.
strength & honour!
Unlike USA where everyman and his dog have a gun, UK is different (thank god!) and very few people carry guns, so the police only need a few officers to carry guns.
If the situation calls for it, the police will be there with lots of guns.
UK coppers are the opposite of soft, they do the same job as USA cops but WITHOUT guns! In my mind that makes them much tougher... takes much less courage for a cop to face a criminal with a gun drawn, imagine doing it without one.
"do you not hear that dreadful noise all around ? that’s the sound that screaming men call silence"
The police can be every bit as corrupt as any villan.
sharebagabot...
Cops in America have guns because criminals have guns. Not because it makes them feel tough. If guns were plentiful in the UK your "tougher" coppers would be packing as well.
Eh? Thats what i wrote, i said everyone in USA has guns and UK doesnt, thats why UK cops dont carry guns. Can you read?
It just so happens that unarmed cops often come up against armed criminals, make of that what you will, i think it takes even more bravery to be an unarmed cop than an armed one.
"Fiery the angels rose, and as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores"
>and very few people carry guns
Almost all of them, sadly, criminals...
That's one of the paradoxes of gun control. By and large the main people who would adhere to stricter/changes in gun laws are honest law abiding people. So you (and I'm not saying this as being in support of guns for all, or the opposite) at least theoretically will have less chance of the usually decent person losing the plot and gunning down their loved ones in a moment of loss of judgement. Paradoxically, the hardened criminals (by definition, sociopaths, who have no inner compulsion to adhere to any moral standard except that which benefits themselves) will still by and large have firearms, and know that there's a statisically much lesser chance that any of their potential victims are similarly armed.
No black and white answers. For what it's worth, parts of the UK have a very high crime rate, and frankly my hat goes off to anyone brave enough to join the police force and stand against it. I honestly don't think it's necessarily any more or less dangerous in other places where gun ownership is higher - after all, the majority of gun owners (in places where it is legal to do so) aren't criminals. It's likely that tactics/strategy differ in the US as to car stops etc, so in essence they work to suit the environment.
Sorry to have to disagree on this point, TedSeay, but:
">and very few people carry guns
Almost all of them, sadly, criminals... "
In Australia, outside of the millitary and paramilitary forces, the 'group' with the largest ownership of guns -according to the bureau of stats- are the farmers.
Though I expect this is because most farmers have numerous guns whereas the average Australian criminal is lucky to ever even see a single gun (and it probably belongs to a farmer even then).
Peace out.
Isnt much different seems to be more and more shootings all the time
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You hit the nail on the head there
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"Not tea sipping, middle class, douchebags that are so frustrated they have to fight over soccer games. "
I realise that America beats most places in the world in terms of nasty deranged villainous scum, and is populated in the main by proper retards, but you have succeeded in posting one of the dumbest things i have read. Congrats.
Try learning about the world around you, you insular redneck.
'Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd.'
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Thanks for the reply, now everyone can see what a twat you are.
'Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd.'
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C U Next Tuesday.
'Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd.'
just saw it
Dont know...didnt seem like they had a huge amount of evidence. And the witness was not trustworthy.
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Really? According to Wikipedia "In the United Kingdom, the majority of police officers do not carry firearms, except in special circumstances."
LMAO. Well if it says so on wikipedia then it must be true... share
LMAO. Well if it says so on wikipedia then it must be true...
Police officers in the UK do not carry guns, or at least the the police constables on patrol, and quite frankly I like it that way. The armed response unit carry guns. But "Bobby's on the beat" do not....I thought this was common knowledge for anyone who lives in the UK.
It's not infeasible that the police could have committed these murders....I mean, they could easily get access to the weapons with it being an underground unofficial project, and well, they are the police I doubt access to the weaponry would be a problem.
However I just don't believe that the police did it. share
Funny or not I could picture that in my head as I read it.
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There is no evidence in my opinion Darren Nichols is responsible for Steele and Whomes imprisonment he is a self-confessed liar so how can he be trusted I agree they should be released.
shareAre British cops human?
Are British criminals up for what the film showed?
I'm sure it's all possible but I'm not going to make any judgements based upon what I saw in a movie.
fu@*inell peeps have a word with yaselves!! as soon as someone shows a waterpistol they get f@*cked! if any report of a armed fellon goes down! its like SWAT! im pretty disturbed some peeps still think british cops have tits on there heads, the uk is a violent country! and the cops are prepared! ya sniffers!!
shareThe only times you see a british policeman with a gun is in an airport, outside key places(Parliament, Downing Stree etc) and Armed Response can be called on pretty quick...I think British Police should be Armed, I would personally welcome routine arming of the police here
shareWish I could "star" this comment lol I've read it aloud to my sister twice- she's ready to wallop me
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Conceive Deceive or Leave
I think the point being made here is that there are numerous documented situations where US Cops (especially the LAPD), circumvent the law and issue their own brand of vigilante justice. Excessive use of force and/or murder is not by a major city police department would set off any major alarms. The assumption was that this attitude was a uniquely American phenomenon partly because American police officers are as a standard more heavily armed then British police officers.
sharePat .... Your a legend mate.
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