Why Camilla is in this movie? She is not Latin/Latina! She is an American of Brazilian origin (mother is Brazilian). Two cultures that have nothing to do with Latin culture (or Hispanic, if you like).
Unfortunately, Camilla, who seemed to have a promising career, lately only chooses mistaken roles.
She must urgently change her agent and scape from that stereotyped "Latinization" .
That will ruin her (future) career.
They chose her because she's a name and she "looks" Latina, to who, I don't know. I too find it completely offensive. But, that's Hollywood. Next, Zack Efron will be starring in a movie as Nelson Mandela if Mr. Gracia has anything to do with it.
"They shoot horses, don't they?" RIP Sydney Pollack
Portuguese/Brazilian culture is just as "Latin" as Spanish/Hispanic culture.
sharePeople from Brazil are latins too. Not only mexicans are consider latins.
shareObviously there are lots of countries in Latin America, Brazil being one of them. Point being is that, even Brazilians would not consider themselves "Latino" like most people from South America would or, most Spanish speakers would (minus the Spanish which are European).
"They shoot horses, don't they?" RIP Sydney Pollack
I have a Romanian coworker who very much considers himself "Latin."
In his words, "We more Latin than they! Rome conquered Romania, Spain conquered Mexico!"
The movie itself was not very good. I was bored out of my mind. I wasted only $2 on it at a second run theatre.
I was expecting it to be a lot funnier. I was expecting spoiled brat rich girls to get their comeuppance but didn't see it. Maybe it came before the end of the movie?
Americans and Latins know anything about Brazil. And when they "know", know mistakenly, confusing us with what we never were: Latins (or Hispanics).
Only now, in the 21st century, the press in English, for example, "discovered" that Brazil has never in its history spoke Spanish.
Ethnically, Belle is American-Brazilian (American father / Brazilian mother). She is not Latina. She has influenced by American culture and Brazilian culture.
The culture of Brazil is so different from the culture of Latin countries, like India's culture is different from the culture of China.
Visually, the Brazilians are very different from Mexicans, Argentines, Chileans, Bolivians, etc.. It is another people, ethnically, culturally and of course, linguistically. Neither the food of the day-to-day of the Brazilians is similar to the Latin's food.
It's not because Portuguese is a language derived from Latin that Brazil is "atin" - this is simpleton. Nobody calls Portugueses, Angolans, Frenchs as "latins" although they speak a Latin language...
Latin is associated to be Hispanic, speaking Spanih and have a hispanic culture.
Brazil never was or had that thing. We are Lusophones, not Latins. Brazilian have its own culture and people. It's a region itself: the Portuguese America.
gilosampaio is right: Belle really went the wrong way. She, an American from Brazilian ancestry will become a caricature of Latin. Regrettable. Waste of talent.
No. Brazilians are indeed Latinos. So what sets you apart from other Latin countries? Culturally? I tend to dispute that. I'm part Colombian, part Spanish.
You don't like it? Take it up with various academic circles who consider Brazil geographically part of Latin America.
Your post is silly ethnocentric rubbish.
and your last line is racist, xenophobic crap. So being Latin is somehow being inferior? She took up a role and did a good job... how is that a waste of talent?
Also addressing the original poster... how can Wilmer Valdarrama be in this film? He's part Venezuelan, part Colombian.
Every country in Latin America has a very different culture then each other... you can't compare Mexico and El Salvador... or Mexico and Venezuela for that matter!
Next time don't post such ignorance. Latin America refers to geography purely. Like it or not.
She is not "ethnically" Iberian because this term is related to Iberian Peninsula (Portugal + Spain) and the Brazilians have not Spanish ancestry, only Portuguese one. Over 90% of Brazilians are of Portuguese descent, without any link with Spain. Here in Brazil there was never a Spanish colonization, only Portuguese. There was a small French and Dutch invasions in Brazil's Northeast, which left some descendants and, of course, a huge "importation" of slaves from Africa.
Spain colonized the Hispanic America (the actual Latin America). The Spaniards left descendants there, not in Brazil.
