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Something deeply disturbing about this film and its message


Qualifier one: I am a male.
Qualifier two: I did not like the "message" in this movie (derived from the book content), so I therefor disliked the movie as a whole. I will be commenting on the message.
Qualifier three: I have not read the book.
Qualifier four: I am not, nor have I ever been married, but I have had serious relationships.

Let's start with the bedroom scene. "I don't want to go to Aruba" is followed with "I don't want to be married" .. really? After your brief moment of clarity in the other room, you know you don't want to be married? Cool.

But you'll go shack up with some artist type eventually.

You want to go around the world to "places of enlightenment" because that is where you think you will find spirituality? You think spirituality is the cure to the selfish darkness within you? Cool.

You feel guilt over your previous relationships (deservedly so) and all it takes is a few proverbial, common sense words from a "holy" man to fix you up? Cool.

I cannot for the life of me see what is inspiration or fantastic about this story. The main character is horribly self-absorbed, egocentric, narcissistic, and weak. The only thing that matters to her, is her; "what can this holy man do for me?", "what can this Italian family and way of life do for me?", "what can these geographical destinations do for me?", "what can a potential life without the husband, with all his faults and mistakes (none of which could be malicious or evil in any way), who I swore myself to, be like?"

If you'd like to counter with something contextually juvenile like "but happiness is important! we have only one life to live!" or "marriage and commitment only works if both partners are happy!" or "spirituality is real! you must find it or you are incomplete!" or "women deserve to be empowered as well as men!" .. don't (although I will grant you that there gender unfairness is truly a pattern within society). Spare us, please. You make a commitment, you honor that commitment until all avenues are exhausted.

You live YOUR life authentically and sincerely. You look down upon the world from the top of the Wynand building or out into the Mediterranean sea from a sun-drenched Algerian beach, and you marvel at your accomplishments on the world and the way you've lived your life.

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Well, I commend you for actually being able to watch this movie. With a lame title like this and Julia Roberts as the lead I don't think you could chain me up and make me watch this.

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Our local ladies afternoon out which advertised two local doctors making speeches on female health and sickness prevention and free carnations to the first 100 women included this movie as the entertainment. All free of charge. That took the cake for me, those in charge thought the film would be something that would attract women.
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He lifts me clear to the sky, you know he taught me to fly.

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Well put, intotrance - pretty much sums up my feeling.

The only thing I have to add - and it's coming in on a tangent - is I think this movie generates such negative responses because of that word 'inspiration'.

Whether it wants to assume the mantle or not, this is a story of discovery, and at some level I think it wants to inspire. The problem for me.... the movies I have catalogued under 'inspirational' are The Miracle Worker, My Left Foot, Gandhi, The Elephant Man, even in some respects The Diary of Anne Frank. I could add to the list but you get my point. The common theme to all of them is overcoming obstacles to achieve what most of us take for granted. They celebrate the human spirit and we bask in their glow (that is written without irony - this movies make me feel good about the future of humanity.)

The problem is the Roberts character already has those things, and still she spends an entire movie whining about me, me, me.

I'm not sure if it's a new (disturbing) trend, but the Roberts character in EPL reminds me of the Julie character in 'Julie & Julia' - self-centered, wretched personalities you'd run from if encountered in real life.

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What was wretched about Julie from Julie and Julia?

"He'd kill us if he got the chance."
--The Conversation

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Julie in real life is a total bitch. Amy Adams' Julie is cute and likable, though admittedly self-centered. I'm guessing that person was referring to real life Julie.

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I don't know Julie in real life, and I doubt I ever will. My only exposure to her is the movie, and I found her character (as portrayed) to be likable. But you could be right.....that poster could be talking about the real person. Or who knows, maybe the movie character? Maybe she just hates people who can cook.

"He'd kill us if he got the chance."
--The Conversation

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The book should have been titled 'eat..love and indulge'....in every selfish whim available to her....it is too bad she never came across the quote 'people travel the world searching for answers and come back home to find them'...I find the message of this book terribly disturbing. It only fuels the me attitude of this age and the sense of entitlement that comes with this generation. The consensus is I can hurt anyone as long as it makes me feel better...no consenquenses...noone else matters at the end. I do not envision myself travelling to look for my inner peace, rather I take the peace that i already feel within myself and merge it with the beauty and peace I know exists in a world where sometimes people do not undersand just how blessed we already are.....love your answer by the way...true peace and happiness is found with in us...

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Who could afford it nowadays anyway? Last thing I am going to do is not work for a year (or whatever) and spend crap loads of money to find out who I am ???


It's jUsT LiKe cAbO

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I agree and I'd also like to add that the whole time she seemed to want to find a way to be happy without a man in her life, but she never really ends up doing that. She just wound up right back where she started... we all know relationships are for the most part pretty wonderful in the beginning but it wouldn't surprise me if a few years down the road she dumps Bali man too and runs around the world again. "You can't change yourself by changing scenery." If she were really discovering herself and being happy on her own it would have been a much different and better movie, but she needs male attention.

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Mainly that life is a huge learning experience and that you can't close yourself off just because you got hurt.


When was she hurt?

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As she was getting in the cab to leave (after he had been sitting with her waiting with her for it) he was telling her if she instead decided to stay (in NYC, and with him) they could eat out at Indian restaurants every night.

It appeared to me he was just another guy she neglected and left out of boredom.

The only people who got hurt in this film were people interacting with Liz; never Liz herself (excepting of course when Javier ran her off the road :P).

