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possible big flaw (spoiler) - german police


Is it really normal, that german police when stopping car, because of passenger not wearing seat belt, is checking passenger's ID and not driver's?

Never heard about this procedure, at least in my country, driver is responsible for passengers and only checked person in car (of course not on border and if police has some suspicion about drugs/weapons/organized crime), when is his passenger not wearing seat belt, driver just pay fine and that's all (if he then takes money from passenger is their problem), but never heard that police would check passenger's ID instead driver's one.

So when police stopped their car and said she is not wearing seat belt I though it's just routine control with usual fine and it's just to scare viewer, but when police asked for Ayten's ID I was totally surprised because I find it totally strange to ask ID from passenger who is not wearing seat belt.

If this woudn't happen, she wouldn't deported and she woudln't go to jail and german GF wouldn't go to Turkey to get killed, so I find is as huge flaw, at least they could try different way how to show checking of her ID (like they are in club and police goes there because of drugs and checks ID of all visitors, this would look definitely much more real to me than checking ID of passenger (not driver) because of seat belt, I find it totally unrealistic).

Peter Markoff
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Afaik, the one not wearing the seatbelt is the one who has to pay the fine. So they would be checking Ayten's ID.

Maybe though they just became suspicious because of how the girls acted and that's why they wanted to see her ID. I'll have to rewatch the scene.

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When someone does not oblige the law ( like wearing the seat-belt) and/or is acting weird, the German police does ask for the ID. I have seen this in German trains.

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Well, but EU or Germany fortunately is not USA and FYI there is very big minority of Turkish people living there, my assumption would be 5% of all citizens of Germany (Wikipedia says more like 3% but there is not written if it's official data), so it's not big deal to see Turkish looking person in car without seatbelt.

Peter Markoff
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Even if Lotte were the one who didn't wear the seat belt, they would check Aytens ID as well. They didn't have to, but in most cases they will - just because it's licit.

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I think Aytan was acting a bit scared or weird.

but you know that if you do not live legally in Germany, it's a matter of high possibility being arrested by German cop. so maybe in a car because of not wearing seat-belt, or in a bar or somewhere else!

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I just watched the German DVD with Fatih Akin's audio commentary and he says that the police officers in that scene actually were real German police officers. For a long time, he couldn't come up with a reason why the police would want to see Ayten's passport in that scene (the reason why they pulled them over was that they'd been in an accident, but that accident was cut). It was the police officers who came up with the idea that Ayten wasn't wearing her seatbelt.

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In Holland and Belgium there are strict rules in being able to show your passport to the police at any given time. It even goes as far as that you might end up paying a fine when you want to file a complaint at a police station.

I wouldn't be surprised if - with the E.U. and all - it is a rule that's also there in Germany.

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