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What a bunch of hypocrites and camouflaged racists we see here! If Camilla was an American actress of Brazilian origin, black or mulata!, no one of these Latins - I assume they are largely Latins - would not come here "to fight over her." They try to steal her cultural identity because she is white, with light eyes.
Unfortunately what characterizes many of Latins is a extreme complex and jealousy.
Well, you must know that Brazil is the most racially mixed country in the world. Almost all of us Brazilians have indian and black DNA (besides the Portuguese one). And on the contrary of Mexicans, Argentines, Chileans, and other Hispanics, who are "proud" of not having blacks (which is true), we Brazilians are proud of being half black, half bndian and half Portuguese. This is what made us and this is what we are. And we always were Brazilians, we never were Latins, which is a term related to being Hispanic.
According to the CIA world fact book:
White - 53.7%
Mulatto (mixed black and white) - 38.5%
Black - 6.2%
Other (Japanese, Arab, etc) - 0.9%
ohh shut up. Im caribbean. this is the place where european colonization started in the Americas and we are black, mulato, mixed and white. stop the ignorance. and we are proud to be hispanics as well caribbeans(dominicans, cubans and portoricans). Black population isnt only in Brazil.
Brazil is part of latin America but not part of hispanic culture. Smart people knows that, the rest wouldnt mind and frankly dont lose time on them either.
Zoe Saldana is from black/mulato race and hispanic/caribbean culture.
You're committing mental suicide and enjoying your ignorance.
Maybe you're classist or racist or just don't know what you're talking about, I'd choose the latter.
Sounds like you think to speak Spanish is being a Latino, but no.
First of all, a Latin country is considered any country which has
a language derivate from Latin and has a higher influence and heritage of Latin culture
and Catholic religion transmitted by Roman Empire. Besides Latino America,
are considered Latin Countries in Europe: Portugal, Spain, France, Italia and finally Romania.
Even Haiti, having a black majority, is it, Haiti was colonized
by Spain first and France later, leaving the culture. But hey,
Latino is not a race, it's a Ethnic group tied by cultural traditions.
When Spain and Portugal colonized America, they left a predominantly
Latin culture in here, putting in background Native American cultures and some cases died out.
Don't you know? Exist the Portuñol, which is a mix of Portuguese and Spanish languages
which is spoken in Brazilian borders. By the way, it's easily to understand
a lot of Portuguese cuz it has many similarities with Spanish.
Every country in Latino America has their own meals, food and recipes.
influenced by different things in their national histories,
not all Latin Countries regularly eat Tacos, that's a Mexican thing.
Brazilian food is very different cuz it has influence of culture brought by slaves.
"Los Carnavales" are differently celebrated in every city and country in Latino America,
you can't say are identical the activities they do in this holiday in Argentina, Bolivia and Brazil
they are neighbor countries and it varies.
The only big similarity we share down here are religion, Catholic traditions
and holidays, but even in these things, every country celebrate these days in their own way.
Funny, time ago I was reading 2 guys splitting themselves on Youtube, a Mexican was supporting
Uruguay by Representing Latinos in World Cup but a Uruguayan replied
and told him "you're not of our group" referring to South America.
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edson-br: "Ethnically, Belle is American-Brazilian (American father / Brazilian mother). She is not Latina. She has influenced by American culture and Brazilian culture."
American isn't an ethnicity. It's a nationality.
wow YOU and many of the people responding to this post are ignorant as all hell. Of course Brazilian culture is latin. What in the world does Latin America refer to? How can any country or ethnicity be considered Latin if it were not for Latin Europe. Another stupid example of a term being changed in the United States for political reasons. Latin means " of or related to Rome." Do they not speak Portuguese in Brazil? Is Portuguese not the modern form of Vulgar Latin spoken in that part of the Iberian Penninsula that came to be known of as Portugual? Idiots all of you. The French or Latin. Italians are especially Latins. Romanians are Latins. Spaniards are Latins. Just because ignorant people in the US think that Latins/Latinos means only Spanish speaking does not mean it's correct.
shareHere are some comments from The Economist's Brazilian readers who end up with this farce saying Brazil is in "Latin America" and the hypocrisy of Latins being "little brothers (sic)" of Brazilians. on the contrary, what we see here is a great arrogance and atrocious envy .
