These Soldiers are guilty of following orders and that's it.

the media nor the pentagon will ever allow the truth to be told, and most critics have their minds made up to not want to hear it anyway.

Some salient points:

the soldiers were following policy laid out similar to that proposed for Afghanistan called COPPER GREEN. Seymour Hersh knew that from day one, google his name and that term.

this policy sought to use Iraqi males condemnation of homosexuality to get them to stop raping boys in the prison yards and starting riots by throwing rocks at guards. Western justice deals with these things by adding time to their sentance, we were trying desperately to reduce the prison populations. Thus the threat of showing photos of the men in staged photos depicting humiliation according to their culture was hatched.

It was quite frankly a brilliant plan, and in every photo that SUGGESTS abuse, or shows an Iraqi with magic marker writing stating "I am a rapist" on his leg (which really proves every word of what I am telling you now) the fact is that man did not actually get abused, and the purpose of the photo even existing was not an acccidental photo of us stupidly recording a real crime- but so we would not have to resort to abusing that man to gain his compliance. USE YOUR DAMN HEADS. Why would we so thoroughly document real crimes of abuse in photos?

They (the soldiers) were having fun. You're damned right they were, most of these detainees were criminals and whackos that Saddam let out onto the streets as Iraq fell. They were animals, the guards had seen enough of the rapes of 15 years olds, being pelted by rocks, having feces thrown at them, (see "sh*tboy!")that they barely saw them as human. These detainees had endured all the abuse Saddam's culture could do to a man, no way we could match, let alone top that.

Seymour Hersh knows this as he's about to file his story but has to check it with the Pentagon first. Hersh is known as a crack investigative journalist who gets the underlying story dead on right then embellishes it with fabricated details that can't be verified nor disproved. He puts a spin on it portraying Rumsfeld not as a genius whose plan spares us from beating the crap out of thousands of insane prisoners, and yes it came straight from the top- but as a Darth Vader type who micromanaged prison guards into going past his orders.

The Pentagon sees this, and denies EVERYTHING to not only spare Rumsfeld from ridiculous scrutiny, but to not have to destroy our entire middle east foreign policy by admitting to the entire Arab Muslim region that we played off their own stupid cultural fallacies and patronized them to not have to stoop to their level of brutality.

Faced with complete Pentagon denial of his story, Hersh is miffed and modifies it, wrapping all the photos depicting SUGGESTED abuse, with the ACTUAL CRIMES of abuse perpetrated by CIA contractors, NOT by rank and file soldiers, almost NONE of which were photographed, into one big convoluted mess called ABU GRAIB PRISON ABUSE and has Lt. Tagliabue's report to selectively substantiate it. Tagliabue is a Filipino citizen with an officer's commission in the US army, a situation which leaves him disrespected by American Officer colleagues and bitter toward the Army. His report, by itself, seeks to discredit the whole institution of the Army.

All of this I am telling you seems fantastic as you will not see it anywhere else, this movie SOP is the first that even hints of these things yet it still tells it in a light seeking to crucify those at the bottom. I spent four years in the military, I saw firsthand the peculiar tragedy of the military tradition called "sh*t rolls downhill, get out of its way" when the media seeks answers now to a controversy. In my case I watched the witch hunts of operation zero tolerance after the brass tried to deflect blame for a deadly disaster on the USS Nimitz not on the breakdown of shipboard command in letting sick pilots fly on pocketfuls of sudafed without seeing flight surgeons first, but on the men on the deck uninvolved in the aircraft's operation but having marijuana traces in their system from a port call a week earlier. I can't prove Lynndie was screwed for following orders but can prove my personal experince with military lies that none of you have any clue about:

the gov't still telling the lie:

The tripwire was an explosion aboard the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz on May
26, 1981. The ship suffered 14 people dead, 48 injured and $150 million in
property losses, including seven aircraft destroyed and 11 damaged. DOD
adopted its "zero tolerance" drug policy in 1982 after investigators
indicated Nimitz crewmen's drug use possibly contributed to the disaster.

"Drug users are more prone to have accidents, to use poor judgment and more
likely to injure themselves and others ... the disaster aboard the Nimitz is
a grim reminder of this fact," Salazar said.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg53377.html

That was no "explosion", it was an EA-6B Prowler whose pilot was high on antihistimines flying to get extra pay when he should have been grounded with the flu- passed out on final approach, overshot the wires and veered starboard into the bow taking out a row of parked aircraft and the enlisted men maintaining them, who had no possible influence on that tragedy whatsoever. This was my job at the time, a greenshirt on the flight deck and they hit us hard, encouraging snitching, even ridding your organization of sailors who parted their hair in the middle or wore a earring. Everyone who has to pee in a cup today pays the price for military brass to cover their ass and send it down to the lowest ranking personnel possible, because we have the least to lose.

This is what happened to Lynndie. Poor girl was following orders to the T, witness she told the press the exact story I am telling you now- or what her part would be in it- for the exactly 24 hours she was on the loose until the Army threw her down a hole which they told her would be bottomless if she didn't shut her mouth now.

Some believe you get to the bottom of a story over time by deep analysis and investigation. That's BS, IMO, it only allows those participants with agendas to work on their lies and mold the story to their liking. I believe the first 24 hours sees the bare truth and it goes downhill from there.

Doubting my analysis leaves one believing a Private- a dumb one from the land of hillbillies at that- dictated policy and actions in that organization while the CO, Jane Karpinski, was out to lunch and knew nothing.

However I expect a line of skeptics to tell me I'm crazy and the version the military and media sold them, is factual.

Haha. Who's crazy?





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