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Anyone feel bad for Gretchen? (spoiler)


She said she was only marrying Doug because she wanted to settle down after a series of bad relationships and that she didn't love him, but that hardly makes her a bad person, does it? I mean she had to have seen something good in him to want to be with him, maybe when they were married she would have come to really like him.

But because it's groom-centred and a guy comedy, Doug has to get all the sympathy and empathy and his bride comes off as a mean-spirited bridezilla that he must be rescued from.

Does this strike anyone as a bit unfair?


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but they HAD to make her character a little shallow in the end, if she had been totally heart broken the likeability of these guys would be completely lost, and that was the true point of this story.
So yes, a little unfair, but over all, even Josh's character said it, when he told her "this is not really what either of us want, go find your true love."

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This is the only way the story could have turned out OK because Doug was going into it with a whole bunch of lies, and no relationship can survive that.

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Even though way Doug did it was humiliating, he saved her from marrying a guy she didn't love. She has a second chance to find true love.

Besides, the way she basically laughed at Jimmy when he implied that she loved Doug shows that she doesn't care about him at all.

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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't empathize or feel bad for her at all. I am personally of the mindset that I would rather be alone than with the wrong person. I know too many people who are miserable in their marriages (with kids, without kids, all types of people) because they don't want to be alone (be it because they are afraid, codependent, whatever). Life is too short to be miserable.

Plus, Gretchen mentioned in her speech to Jimmy/Bic outside the bathroom that she was "accustomed to a certain kind of lifestyle and Doug could give it to her" which I took to mean that she was all in it for the money. Doug absolutely deserved better than her. She mentioned her poor relationships, but I'm not convinced she wasn't the problem in those relationships.

She was a bitch. And it wasn't like it came out of nowhere. There were telltale signs all throughout the movie. She was controlling about everything, beyond Bridezilla (the wedding and the get-togethers). Her dad was a complete tool, too. Apple didn't fall far from the tree. It's amazing her sister turned out normal (I actually liked her the best out of her whole family...which is clearly something the producers wanted, so kudos to them!).

All that being said, Gretchen is absolutely not the worst character I've ever seen in a movie. I wouldn't say she was a villain. She was just a shallow manipulative gold-digger.

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I don't think she was being a bitch necessarily (if she was then Doug was being one too). She was just as equally shallow as Doug was in my opinion. She didn't really love him and numerous times throughout the movie Doug mentioned how he didn't really love her either. He was just in it for her looks and to have her as a trophy wife and she was in it for the security he could offer her. I like how everyone thinks she's some gold digging villain based on her last few lines of the movie but they conveniently forget how Doug not only kissed another woman (Nadia) but would have basically let her give him a bj just two or three days before their wedding. Obviously neither of them was right for the other but to break up with someone just after the wedding was a little harsh. What would he have done if an actual priest was officiating and everything was legally done?

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Not at all. She was using him for his money and because he was just a nice guy. She would've ended up cheating on him and taking half of his money eventually. Plus he ended up finding out he didn't love her either. Two people that don't love each other shouldn't marry.

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I think it was bad casting with her in the part. We have gotten used to her dating dorky guys on Big Bang theory so it was believable the whole time and then they just suddenly throw her into this bitch role at the end which was less believable. They should have had someone else in that role (though I like her in general) and they should have built up the "bitch" part more throughout rather then throw it in at the end.

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They should have had someone else in that role (though I like her in general)


Not everyone watches The Big Bang Theory but as an actress, it shouldn't matter if everyone indeed did see that show.

and they should have built up the "bitch" part more throughout rather then throw it in at the end.


Now this I agree with.

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The theme of the movie is 'being real'. He's got a trophy girlfriend. She's marrying him for security/money instead of love. He has no real friends and has to buy them. In the end he learns that being real is better than being fake. He didn't even love her, he just loved the idea of getting a girl that hot (even though the casting was off, she's not all that.)

I think the part where she wanted the Joe Cocker song "you are so beautiful" which was her song with her ex said it all. She was in love with him, but chose money/security over that guy. She probably makes love to him thinking about her ex.

I didn't feel for her at all.

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Yeah true not really though she was a bitch about it.


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The first dance song she chose too was the one that was playing when she made love with her ex so that is definitely not something Doug wants to be dancing too on their wedding day.

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