PART 1
André Filho wrote:
Mar 23rd 2011 7:09 GMT
THE LATINOS' CULTURAL BULLYING ON BRAZILIANS.
Jesus! The Latinos here are making a cultural bullying over Brazilians. They want to nullify our brasilidade, trying to impose their Latin identity.
Their tremendous envy and resentment we see here is appalling! They want to nullify Brazil and the Brazilians with the arrogant and small talk of "we latinos ".
They are proud of their culture but they want to prohibit that Brazilians are proud of our own culture.
Brazil has to be vey careful. Some (many, apparently) Latinos are akin to obliterate the Brazilians in the world.
André Filho.
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André Filho wrote:
Mar 20th 2011 12:40 GMT
BRAZIL IS NOT LATIN AMERICA OR "LATINO/LATIN". IT IS ONLY BRAZILIAN AND PART OF SOUTH AMERICA.
Brazil is not "Latin" or "Latin America", so President Obama is not making "a trip through Latin America."
He is tripping by some countries in the American continent (Or traveling through South America and Central America)
Brazil is physically in South America and, to a greater extent, on the American continent as a whole.
But Brazil actually never was Latin America since the term "Latin" is absolutely linked to the Hispanic world and Spanish language.
We have nothing to do with the Hispanic world whose culture, history, ethnicity and language are so different to Portuguese language and Brazilian people and culture, as well as China and India are different although neighboring countries.
Please, respect the Brazilian people. Don't obliterate Brazil with these stereotypes of "Latin" and "Latin America".
Doing this is a kind of fascism and discrimination: an attempt to deny a individuality to Brazil (which has the same size as the United States and huge and peculiar people.)
On this trip to Brazil President Obama does a great effort to separate Brazil from that ignorant and stereotyped confusion that United States have always done between Brazil and Spanish/Latin America.
He himself has pointed out that the treatment to Brazil will now be made to the size/importance of the other BRIC countries like China and India.
He is now realizing that Brazil is equivalent, alone, to a region apart in America: the Portuguese America.
Here are some comments from The Economist's Brazilian readers who end up with this farce saying Brazil is in "Latin America" and the hypocrisy of Latins being "little brothers (sic)" of Brazilians. on the contrary, what we see here is a great arrogance and atrocious envy .
PART 2
Jean7815 wrote:
Mar 22nd 2011 10:12 GMT
Obama was a really a show of sympathy on his 2-day visit to Brazil. If the american president had the same performance in other countries he visits, as he had in Brazil, it would eliminate much of the gratuitous anti-Americanism that the U.S. faces today. But the greatest merit of the visit of Obama in the terra brasilis was that for the first time an U.S. government delegation NOT FAKED BRAZIL AS A LATIN/HISPANIC. Hallelujah!!!
For the first time they saw Brazil as he actually is, not submitting Brazil to that Latin American farce like they packaging it. What this that gave a hint that things have evolved between the two most populous nations of America.
Of course the rest was diplomatic blah-blah-blah: many intentions and little concrete things indeed. But Brazil is not a little poor waiting for the U.S. money. It would even shamefull to be that way for a continental and industrialized country like Brazil.
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Eduardo Silva wrote:
Mar 21st 2011 9:52 GMT
== Obama has not done a "trip by Latin America" =
Obama does a trip by America. Brazil is not part of Latin America because we are not Latins (=Hispanics). The continent does not end at the border of Mexico / USA. Indeed this is perhaps the largest territorial extension in America.
This is so obvious that in Chile he will discourse to Latin America. While in Brazil he made already a speech TO BRAZIL. In Chile he will make a speech to Latin America (and to Latins), not to Brazil.
The U.S. began to see the REAL Brazil, not the Brazil as a caricature of Latin, which British/English press always distorted the Brazilians.
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Eduardo Silva wrote:
Mar 21st 2011 10:25 GMT
By the way, Obama gave a SHOW in Brazil. It was a show of sympathy and courtesy. He spoke many words in Portuguese, treated Brazil as the continental country that it actually is - and not as a little island in the Atlantic. He strove to demonstrate that knew the reality of Brazil.