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That weird rationalization/defense of this awful film is so wrought with holes that I feel like you might actually be Liz Gilbert. Just one of many instances of your nonsensical rambling is that you simultaneously champion LG while completely undermining her credibility. That is, such commentary as "keep trying until you get it right", "rediscover herself", "spiritual awakening", "a state of mind she was okay with", "courage and strength this main character had", and "leaving behind 'safe' in exchange for 'happy'" coupled with:

"I also think that the author of the book may in fact be lying about her age."

Like I said, there are all kinds of problems with your thinking here and the laughable dichotomy of the wizened, happy, spiritually awakened and centered post-midlife-crisis woman who lies about her age is simply one of them.

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It happened! Only she left him for a woman!

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I agree...I found the heroine selfish & shallow & totally unlikable.

FYI, I am a woman. I do object to any comments (either here or in the reviews) from people implying that female viewers likely don't see this character or story negatively. I've seen this issue with many RomComs, and this one is especially bad. At least most give us some justification by making the husband/bf a cheating jerk before the new romantic interest appears. This one offered nothing to temper this character's hideous actions to make her sympathetic.

Spoilers ahead....

What I found interesting is how the movie touched on her shallowness a few times, almost like it was aware of this. The husband telling her off was sympathetic to me. Maybe he was supposed to seem ridiculous, but he seemed RIGHT. Her "revelation" in Italy that "food is good" was so vacuous & stupid I surely thought it had to be a joke. Is it some puritanical east coast thing to feel guilt over pleasurable leisure time or "doing nothing"? I have no idea how this is supposed to ring true with the female audience.

Then, there's the meditation resort (what else can it be called?) when she goes to India. There's mention of a gift shop & the guru not being there (but not in NYC either; she doesn't exist!) & then she gets put into position of some kind of hostess/guide... again, I think, surely, this must be mocking the pseudo spirituality going on here that amounts to a self-absorption & showy displays of fake altruism, not to mention a BUSINESS. But nope...we're supposed to take this as serious spiritual truth-seeking.

Finally, the old wise man in Bali doesn't recognize her & it's implied he says the same crap to everyone to make a buck. Again, I see a glimmer of poking fun at this woman & her "self-discovery journey", but then it's dropped in favor him being some kind of mentor to her.

At the end, she learns nothing. Everything she does is something someone told her she needed, so she didn't really figure anything out for herself. She's now just fitting some new social ideal, one of the "spiritual, adventurous person" instead of "do it all career wife". She learned to forgive herself for something she had little hesitation to do or guilt over to begin with, which seems more like learning how to NOT take responsibility for your actions or acknowledge your own flaws. She can't even decide if she loves the Bardem character until the old wise man thinks for her & tells her she does. Before that, she blames this guy for throwing her "balance" off, instead of seeing herself as the problem. If this was reality, she'd repeat her cycle with him.

It would've been far more interesting had it fully explored this aspect of her phony self-discovery & those who make money off it, but that's asking too much from a RomCom & Julia Roberts movie...

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You nailed it. I had that feeling the whole time! Like the movie is winking at you, and totally agrees that this woman is awful...but as it plays out you realize the movie isn't even batting an eye! The writers are so unaware it's amazing. I am willing to watch a lot of bad movies if simply for the riff factor...but it's been a really long time since I came away from a movie so pissed off and confused.

My GF hated this film as well, so it's just universally offensive. Infact, I think she was more frustrated by this film than I was.

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Her "revelation" in Italy that "food is good" was so vacuous & stupid I surely thought it had to be a joke. Is it some puritanical east coast thing to feel guilt over pleasurable leisure time or "doing nothing"? I have no idea how this is supposed to ring true with the female audience.


You bet your sweet ass that it's a puritanical east coat thing to feel guilt over pleasurable time and "doing nothing." That's part of why I left. This state of mind has been around for a long time, thanks to the P in WASP: protestant. A lot of east coasters (even if they don't realize it) are subconsciously influenced by the Protestant work ethic and Calvinism. Especially in places like the Main Line, which is located in the Philadelphia suburbs. Do you remember in Titanic when Rose is talking about Philadelphia society and is ready to kill herself? 100+ years later...it hasn't changed much, except for the material goods. What you see may not ring true to a female audience per se...but for those who have lived in a culture that is so highly repressed because of toxic norms set by Protestantism, it absolutely is true.

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Spot on man. The woman I watched it with loved it........
They actually invited the Author to be in the "TED" talks. And guess what, it was "me, me me, me...".
Who woulda thunk it?

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Get rid of said woman. I am a woman and could not stand this movie.


It's jUsT LiKe cAbO

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I couldn't have worded it better. Roberts, who looks drawn and hasn't aged well, did a good job playing the part of a narcissist, discontented wife whose only desire in life is to live up to being the typical self-absorbed American wife - which she already is yet it isn't enough! What these other marvelous countries have to do with such a mindset - I will never understand. My best guess would be that America's Hollyweirdos have no clue as to what other cultures actually do.

The producers didn't even study up on Italian culture before writing about Italy. That disturbs me greatly since Italy is my home with my Italian born husband who thought this was ridiculous and didn't believe me when I said "yes, for the most part this is how American women really are!" I was born in America, but this is exactly the type of shallow, self indulgent, attitude of entitlement that I left America for in order to escape from it all. I was appalled on one hand and relieved to see the other comments here by people who see the same thing.

Awful!

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just b/c your mom was a selfish bitch does not mean all American moms are

most people cannot afford to be self indulgent

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