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anyone ever met anyone that does this?


I find it hard to believe that a girl would actually do this. Anyone ever actually met any that did?

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Yes I have met some of them. By the way, Mr. hands wasn't a girl.

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No he wasn't a girl, but there's at least one very enthusiastic female *beep* fan interviewed in the movie. Makes for some great sound bites.

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I have known many people that have done this sort of thing both male and female. A male friend of mine actually married his horse in missiouri. Girls get into dogs and horses in a sexual way a lot more than most people think. Male animals cannot be abused sexually by women either. Unless a woman uses a strap on. Men on the other hand pose a problem when it comes to sex. Though most mares are dangerous to rape since they can kill you with a kick in the balls.

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You've known "many people" that are into this? MANY? Where do you meet them? Are they prone to living in certain areas? I've lived in Atlanta, New York, Chicago, and Champaign and have met all kinds of people, and have all kinds of friends in all three states, but I never ever came across a person who was attracted to animals (at least openly). Does this mostly take place in rural areas? Are the people you know in the U.S.? I'm fascinated that you would know multiple people without being a part of that subculture yourself. Is it just by chance that you've met very open "zoo" people?

I'm totally fascinated by this topic because it is SO far from anything I would ever in a million years imagine possible for myself. It simply never occurs to me. Yes, I'm quite disgusted, but still quite fascinated.



"No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater..... than central air."

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The whole zoophilia thing is nothing new. I once read an article where a woman recounts having oral sex with her dog, and one about a guy who enjoys manually pleasuring dolphins of both sexes.

But from what I gather, allowing an actual STALLION to penetrate you is something that even in the most non-judgmental "zoo" communities is highly discouraged, because it is a) very hard to orchestrate and successfully achieve, and b) once it is achieved it is very likely you will end up with permanent damage of some sort (or else die, like Mr. Hands).

Now, sometimes I do think that there are so many unconventional kinks out there, that having some sort of animal fetish is hardly that much more outrageous.

What IS rather outrageous is going to huge lengths to set up encounters with animals, to the point that you may be infringing on the law (using animals that are not yours).

Also there is the question of consent. Anything beyond playful stroking, etc, might potentially harm the animal. Because an animal can't give outright consent, this is where it becomes abuse.

Again, I think there is a difference between people who have occasional fantasies about animals and, say, feel close enough to their pet dog to sleep in the same bed with it and snuggle, and on the other hand people who are CONSUMED by their "love" of animals, and spend all their time planning their next encounter, which basically involves abusing the animal.

There are porn films made that indulge very odd animal fetishes - such as women inserting eels into themselves, or this latest Japanese fetish (at least according to Bizarre magazine) which involves girls covering their body from head to toe with live octupii, jellyfish, goldfish and other gooey sea creatures. Invariably, some end up finding their way into certain, uh, crevices.

My problem with all this porn is, again, consent. A lot of animals are not shaped to be used as sex toys - whether phallic or vaginal - and it is cruel to make them serve that function.

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Let me just ask this about consent: For example, lets say you want sex with a foreigner, who don't understand your language, and you don't understand his/her language. How do you communicate and finaly have sex? Bodylanguage, is that right...

Now animals ( not talking about birds and fishes, but mammals)have bodylangage too, So animals can consent, other topic is: do you read the body language right or not, but thats another topic.

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needs to be gelded if it really believes what it wrote.

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"I'm totally fascinated by this topic because it is SO far from anything I would ever in a million years imagine possible for myself. It simply never occurs to me. Yes, I'm quite disgusted, but still quite fascinated. (creese)"

I found it interesting in a macabre type way too. I read an interview with the director(s) and they found an entire online community where these people hang out. The animal fockers compare their situation to that of gay folk. It's extremely bizarre, enter at your own risk (link below).

http://www.beastforum.com/

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You know a lot of people that do this? Where do you live...And get some new friends. That is sick.

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yeah I want to vomit too, it is so sickening and disgusting , only very sick and perverted freaks could ever imagine of doing it im not even talking how sick someone has to be actually to do that. I will not even watch the movie, if I knew what its about I would never clicked on its title.