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Eduardo Silva wrote:
Mar 25th 2011 12:08 GMT
André Filho is right.
Unfortunately, a characteristic not uncommon in some Brazilians is the pusillanimity.
These Brazilians, with a vocation to be doormat of Latino, believe that Brazil has to, somehow, adapt itself to the Spanish America.
The blah blah blah of these Brazilians are always the same. It's easily identifiable but very different from reality.:
• They pretend that the Latinos are "relatives" of the Brazilians, although both have ethnically distinct backgrounds - there are more descendants of Latins in US today than ever occurred in Brazil. Brazil has more genetic ties with Africa than with any of their Hispanic neighbors in South America (although some of them pretend that some small mixing in the extreme border can be designed for all Brazil).
• They try to pack the arguments with a lyrical talk, like "let us unite", "we are brothers", etc. Something communistoid.
• Cowardly, they are scared to death of the remotest possibility of displeasing the Latins, as if it was something terrible. They assume for themselves the same role of harassment that some of Spanish America do constantly over Brazil.
The pusillanimity of these people is so big that whenever it's obvious the arrogance or envy of any Latino in relation to Brazil, as often happens, for example, from Argentina, they play "blame" on the soccer rivalry. Pathetic.
Actually the soccer is not responsible for that rivalry. It is the opposite . There is rivalry in soccer because of the latent rivalry from part of Latin America over Brazil.
For Brazil to be cordial, friendly or partner with Latin America, it cannot submit to this harassment that some Latinos do over Brazil. Rather, it is seeing the reality as it that Brazil will put things in a way that is best for everyone. Without hipocrisy.
What is "latin food"? I live in Peru and spent a few months in Brazil, I'd say the Peruvian food is definitely not closer to e.g. Mexican than the Brazilian food. Spanish speaking South American countries can't easily be put under one umbrella term like that.
shareShe looks the part and that's the important thing.
shareShe's an actress. They pretend to be something they're not.
Also... I can kill you with my brain
The film looks bad and I recently learned that the film wasn't screened for critics which is never a good sign.
James Franco(127 Hours)/Natalie Portman(Black Swan)/Christian Bale(The Fighter)/Melissa Leo(The Fighter)
Well...if the film wasn't screened for critics...then it because it's not a movie for critics.
It's just to have a good time in the theater I guess. I personally ignore critics reviews and make my own mind up...if the trailer is interesting, I'll see it.
Why Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's list? He's not German! How outrageous!
sharelol can't stop laughing.
u kno, mr. smart ass... italian, french, spanish, portuguese and hispanic people, and yeah, even brazilians, are LATINO.
Portuguese, spanish, italian and french come from LATIN, actually, people reading books know those are Romance Languages.
BEING A LATINO DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH LOOKS. I THINK A POWERFUL AND BITCHY COUNTRY HAS MADE THE WHOLE WORLD THINK LIKE THAT!!. CHANGE YOUR BRAINS!!! LITTLE MINDED & RACIST PEOPLE!
A MEXICAN IS AS LATINO AS A BRAZILIAN. for the Lord's sake!, just read!! ! :)
Brazilians are South Americans and very much a part of the Latino community (even though they speak Portuguese) Being from South America, I can tell you that Sudamerica considers them... parte de la familia. Every year we play "futbol" with Brazil. Every year we have friends visit from their beautiful country. Every year, we drink and eat together. In addition, Camilla speaks Spanish and adores the Latino culture.
Don't worry about her career. She has it together and is a great actress. This role was perfect for her and she was... spot on.
Actually, Brazilians are Latinos BECAUSE they speak Portuguese. Being Latino doesn't mean you speak Spanish. Being Latino means that your language derives from Latin.
EDIT: This was meant to be a reply to Supergrandefilms-1's post. Don't know why is all the way down here.
Anyways, the movie sucked. Makeup sucked, Camilla's character and the lawyer dude's relationship sucked, the other sister looked just like Lindsey Lohan on crack, etc, etc.
They didn't spend time developing the relationship of the sisters with their significant others, which is, you know...the point of the movie.