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Catherine Caswell is loosely based on Mary Meyer


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Pinchot_Meyer

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Pinchot_Meyer

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Thanks interesting read.

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Thanks interesting read.

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Not so loosely. It's practically exact in almost every detail. They could easily have said, Based on a True Story.

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Mary Meyer was killed along the canal where they showed her walking a few times in the movie, not on the Exorcise steps.

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Def based on Mary Meyer and not so loosely, in my opinion.

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I am a JFK assassination researcher who frequents a Forum in which the case is discussed in detail. The story is absolutely based on the life and death of Mary Pinchot Meyer. The young neighbor who had the crush on her used to write on the Forum.

Her husband, Cord Meyer, FWIW, was identified by former CIA agent E. Howard Hunt in his "deathbed confession" as the organizer of the hit on JFK.

Her husband's boss, James Angleton, (Lucien in the movie) furthermore, was the CIA's chief of counter-intelligence. The character played by Matt Damon in The Good Shepherd is similarly based on Angleton. Some researchers have identified him as the head of a "false-defector program" whereby American soldiers would pretend to turn "commie" and move to Russia, in hopes of gaining access to Russian secrets. Some have concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald was part of this program, and that he remained one of Angleton's agents until his death.

It is also interesting to note that former Washington Post Editor Ben Bradlee was Mary's brother-in-law, and that after her death--supposedly by a mugger, though no one was ever convicted of the crime--he and his wife Toni were called up by one of Mary's friends and told about Mary's diary. They were told it included details of her affair with JFK. They then raced to her art studio in order to find her diary before it fell into the hands of persons unknown. When they got there, however, they found Angleton (her ex-husband's boss) at the studio looking for the diary. They found the diary, and Bradlee claimed he let Angleton take the diary and burn it.

If I recall, the actual whereabouts of the diary have never been revealed. Angleton never wrote a book on his career, and only told bits and pieces of what he knew to interviewers. He was forced from the CIA after it became clear he'd been spying on Americans on American soil, in defiance of the CIA's charter. Ironically, after years of study, a report was written claiming Angleton's paranoia had destroyed so many careers and had paralyzed the CIA to such an extent that he couldn't have done more damage if he'd been a KGB spy. In time, he returned the favor by telling those who'd listen that the CIA chief who'd forced him out, William Colby, was quite possibly a KGB mole. William F. Buckley, himself a former CIA operative, and godfather to E. Howard Hunt's children, wrote about Angleton in his novel Spytime.

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I just saw a TV show on PBS earlier this week chronicling the history of Washington DC in the 1960s. They discussed JFK in the start of the program (since he became president in 1961) and after his assassination, there was a brief mention about Mary Pinchot Meyer and her alleged affair with the president. She was found dead on a footpath near the C&O Canal and it was assumed that a day worker had killed her. Pat Buchanan (the former Republican presidential candidate) said that he had a meeting with one of the CIA operatives (I don't recall if it was Angleton) concerning the murder and when he brought up the diary question to inquire if it was found, the operative got up and left.

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Pat,

Thanks for this very detailed post. I knew that the film was based on the last days of Mary Pinchot Meyer, having become familiar with her murder case after reading Ben Bradlee's autobiography in the '90s. I had no idea, however, that the role of teenage neighbor Adam was based on a real person. Do you know what became of him?

Also, I read that Mary Meyer had two surviving sons with Cord Meyer. Any idea what became of them? It sounds like Cord Meyer's last years were filled with bitterness and illness. In fact, I read in a magazine that in one of the last interviews he granted before his death, when asked who he thought killed his former wife, he hissed "The same sons of bitches who killed Jack Kennedy."

Thanks again.

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Yeah, it seems the role of Cord Meyer in everything still appears up for serious debate.

It's bizarre that this film portrayed him as being against the assassination of his wife. I always had the impression that he had supported her death, as he held her responsible for the death of their child.

Of course, his muttered last words granted before his death suggested otherwise. But it's also at odds with E Howard Hunt's confession that Meyer was in fact the coordinator of the JFK hit squad.

