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Insultingly dumb movie


Four guys, four girls, one mountain-climber-turned-psychopath who for some reason is hell-bent on "proving" a person in danger will kill their friends to save themselves, even though his situation and their situations are not even remotely similar.

These people are supposed to be the best of friends, a tight unit comprised of college roommates, boyfriends, girlfriends, and the odd girl out -- the stepsister. Why would these people turn on each other?

We're not talking about a split-second decision here while a fraying rope is about to snap -- we're talking about people who have at least six hours to sit there and ponder the possibility of killing each other, or come up with a plan to overwhelm the one guy who wants them to turn on each other.

It's one thing to have characters die in brutal ways for the sake of a horror movie, it's another thing for characters to do spectacularly stupid things to make it easy for the killer to succeed.

This is not rocket science:

1) Get everyone into a bathroom with no windows, sweep it for cameras, then turn on the shower and sink at full blast so the killer cannot overhear anything, even if he's got the room bugged. (Clearly he had at least the living room and other common areas bugged.)

2) Find out who's being emotional or trying to be the hero, smack them in the face, and tell them they have no option other than to shut up, listen, and follow instructions.

3) Punch fatty in the face as many times as it takes to get him to shut up. Knock him out if need be. The point is, he needs to be stopped and cannot be relied on, and his panic is causing discord and harming the rest of the group. He has to be stopped or taken out of the equation.

4) Figure out a way to flush out the killer. This is NOT difficult at all. Send someone toward the van and/or motorcycle, force the killer to reveal his position by taking warning shots, and flank him. You have a gun. Give it to the person who is going to flank him. You already know the killer will take warning shots first, as demonstrated earlier.

5) Subdue the killer. Shoot him if you have to. Do whatever you have to do to extract information about traps, disabled vehicles, etc. Drag him to his own bear trap and offer to introduce him to his friend if necessary until he provides all the information.

6) Tie up the killer, put him in the back of the van, and drive to the nearest police station.

End of.

Again, it's one thing to pen a solid horror movie, and it's another thing to write a script that requires characters to shut down their brains because you couldn't think of a better way for the killer to operate.

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The killer had everything planned out for all circumstances. I doubt he would be dumb enough to allow himself to be flanked i.e., revealing where he actually was located.

*I know that I am stupid but when I look around me I feel a lot better.*

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How did the killer have everything planned out for all circumstances? The movie was a poorly written mess that got worse as it went on. The movie relied on dumb people doing dumb things just like in many other horror films. He revealed his location on various occasions.

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How did the killer have everything planned out for all circumstances?

Did you watch the movie? If so, you would know the answer to this.

The movie was a poorly written mess that got worse as it went on.

I thought it was decently written. Nothing great, but it was an entertaining
and watchable movie IMO.

The movie relied on dumb people doing dumb things just like in many other horror films

I agree they did dumb things sometimes, but what would you expect of college kids basically being ambushed by an unknown or unseen killer. They panicked, and when you panic you do dumb things.

He revealed his location on various occasions.

Once again I ask did you actually see this movie? As far as I know he never actually revealed his location. Not until the very end was he actually shown. Even if his location was known he was too clever for the panicky and dumb college students.
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Did you watch the movie? If so, you would know the answer to this.


I obviously watched the movie, and there's no way you could ascertain that he had everything planned out. The group barely tried to do anything and only really tried the two most obvious ways of escaping (checking the boat and driving the van on the path out).

I thought it was decently written. Nothing great, but it was an entertaining
and watchable movie IMO.


No, it relied on a bunch of convenient things, people doing plenty of stupid things, contrived circumstances, cliches, and other things that make up poor writing. It was messy.

Once again I ask did you actually see this movie? As far as I know he never actually revealed his location. Not until the very end was he actually shown. Even if his location was known he was too clever for the panicky and dumb college students.


How about - did you actually see the movie? Did you actually pay attention? He gave away his position multiple times. Where was he shown to be all that clever? Why did he bother putting a trap where the axe was? That was counterproductive to his intent. He basically killed that guy instead of allowing him a chance to do what he wanted... He gave 2 of the people guns FFS. Near the beginning he gave a girl a gun which kind of took me out of the movie fairly early.

His plan took place out in a secluded location. In case you didn't know, it gets dark at night, especially when you're out in a secluded location surrounded by woods. And, he let those dopes run around outside freely. He let those 2 guys get to the docks unimpeded. It's hard to see people in the dark from any kind of distance, and if anyone gets to the woods, then they might as well be invisible. You can't see sh!t. Ever been outside late at night?

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So as not to get into a back and forth debate of this movie, suffice it to say, when watching a movie (any movie) it is best to suspend your disbelief. You'll enjoy the movie much better. Think about it. How many movies, especially horror movies stay true to reality? Most movies have an element of unbelievability.

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Everyone is familiar with suspension of disbelief, but a movie needs worthwhile things for it to work, but this movie fails in too many places.

Not entertaining
Bad acting/overacting
Terrible characters
Too many contrivances
Too many dumb things happening
The same ol' things that have been done a million times in other horror movies, (if you're going to do things that have been done countless times, then at least do them well or do something interesting/entertaining with them)
Stupid things that take you out of the movie and ruin any chance at overlooking things with said suspension of disbelief
Sh!t dialogue
I'll say it again, there's too many things that take you out of the movie

Pretty much the only good thing about it was the setting. The twist could have been good if done well, but they just made a sh!tty movie around what could have been a good idea. I'd enjoy the movie much better if it didn't suck and was actually entertaining. I heard someone say something like, 'This is what Saw would be like if it was written by an 8 year old', and I agree.

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I have a suggestion you should heed, and I'm serious about this. Maybe your movie watching niche is documentaries. For the most part they have no actors that will upset you. Everything is real. Dumb things won't be happening. Nothing is contrived. It sounds perfect for you. I hope you'll take my advice to heart.

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I should stick to documentaries because I dislike a sh!tty horror movie you happen to like? Are you this brand new to movies, critique, and logic? You should probably avoid giving advice.

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This is my favourite ever response on imdb. I need to quote your in case you didn't know it gets dark at night line, ubt I doubt i'll encounter anyone with less brain cells than the guy you're responding to.

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Coz lifes too short to listen to Madlib

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it's also extremely forgettable. i ust watched it today and forgot i had watced it until more than half way through. 







i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

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