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'Unfortunately' most of their friends were white?

posted 14 years ago by Demian Cypher
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I found this particular statement in the film to be quite odd, though I realise it was a 'throwaway' comment and has little to do with the main subject of the film. But what is "unfortunate" about this? It seems very unlikely that one would hear this being said by any non-white person about aquaintances of their own ethnicity. Is this a reflection of an ingrained political over-correctness? Is self-deprecation in order to appear liberal and enlightened the new 'white privilege'?

[–] BugisStreetAnnie 14 years ago

I didn't understand that comment, either.

[–] redbirdbeat 14 years ago

Are you serious, Demian Cypher?

A group of men who are considered to be the bottom of the barrel make a comment like this, and you feel the need to lose sleep over the issue of political [over]correctness? Maybe your reaction is a reflection of some oversensitivity. I'm just saying......

When I heard the comment, I assumed that since these men seem to feel like the quintessential outsiders, they may think they have an affinity with more traditional "outsider" groups. Unfortunately, they probably feel they have a lot in common with gays, minorities, etc. I use the term "unfortunately" because most members of those other groups would want nothing to do with them politically or socially. For example, when gay marriage opponents suggest same-sex marriage will lead to marriage between man and animal, the gay rights activists are outraged. (And rightfully so, in my opinion.)

I think these men are living in a reality of their own making. In order to live with the ostracism that comes with their inclinations, they have to view themselves, their world, and their place in that world, through some pretty bizarre self-generated conventions.

Oh, and as for these guys and white privilege? HAH! Yeah, right. "I'll leave my trailer at 8:00 so I can get to the barn for sex by 8:15."

[–] Xeokym 14 years ago

Damn, redbirdbeat, take it easy...I don't think the TC deserves quite that much angst.

I found this particular statement in the film to be quite odd, though I realise it was a 'throwaway' comment and has little to do with the main subject of the film. But what is "unfortunate" about this?

I took it to simply mean, he was disappointed that they didn't have more ethnic diversity. He also said, "at least one of them was Mexican," or something close to that...I believe there was nothing racist at all about that statement (though it was odd). The more people that he could find to justify his carnal attraction to horses, the better, especially if he could say, "look, there are people like me from all over the world!" I don't believe it had anything to do with trying to sound politically correct (the guy didn't care that people knew he fully advocated man-horse love, does he seem like a person concerned with PC to you?) or self-deprecation, liberalness or attempting to come off as an "enlightened white" at all.

I also wondered if these men met together to engage in homosexual encounters with one another as well...I don't know specifically if a man likes "taking it" from a male horse makes him gay or not (IMO it does, a penis is a penis) according to THEM. Were they all gay with humans as well? Because maybe he was saying he was hoping for more ethnic diversity due to his homosexual preferences, possibly. It was unclear in the movie if the men engaged in sex with one another as well as the horses, or if they were there strictly for the horses. Mr. Hands had a wife and a son, so I guess he was technically "bisexual." Right? *shrug*

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[–] redbirdbeat 14 years ago

I think you've got me mixed up with Damien Cypher, but ok.

You made really good points about their desire for ethnic diversity, as if having that diversity could help legitimize their activities.

I still have so many questions about the deceased. I just can't quite put him in the same category as these other people, who believe they actually "love" these animals. It seems to me the deceased was on a deliberately self-destructive path.

As for the gay thing, in the movie, someone says Mr. Hands was very disappointed that his marriage ended. Or something like that. The person also said Mr. Hands thought being married with a child would be the best thing ever. I assumed this meant a traditional marriage between members of the opposite sex. Not exactly a typical gay man's desire.

Then again, what was TYPICAL about any of this?

I'll just sit here and shake my head for a moment if you don't mind.

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[–] Der_Schnibbler 11 years ago

It's just brainwashed white lemmings who have been taught to hate themselves, and who believe any non-White is inherently morally superior somehow.

In other words, American loons.

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