If you wanted Light to win because of what he accomplished
I suppose that's somewhat acceptable isn't it?
If you wanted him to win because you actually liked him as a person, then I probably gotta go with the camp that would call you immoral scum.
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I am scum huh.
I don't think so.
I wanted Light to win because I believe in his cause.
If I had a death note I would do the same.
CRIMINALS DESERVE TO DIE. End of discussion.
yes, because you believed in his cause, but you didn't like his personality that much did you.
Therefore, I wouldn't class you as the immoral scum I previously talked about.
What was there to like about his personality? I'm sure he would even be willing to kill his own father (like L suggested)
However i somewhat believed in his cause, but him starting to kill of the law enforcement ticked me of, and that is the reason he eventually got caught. It was a really dumb move for such a smart guy.
It's a tv show, an anime, a cartoon.. I loved Light as a character, so I wanted him to win. Simple as that. He was evil, and passing judgement and wanting to be god was wrong, but I still wanted him to win. It's a tv show man, you gotta learn to separate tv shows from reality.
sharealot of ppl when they watch films or TV shows, they put themselves in the characters' positions and think about how they would act
shareThere was nothing wrong with Light or his personality.
I will even say I admire him. His convictions were unwavering. He killed people that DESERVE TO DIE.
You always have a choice in life to be good or be evil. Criminals made that choice to kill, rob and other crimes. They gave up their right to live the moment they crossed that line.
Kira is Justice and nothing you punks could ever come up with will ever change that opinion.
I have seen it so many times in life, people that get away with their crimes such as Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman, those police officers who killed that homeless man and many, many more. If I had a death note they would have been punished for their crimes, society is better off without people like them.
Did Ray Pemberton or his FBA agent-girlfriend deserve to die? No, they only died (a very cruel death) only because they stood in Lights way. Did L deserve to die too?
If he only stuck to killing criminals, maybe I would not be so disgusted with him, but he killed a bunch of people who were innocent, and his mindset changed considerably throughout the show. But at one point it was not about getting rid of the criminals, but creating a world with society governed by fear. Not liking this idea so much.
Life is not fair, a lot of cruel and unjust things happen to people, but whether an egotic and egocentric teenager should be passing judgement on people- I am not so sure.
They stood in Light's way. They would not have died if they did not try to stop Light.
Sometimes you have to lead the world by fear because it won't be good on it's own.
If we lived in a ideal world, there would have been no need for Kira.
He considered killing his own sister. Such a pathetic being.
shareHe considered killing his own sister. Such a pathetic being.He only considered it because he was weighing it against the alternative of having the death note fall into the hands of some unknown organization who would do God knows what with it. And anyway, he ultimately didn't go through with it.
"The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor."
- Voltaire share
The simple fact that you believe George Zimmerman was guilty and deserved to die proves that you aren't even informed enough about the high profile cases to be able to act as any sort of competent justice, let alone the obscure ones Light judged. Zimmerman acted in accordance with Florida law, simple as that.
And Light didn't just kill people that "deserved it". He killed people who challenged him, people who inconvenienced him. He was scum, and so are you.
No Zimmerman didn't.
He is guilty of murder. All Zimmerman had to do is stay out of it. He was already talking to the police and they told him not to pursue Treyvon. Yet Zimmerman did anyway. So by his direct actions, Zimmerman killed Treyvon and then got away with murder.
I am very well informed about the case, all Zimmerman had to do is phone the police when he saw the intruder and let the proper authorities take it from there. Treyvon would not have been murdered and would still be alive.
Kira WAS JUSTICE. He killed people who were trying to catch him. All they had to do is again stay out of his way that includes L, and they would not have died. They choose to go after Kira and thus it led to their deaths.
LMAO! No, you are not informed on the case, neither are you informed on things like the law, the Constitution, or basic human rights. First of all, the dispatcher that he talked to never ordered him not to follow. He simply suggested to him that it's not necessary. The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin. Zimmerman said yes, and the dispatcher told him that he didn't need to do that. On what planet can that phrase be considered an order?
And even had the dispatcher told him to stay where he was, that is not an order that a police officer is authorized to give. Zimmerman had every right to walk wherever he wanted in that neighborhood.
You then go on a complete non-sequitur when you say that by Zimmerman following Trayvon that he was guilty of murder. This does not logically follow, especially since all of the evidence that was brought up in trial pointed to Trayvon being the aggressor. Had Trayvon not been the aggressor then Zimmerman would have been convicted. Thus it's "axiomatic" that Z. was innocent.
Like I said, you lack even the most basic understanding of current events as well as the law. And I'm supposed to believe that you'd make a good judge over all of humanity? LMAO! You wouldn't even be worth having as a juror for an unpaid parking ticket. But by all means, keep up with your delusions of grandeur.
Why don't you guys take this debate to private messages? This really isn't the place.
"To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency. To forgive them is cruelty."
-Robespierre
Easy solution:
Click on "ignore user"
Trust me, I won't cry.
Easier solution: take it to private messages. I don't even care about it really, but other people would if this debate ends up becoming dozens of posts long and hijacks the whole thread, which it easily has the potential to do. This board is about Death Note, not George Zimmerman. Mentioning him once was one thing, as he's definitely the sort of person that Kira would have written into the death note, but getting into a whole debate about him is off-topic.
"To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency. To forgive them is cruelty."
-Robespierre
I really don't care. Who in the hell made you moderator anyway? I hate to be a dick, but seriously, you're not my mother.
shareWhatever man. Honestly it sounds like you're just being a prick for the sake of it. This is just about common courtesy, a concept that's evidently alien to you. Hopefully the poster you're arguing with is more reasonable.
Anyway i've made my point so i'm out now, lest I get entangled in this clusterf-ck. See you.
"To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency. To forgive them is cruelty."
-Robespierre
Oh yeah, he's definitely a reasonable guy, what with the whole 'identifying with an evil sociopath like Kira' thing he has going on. I'm typically rather courteous but I reserve that courtesy when dealing with those who delight in murder. There's a good reason why Kira was the villain in the story, after all.
As for the derailment of the thread that you are lamenting - congratulations, for you have assisted in tripling its length!
LMAO! No, you are not informed on the case, neither are you informed on things like the law, the Constitution, or basic human rights. First of all, the dispatcher that he talked to never ordered him not to follow. He simply suggested to him that it's not necessary. The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin. Zimmerman said yes, and the dispatcher told him that he didn't need to do that. On what planet can that phrase be considered an order?
And even had the dispatcher told him to stay where he was, that is not an order that a police officer is authorized to give. Zimmerman had every right to walk wherever he wanted in that neighborhood.
You then go on a complete non-sequitur when you say that by Zimmerman following Trayvon that he was guilty of murder. This does not logically follow, especially since all of the evidence that was brought up in trial pointed to Trayvon being the aggressor. Had Trayvon not been the aggressor then Zimmerman would have been convicted. Thus it's "axiomatic" that Z. was innocent.
Where did I say that was a order?
I said he was told not to follow Martin, and he did so anyway.
I am not disputing that Treyvon was the aggressor, but if Zimmerman would not have followed Martin, he would not have had to lash out.
So I do understand the case just fine. So when you are asked not to follow the person, and you continue to do so anyway, then be prepared to accept the consequences. Martin was the aggressor, but Zimmerman PUT HIMSELF in that situation. If Zimmerman would not have followed Martin, and let the cops do their job, Martin would still be alive.
Simple as that, he is guilty of murder.