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Amazing stunt work

posted 15 years ago by SandsofSamarkand
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I really enjoyed this film - it was a great combination of nonstop action and sheer goofiness. And I was really impressed by the stunt work, particularly during the chase scene at the end. With so many action films these days it is all robots and superheros, none of it feels like real human action, it's all just special effects. This is the first film I've watched in a long while that made me think - "wow, check out how spectacularly that guy fell off that horse (jeep, motorcycle, etc etc)!"

After this one, I'm definitely up for more Asian Westerns!

[–] Chronosus 15 years ago

I totally agree. And not just the stunt work, the direction in those action scenes is just brilliant. The scene on the market is the one that really impressed me. Its the thing that cgi is used in just the right (small) amounts, and not by itself. thats the way it should go. cgi should help special effects, not be special effects by itself. it will never look as convincing

[–] willbraham87 14 years ago

CGI is the cherry on top, no the entire Sunday.

[–] jonathancaltman 14 years ago

This movie is really indicative of the kind of barbaric filmmaking that America started, then quickly moved away from as fast as it could.

You say "amazing stunt work," I say, "Jesus *beep* christ how are they getting away with this?"

Don't get me wrong, I love the movie. But instead of that same old dreck about "CGI blows!" I think you should think about how short a jump it is from this film to straight up gladiatorial carnage. Those were real people, real horses, and distressingly realistic explosions rocking both. And the version you watched likely had additional animal cruelty cut from it for the foreign market.

You can talk about how great it is to see no seams in special effects, but when its earned from real broken bones for humans and shots to the head for wounded horses....

I dunno. Again, absolutely dug the flick. But terribly conflicted over the measures taken to produce it.

[–] rooprect 14 years ago

jonathancaltman is right. While animal cruelty is banned in most civilized countries, in Asia anything goes. These are not trained horses. When they fall, it's because some jerk pulled a trip wire sending 1000 lbs of horse onto its neck at 30mph. Many of these horses never get up again.

It's a shame that cgi and American animal cruelty laws have lulled audiences into a state of complacency. The truth is that Asian films are just a cut above snuff. If that's your bag, hey have fun. But most intelligent people oppose this kind of crap because it aint cool.

[–] Toby_Dammit 14 years ago

First of all let me get this out of the way

While animal cruelty is banned in most civilized countries, in Asia anything goes.

Just because they have different laws with animals in films does not make them uncivilized.

When they fall, it's because some jerk pulled a trip wire sending 1000 lbs of horse onto its neck at 30mph. Many of these horses never get up again.

How naive can you be? You didn't work on this film, you weren't on set while they were filming the scene so you truly have no say as to how these horses ended up. I could say that these horses are thriving and are having the best time of their lives right now and neither of our answers are closer to the truth. The simple fact is that we don't know how the horses are doing because we weren't there.

The truth is that Asian films are just a cut above snuff

one of the stupidest things I've heard in a long time.

But most intelligent people oppose this kind of crap because it aint cool.

1. Don't speak for the majority, speak for yourself

2. You are far from intelligent.

Now back on topic.

If such is the price to pay for great cinema, then I don't mind. In fact call me sadistic but I enjoyed the raw realness of watching those horses fall over. It added to the overall immersion, something I have noticed greatly lacking with American films these days. Americans play it to safe but of course they have to, with all the rules and restrictions they have. If there is danger on the screen then I want to feel as if I'm in danger. I want to see real body's hit the ground hard and horses tumble over, dangerous explosions so close to the actors that for a moment you stop and think..."holy *beep* this is awesome!"

You won't be saved.

[–] amsyco13 13 years ago

Hahahaha....Toby wins Dammit!
Great post.

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[–] Toby_Dammit 13 years ago

LOL good post bro, I lol'd pretty hard.

"I'll call you more than that, you cowardly little twerp"

I haven't heard anybody say "twerp" since grade school, thanks for the reminiscence bro.

"How about I decide to make a movie about a little twerp who gets raped by a 400lb maniac"

Can I direct?

"Spoken like a true uncompassionate coward. You really feel like you're "in danger" sitting in movie theatre? Pathetic"

u mad bro?

All jokes aside, if the animal "abuse" stopped you from enjoying this movie... you seriously need to grow up.

You won't be saved.

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[–] Toby_Dammit 13 years ago

"Son, if you mouthed off like that to my face, you'd be in a coma"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!

OMG! dude seriously you are sooo funny!!!

"I have to assume you have never had a pet"

I have three dogs.....which I torture. lol

"I don't even want to imagine what you did to that animal physical OR sexually"

woah woah now, sure your mother is a little big, but I wouldn't call her an animal!

ZING!!!!!!

You won't be saved.

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[–] Toby_Dammit 13 years ago

You're not very smart, are you?

You won't be saved.

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[–] Toby_Dammit 13 years ago

Hey.......U mad?

You won't be saved.

[–] sage216 12 years ago

I love animals and stuff, but I dont see the big deal.

[–] opitzc 12 years ago

You sound like one serious nutbar.

[–] opitzc 12 years ago

Correction: it's VERY cool

[–] Rena_Mahone 10 years ago

Unfortunately, the horse-tripping scenes were unsimulated.
I just hope the stunts were good enough to do not injure any horse... but I haven't found any detailed info about that. No site claims that horses were killed in this movie, but no site says the opposite either.
Everyone knows how little Asians care about animals.

Boycott movies that involve real animal violence! (and their directors too)

[–] shine-2 10 years ago

Don't you have any real problems?

[–] mam13143 9 years ago

Absolutely amazing stunt work and cinematography. Had no friggin idea what was going on most of the time. Had to watch it in stages. Didn't know the Koreans could make this kind of movie - well done!