~ Rosalyn was the "Night Hawk Killer". Right. She goes after blonds because she "wanted her mother dead," and by killing blonds over & over, she's in effect, killing her mother over & over.
~ The doctor was not a ghost, but her hallucination/memory. Right, except he gave her an abortion, not a hysterectomy. You can't perform a hysterectomy by going up through the vaginal canal, it has to be removed under full anesthesia with a laperotomy. If it was a hysterectomy, she would not have been prone in such a positions with her legs in stirrups, nor could she possibly have been awake during. Right after the abortion, she stabs the dr. in the head with the scalpel & he dies. Notice at the beginning of the movie, one of the first files Rosalyn looks at with her husband is the skull x-ray with the scalpel stuck in it. So from the beginning, the dr. is long dead. All the interactions she has with him after that (aside from the flashbacks) are just her hallucinating; he's not a ghost. The reason she may have thought she was sterile was because often scar tissue left from an abortion may make it difficult to get pregnant (although, not entirely impossible, thus explaining how she is pregnant at the end of the movie).
~ Cole, the Detective and her pregnancy were all hallucinations. No I don't think so, I think they were both real. She was killing people, so it makes sense that there would be a detective investigating. And if her husband was just her imagination, then why would she imagine having fights, not being able to be intimate & all sorts of difficulties with him? If she was dreaming of an idyllic life at the end of the movie, then why wouldn't she have been imagining a perfect marriage with a child on the way right from the beginning? At the end she gets pregnant and, having gotten rid of her demons by having 'exorcised' her mom by killing several blonds, and gotten away with it, she settles in to life with her husband & child on the way. Because she dyes her hair blond, the creepy issue is that she will likely take on her mom's abusive traits.
Also, when the detective says "that's one way to do your paperwork" (by setting it all on fire), the assumption there is that she has destroyed all the evidence, therefore getting away with the murders. I never thought once that the husband or the detective were hallucinations...I guess it's possible, but I don't see any real evidence to support it. It makes more sense that they were real.
(especially when they show her as a blonde former patient and then again as a blonde in the ending scene). I'm not sure why she was shown as a blond when she was "Jane Doe." That part was a bit confusing...all I can say is that she possibly would flip back & forth between being the innocent child personality, and the cruel, harsh, abusive mom-like personality. It seems all her life she had a "crazy streak" that would come & go with intensity.
Anyway, just my opinion. I may be wrong.
"If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff." ~ Karl Pilkington
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lisaplus1
12 years ago
Ah, really interesting points. I struggled with whether or not the husband and the detective were real...the only reason I came to that conclusion was...
* In the ending scene when the camera pulls back and you don't see the crib, the mobile or husband behind her - it also (to me) doesn't look like she is really pregnant in her reflection.
* I couldn't see a way of reconciling the conversation between the doctor and the detective (especially since the doctor was a figment of her imagination) other than to conclude that she imagined them both. But you're right, it could be that she just imagined the conversation (and not the detective himself). That does kind of explain why he mentions coming to see her and her "not wanting to talk" in one scene.
* It is possible for her to imagine an entire relationship/her issues with her husband and have him not exist. She imagined full conversations with the doctor, seeing (herself as) the child, a smashed windshield, and so on. So why not the husband? Plus, it would be a red herring for the viewer and also give her a reason to place the blame on the killings/fill in her time while she committed the murders.
* When the detective says "that's one way to deal with paperwork", I assumed he meant the hospital paperwork being set on fire and no longer needing to be sorted/stored. I didn't think he meant the destruction of evidence eliminating police paperwork. But I can now see how it could be interpreted either way! Very interesting!
Either way, I still liked the movie overall.
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redd4576
12 years ago
I didn't even notice the pull back with the reveal that there was no one in the background!! I thought she took off her robe to reveal the shirt because that was the same shirt Jane Doe had on when she stabbed Dr. Clement
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email-1101
12 years ago
The camera pull back doesnt really show us her belly or the whole room; the husband and crib could still be there, along with her belly~. The camera pulls back just a little, enough to out her a bit more fully in frame, thats all. Intersting idea, but not adequately supported by the scene.
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ladycat713
12 years ago
The clearest thing about this movie was that both her parents were scum. Her father was a pedophile who was sexually abusing her by forcing her to give him oral sex (she said about him making her mouth all sticky) and possibly vaginally. He wouldn't even let her alone on her birthday. Her mother knew all about it and when her daughter screamed for help she walked away and closed the door.
She shouldn't have been charged with manslaughter since she was protecting herself from sexual abuse but it's possible the mother hid any evidence (and insuring that the girl would not get proper treatment) of that since it would implicate her in his crime since she was an accessory by virtue of failing to protect . She then tries to kill herself and her daughter claiming it's to protect any future children (with the poor little girl actually apologizing for protecting herself or possibly having being impregnanted by her pervert father) when for the exact same thing to happen the girl would have to marry a pedophile and fail to protect her children as well.
The reason Rosalyn cracked the FINAL time and started killing was because she had finally found someone who loved her and it wasn't just sex and the loss of a child combined to give her one heck of a case of post partum psychosis .
It's also possible that when she killed the doctor she was under a similar psychosis (and it wasn't post partum because she was pregnant by someone she loved and who loved her) and her psychotic break was caused by her fear that she would be as much of a failure as a mother as her mother.
And there's another possibility of her earlier psychosis, I had a cousin who every time she got pregnant she tried to kill her husband. I think that's actually how they would know she was pregnant.
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cjcarter87
12 years ago
A couple of these posts were more helpful for me since I wasn't sure if it was her or not getting the hysterectomy and killing the doctor. I'm not sure if she was imagining that or if it happened. Or I was thinking it may have been the mother but that wouldn't make sense.
And with her pregnant at the end, I was confused if she did have a hysterectomy or not. I didn't really pay attention to the final scene other than her hair being blonde but it makes sense she was imagining being pregnant. With her being blonde it made me think more that she was the killer, and if she was going through a psychotic episode then it could've been easier for her to overpower people
I think the detective may have been fake because she probably would've been in trouble for setting the place on fire. I know it's a movie but that part didn't really add up.
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