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Things I don't get ***SPOILERS***


I really do like this movie, but there are a few things that I just don't get.

When the Slit Mouthed Woman takes over bodies, does she have a pattern? At first I just thought that she was taking over bodies of mothers who were abusive, but then I thought about it a bit more. The mother of the two girls that the teachers kill at Masatoshi's house and Natsuki's mom both showed no signs of being abusive to their children. Did I miss a sign or is there a different explanation?

Also, when Matsuzaki takes off the Slit Mouthed Woman's head, does he die in the basement? I think that's what happened, but it was never fully specified. That also really sucks! I liked his character a lot!

The ending. Need I say more? The Slit Mouthed Woman says "Aim for my neck" HE DID!!!!! Matsuzaki chopped off her head! Then at the ending, Erica Sato's character becomes the Slit Mouthed Woman and I'm guessing that you can assume, kills her daughter Ai. Is this ending like Ju on where the ghost can't be stopped or did Matsuzaki just not do it right?

I'll say again that I did like this movie. These are just things that I would like to be cleared up. I've showed my friends some j-horror movies before and they ask questions. I wouldn't want Kuchisake Onna to be the first movie where i can't answer them.
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The mother of the girls was neglectful which is another way of being abusive. The mother left the children alone in the home. I explained the second as abuse that happened off camera. The notion that abuse isn't always obvious was implied.

I thought there was no end because there would always be abusive parents. She was the creation of children's imaginations to explain adult cruelty. I should watch this again, reading what you've written seems like I missed a lot. Caught it in theater during its American screen debut.

Thanks for pointing out that the character might have died if/when the legend died. Did he in that case feel like he was responsible for the pain she was inflicting? Like he was the monster.

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Thanks for the reply. It actually helped quite a bit. I'm probably going to watch it again to see if I happened to miss anything.

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Can you recommend a few jmovies movies with complex but sensible plots. The sort your friends are asking questions about? I liked this one because there was the sense of having to solve a mystery to make sense of the movie.

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My friends ask about every one of them so I'll just recommend a few

Chakushin Ari (2003)
They just did a remake of this one, but its about the voicemail messages that foresee your death. The ending is really what my friends asked about, but I do recommend it highly above the remake. Everything just seems to click better in it.

Kairo (2001)
The movie Pulse from 2006 is actually a remake of this one. It may be a little slow, but if you look at the big picture then the movie is truly horrifying.

Audition (1999)
This one is pretty freaky. Its kinda like a nicer version of a saw like movie I guess you could say, but the torture scenes are not the scariest part of the movie. Its directed by Takashi Miike who also did Ichi the Killer. Some people have pointed out that this one has a lot of loose ends and it is apparent that the director didn't really put much thought into it.

Ringu (1997)
Its pretty self explanatory. Everybody knows that they remade the Ring from it, but this one is better.

Infection (2004)
This movie kinda has you guessing throughout most of it. I do like this one. It makes you think a bit.

Thats all I can really think of right now. I don't know if any of them would suit your fancy or not. Hope you enjoy some of them if you choose to watch.
K-horror movies are a good genre also if you haven't already checked any of them out

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Sensible is hard given it's purely subjective, I'd go with Pulse, Strange Circus, Vital, Suicide Circle, Save the Green Planet, Ju-on: The Grudge 2 or Cure. You might even want to look at 3 extremes 1 & 2, though of the 6 shorts only 3 of them are worthwhile.

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About the ending, my immediate thought was that the teachers messed up by not cutting off the *real* Slit Mouthed Woman's head. They stopped her in the body she currently possessed, but they needed to sever the head of the original woman's corpse to stop her for good.

My jaded assumption was that the filmmakers were saving this part for the sequel. However, the making-of DVD extra suggested the director didn't put that much thought into things. I think Eriko Sato mentioned that they rushed through all the filming in just 10 days.

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That is a good point. I never really thought of it that way. I do remember Erico saying that they rushed through it.
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Who is the real monster though? It's not the abusive mom who asked for her son to cut off her head. When she's trying to make him cut off her head, she says that the next time she becomes weird, she feels she will probably kill him.

I don't think it was done for the sake of a sequel, especially since the sequel seems to be about a more human Kuchisake onna. Instead of a monster that just appears or possesses abusive moms, she's a crazy and disfigured (middle or high school) student attacking other kids.

Kuchisake onna is an urban legend and a new Kuchisakeonna "face" can be created for the sake of later on films, like they did for Kuchisake-onna 2.

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the teachers mother is the original slit mouthed woman. did you not pay that much attention.. You got the part about her telling him to cut off her head but did you not see that he slit her mouth instead... She's sick physically (the coughing) and mentally. Obviously by the fact that she killed her other two children and yes he would have been next if he didn't kill her. There may be a 2nd one since how the ending happened because they killed the possessed body of that one girls mother and not the real corpse that we saw at the beginning come out from the closet.