The Meyer in the movie, supported by his final words on the subject you quoted, appear to support his knowledge of who had been behind both murders but that he had not been directly involved.

E Howard Hunt suggests otherwise.

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Alwood wrote: "Also, I read that Mary Meyer had two surviving sons with Cord Meyer. Any idea what became of them?"
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On page 285 of her 1998 book, "A Very Private Woman," Nina Burleigh states: "...sons Quentin and Mark went to Yale, and gradually both turned toward religion. Mark became a missionary for the Seventh-Day Adventist Church in China, before returning to the Washington area, where he reportedly translates Chinese for the government. Quentin also lives in Washington. Neither has ever married."

After reading that book, I tried a few different Google searches in an attempt to find out more about Mary's boys, but was unsuccessful. There are better tools for finding people, so maybe someone here with more online search experience can delve deeper into their history and current locations.

Quentin (b.1946) would be 65 this year, and Mark (b.1950) would be 61, and considering their wealthy background, could both be retired.

It would be interesting to know more about them and if they have ever attempted to discover more about their Mother's mysterious death.

BTW, Nina Burleigh's book takes a detailed look at Raymond Crump, Jr., who was arrested, but later acquitted, of murdering Mary Meyer. Whether it was Crump or some CIA assassin as many suspect, is no clearer now than when it happened in 1964.

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It wasn't that Angleton was spying on Americans on American soil for foreign governments, but was rather driven by his unrelenting paranoia that Americans on American soil were conspiring against him.

My understanding is that Angleton had completely lost his mind, simply blown a vital fuse after he had lived in adamant denial of the fact that his best friend in the business, Kim Philby, was a Russian spy that had thoroughly fleeced Angleton for vital intelligence during their drinking binges that cost the CIA numerous valuable human intelligence assets in the cold war while he was head of the CIA. Even when Philby defected to Russia and the Soviets championed him as a trophy to the world Angleton remained in denial.

The problem was that when he finally came around, he had become increasingly instable. The rest of his life was an exercise in making amends for his gullibility as he was never able to trust anyone again. So of course he was convinced Colby was a mole. To him, if Philby could be, then so could anyone else.

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Oh! You have NO IDEA how glad I am you put this link up.

I've watched this movie plenty of times and every time I watched it, I thought if I watched it again I might catch something I didn't catch before and finally understand it but I still was hitting a brick wall.
Did not know at all about this Mary Meyer lady. Truthfully I never had any interest in knowing about JFK's rendezvous, but now from what I read, her death reminds me of Dorothy Kilgallen from What's My Line?" death. I hate these open holes that's connected to JFK's Presidency and death.

Now that I know the background, I want to watch it again. Thanks for the link! :)

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Holy *beep* and you never bothered to check to see whether she was still alive?!?
If you were a journalist in Washington, I'm not sure how your curiosity could not have moved you to follow up on this "coincidence".

Or maybe you had but you're just not letting onto so much here?

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"The trail of bodies in the 60s around this whole debacle was fairly sobering."

The amount of JFK stuff that people hear/read then repeat without checking out is even more sobering.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/deaths.htm

Things get really mysterious and suspicious if you're not looking for truth.

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Another source of information on who Mary Meyer/Catherine Caswell was.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3520

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For anyone interested there's a book about Mary Meyer. The author knew her personally and was friends with her son. Truly fascinating and beautifully, intricately written. It's titled "Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision for World Peace". The author is Peter Janney.



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I just read Peter Janney's "Mary's Mosaic" over the past month and found it riveting. It took me back to an era I just adore and would've loved to have lived in. I believe he's coming out with a 3rd edition later in the year. It's awful that Mary Pinchot Meyer's death has remained unsolved to this day makes me wonder why the TV show, "Unsolved Mysteries," never covered it as it would've made a perfect murder case for the show. Personally, however, I do believe it was a CIA hit over what she knew and had written down in her diary.

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