Are you seriously trying to say that the majority of welsh people voted for Rhydian, the majority of Scottish for Leon and that England voted fairly on who they thought should win.
Right then, a few questione for you.
1, If the Welsh and Scottish are so pathetic (or patriotic if you want to call it that). That they would vote for someone based on geography. Then why, pray tell are England any different. Why are you saying they voted fairly? What is your basis for saying this and in what way would your reasoning for the scottish and Welsh having done this not apply to the English?
Because the only reason I can see for you saying that England voted fairly. Is because you've HAD to say that as a reason why SD didn't win the show. Because otherwise, if we're going by your logic that voting was based on geography, they really should have. The problem is though, like I've pointed out above. Is that this reasoning is a load of nonsense. If Scotland and Wales acted in this way. Then you will have to offer up a better excuse than
"because England isn't very patriotic. The Scottish voted for Leon, the Welsh for Rhydian and the English, well we're not so like that coz otherwise quite clearly SD would have won, as we have far more people"
As to why England didn't do the exact same thing. And as proof that Scotland and Wales did. Reading your post it appears that the only evidence you have that the Scots and Welsh voted for rhydian and Leon because of geography. Is the fact they got more votes than SD. Now, I think that given the fact Rhydian and Leon can actually sing, whereas SD can't. Means that you have absolutely no reason to believe they weren't voted 1st and 2nd purely due to the fact they were the better singers. In otherwords the only thing that APPEARS to back up up what you're saying. Is the fact they got more votes. But due to them being the better singers, them getting more votes is actually not proof/back up of a claim of geographical voting at all.
Also, you've completely contradicted yourself because you claim that Leon won because of scotland being twice as big as Wales. And that SD only got 1/3 of the English votes along with Rhydian and Leon. And then you go on to say that even if SD had been amazing they would have had "no chance" and neither would have Rhydian.
Now, for a start
1, If Rhydian and SD were amazing they would have gotten a hell of alot more than just 1/3 of the English vote. So given just as Scotland is bigger than Wales, England also has 10x the population of Scotland. So if SD or Rhydian had been amazing they would have won the majority of English votes. So compare the majority of votes that come from a population of 5 million (scotland) to the majority of a population of 50 million (England). And you're telling me that they would have had no chance. I despair of some people's logic sometimes, I really do. And to really make my point. Which is in reply to your claims that the show was won on geography and the winner didn't deserve it. Well based on what I have just pointed out. If there was somebody better and England were voting fairly according to you.
Then can you please explain to me why this person who deserved to win DIDN'T win the majority of English votes. I mean if the voting in England was fair and they voted for whoever they thought was the best. Then why if there WAS someone so much better than Leon. WHY didn't England vote accordingly?
I mean the fact is we know they didn't, because due to England's population. If they HAD done then this person you speak of would have won. Whereas you "claim" they didn't and the outcome was unfair.
Is it not glaringly obvious how much you have contradicted yourself. I mean
"we have far more people"
Seriously, YOUR OWN WORDS. And compared to Wales and Scotland that is around 45 MILLION more people. Yet you claim Leon had an advantage because the majority of a country with a population of only FIVE million voted for him.
Look, you understand maths right. You understand that no matter if what you say is true and Scotland DID just vote for Leon (even though you don't have any proof or reason to even say that). That no way would a country as small as Scotland being behind one person be enough to win him the show. And yes I understand you're saying that he got 1/3 of the vote in England and beat rhydian by default because Scotland is bigger. But please, apply some logic. WHY would the English votes have been so close that it would have come down to the Scottish/Welsh votes. If Rhydian was so much better and England were voting fairly? You do understand that Scotland only has 2 million more of a population than Wales. When you whittle that 2m difference down to those out of that extra 2m that actually would have voted in Scotland. That you are then only talking in thousands, who may have voted for Leon over Rhydian. If what you say made any sense those few thousand extra scottish votes would have had to have been the difference. Yet you claim someone was so deserving to win. Which means If they were, they would have had the majority vote in England. Where even just a majority of a few PERCENT (which this other person SHOULD have had if they WERE so much better and so much more deserving) would have overcome a defecit of a few thousand (which is all Leon's advantage would have been). That's because we're talking about votes from a country with a population of 50 million whose voting would have been IN the millions. And as you say, England were voting fairly.
To put it very simply. The advantage gained over Wales in terms of geographical voting wouldn't even register when you take into account the votes from England. It's just not viable to assume that Scotland's slightly greater popular would have an effect when you take the English vote into account. Whoever wins the majority of voting in ENGLAND wins the x factor, plain and simple. I'm sorry but population size determines that before any voting even begins, it is FACT and there can be no argument over that. There is no getting away from that because no matter what advantage you could gain from having alot of Scotland voting for you. It could never compete with People voting in England for who they think should win. Who England choose will always win because even just a small percentage more of the votes in England would outweight any advantage gained from extra votes from Scotland. Which only means one thing. Leon must have won the majority of the English vote. So
1, your point that Scotland voted for Leon wasn't very much of a point. Seeing as you never backed it up with ANY proof or logical reasoning. You've made a claim but never added any substance or basis and therefore just made a fool of yourself.
2, If he won the Majority of the English vote. Which I have just explained he must have through applying actual logic to my post. That means it's irrelevant whether SCOTLAND were biased towards Leon and only voted for him. As it wasn't their votes that were the deceiding factor.
And I'm not saying this to stick up for Leon or because I'm some kind of fan of his. I couldn't care less who won tbh. your post just annoyed me because you are making claims without even any basis and alot of what you said was illogical.
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