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no, she wasn't the original. the monster that comes out of the closet at the beginning, and the same monster we see fading into the shadows when the male teacher is holding his mom's head. that is the REAL slit mouthed woman. the mom from the flashback was just an old victim. she just liked her look so chose to appear as her even when she possessed others. cutting the head freed that mom from the curse. her spirit is finally free of the slit mouth woman. But the slit mouth woman remains and can continue on to wreak more havoc.

also, there already is a 2nd one. and even a third, though i have yet to see the 3rd one. in the 2nd one it takes place in the 70's and focuses on a different girl. But that movie just lends more to my theory that the slit mouthed woman is really an immortal spirit. Watch the 2nd one and you will see what I mean. she takes girls and women over and uses them. and it makes sense. the legend is actually over a thousand years old. alot of the modern aspects come from the revival of the legend in the 70's. But the core legend has been told in Japan since the Heaian period.

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All the people whose bodies Slit-Mouthed Woman (SMW) possessed had walked through that particular park at some point or through her house. The version of SMW who kidnapped the boy at the beginning would have been someone who had just been in the park, I guess. The only other transformation that wasn't shown was the possession of whoever kidnapped Mika.

It looked pretty obvious at the end that Matsuzaki was dead, he looked pretty immobilised and with the house caving in above him he couldn't have got out anyway.

I think the ghost can't be stopped because it had to be SMW's own body that was to be killed, every other body that Matsuzaki and Yamashita killed was just a vessel for the ghost.

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I think the ghost can't be stopped because it had to be SMW's own body that was to be killed, every other body that Matsuzaki and Yamashita killed was just a vessel for the ghost.

I ageee. SMW can't be killed because she's already dead. How do you kill an angry ghost? You can't. That's the crux.

Yamashita was so dumb that I can't get into the film even if it's a B-rated movie. She had so many opportunities to run away or kill, but all she did was gawp. It was funny Matsuzaki the male teacher consistently thought of children's welfare while Yamashita cared more about staring and gasping. So self-centred and dumb.

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When the Slit Mouthed Woman takes over bodies, does she have a pattern? At first I just thought that she was taking over bodies of mothers who were abusive, but then I thought about it a bit more. The mother of the two girls that the teachers kill at Masatoshi's house and Natsuki's mom both showed no signs of being abusive to their children. Did I miss a sign or is there a different explanation?

There are two types - the abusive or neglectful mother (Mika's mother and Masatoshi's mother) and the sick mother (the mother of two girls and Natsuki's mother had a coughing cold). We don't know about the boy's mother, who could be either.

The Slit Mouthed Woman says "Aim for my neck"

She didn't. It was a subtitle mistranslation.

Also, when Matsuzaki takes off the Slit Mouthed Woman's head, does he die in the basement? I think that's what happened, but it was never fully specified. That also really sucks! I liked his character a lot!

He died.

Is this ending like Ju on where the ghost can't be stopped or did Matsuzaki just not do it right?

She's kuchisake-onna! The legend of kuchisake-onna was created during the Nara period and the stories persisted through time to now. No, she cannot be stopped and that's part of the fun. I heard stories about her when I was little and my grandmother remembered hearing them when she was little, and she said her parents remembered hearing them when they were children. It's a tradition like English people hear stories about the Headless Horseman (Sleeping Hollow) or Bloody Mary. This film acknowledges that (remember Mika's father telling her he heard the stories too when he was a child?).

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Not to sound daft, but did anyone understand why she asked children if she was pretty? I don't really understand how that line ties into the urban legend at all...I mean, her mental instability didn't have anything to do with an obsession with her attractiveness.

When I read the description on Netflix it sounded like she was a woman obsessed with plastic surgery or something. Or was jealous of children's youthfulness. Instead she's just a beyatch

Unless she's so mentally gone that she says things that don't make sense? I don't know, regardless I was pretty disappointed by this movie.

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read up on the original legend to find out about the pretty thing. They didn't really explain that in the movie, I know. But the legend it is based on, has her asking people if she is pretty. and then she takes off her mask and says "how about now?" and then kills them. watch the 2nd one. they actually use that line in the correct way in that version.

http://www.asian-horror-movies.com/slitt.php

you can see it there. it's meant to be a prequel. though it focuses on a different person. it doesn't really have any connection to the first one other than both being about the Kuchisake Onna. (slit mouthed woman) You will learn in that one that it seems clear the Kuchisake Onna is a spirit that just possesses women down through the ages.

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Actually it seems like the words she is saying for "am I pretty?" and "aim at my neck" are the same. It sounds like "watashi kirei"

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kouleifohggs is right. if you listened carefully to the Japanese spoken, it's about the same. She meant to say "aim at my neck" but when her mouth was slithered by her son, the pronunciation got a bit off and sounds like "am i pretty" instead

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