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i have never ever ever ever needed nor wanted to uncontrollably vomit like i do now. nevermind the movie but the true stories behind it....wtf. how do ppl rationalize and defend that this is okay.

-Mia

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I completely echo your thoughts. Some of these posts have only reminded me of how demented a portion of our society really is. I kept having to ask myself if this was a big joke. I'd laugh if I wasn't so disturbed. Apparently we need to open many more mental institutions, not that I believe therapy will help these truly sick individuals. It's not like I didn't know that these types of acts have been documented. But listening to these people try to justify their thoughts and behavior as "natural" disgusts me beyond belief. I don't care if this has been going on since the dawn of time, or even if it was considered "acceptable" at any point in the history of society. It wasn't right then, it isn't right now, and it will never be right EVER in the future. It's not a matter of rejecting these people because they aren't "normal". I didn't grow up sheltered or naive. I have pretty much seen it all; that doesn't mean I accept it. It's a matter of right and wrong, and I didn't need my parents, teachers, or anybody else to help me determine which is which when it comes to humans having sex with animals.

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Thank you Mia

I started to read these posts and thought that I was being taken over by a bunch of sickos. Then I read yours and laughed out loud. My thoughts exactly.

I never knew there were people like this. Oh please have them get help!

Erin

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You basically took the words right out of my mouth. This isn't okay, and people who rationalize it as okay need to seek help fast. There is no way you can ask an animal to have sex with you. Nor is there a way they can consent to getting married to or having sex with a human. This isn't okay. And frankly it's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of in my life.

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That's why I asked that AragristLarrKahn guy. He said he knew many people that were into this and I wanted to know how that was possible if you're not already part of that community. He never wrote back though, so we'll never know if he truly knows beastiality freaks.



"No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater..... than central air."

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Sorry for not writing back in response. I'm actually very busy working on a new book and caring for my family. I have first hand knowledge of the subject because I used to be involved in it. When I was 15 I had my first sexual encounter with a mare that was given to me. I spent a year with her working with her everyday and spending a lot time brushing her and caring for her when I started feeling love for her. Then on my birthday which she shared with me(her birthday is 6 days after mine) I decided to take my relationship to the next level and she let me. When I was 21 I met a human girl and she told me I had to give up my relationship with my horse and so I did and then I had a kid when I was 26.

I do miss her but I know she has a great home. Some very rich older people took her in and treat her well. She is currently 22 years old.

During my time in that community I met thousands of people online that shared similar interests. Some are abusive liars that don't care about the animal and just want to screw something that they can tie up and beat. But there are a lot of what we call "True Zoos" that are in love and want to marry their mates. One of my best zoo friends married his mare in missiouri about 7 years ago. He is still with her and they are very happy.

Back in the day of my youth I even went to a few So Cal Zoo meets and met about 50 other local zoos in person. In fact we would often go to and have big dinners at restaurants in full public view openly talking about our horse lovers and no one bothered us. One meet was held at the LA zoo. This should be obvious but some the staff there are zoos. Oh, and yes some of the zoos are women too. The ratio is like 4 to 1 man to woman. Sea world employs the most dolphin and whale zoos in the world. There are a lot of videos on the web of the trainers there giving oral sex to the male dolphins and fingering the females. In your everyday life 1 of every 15 people you meet are possibly zoo and 1 out of 10 have at least had a sexual experience with an animal in their youth.

I hope this post helps.

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Well, I will try to enlighten some questions...


Are Zoophiles are human beings too?
Yes, WE are.

So, yes, I know so much zoophile both over the internet, both persobally since I am a zoo too. Ím I a criminal, or abuser? No, I am not.
I just got different feelings from the Creator than the others. There is nothing to do with this, I cannot change this - and well, I don't even want to. I ahve acceptem myself - thought there was time when I hated myself and felt that my feelings are incorrect, I felt that what I feel is wrong. But at last I understood that there is nothing wrong in Love. I am a "True Zoo" (se later) and I am not ashamed of it.

"But from what I gather, allowing an actual STALLION to penetrate you is something that even in the most non-judgmental "zoo" communities is highly discouraged, because it is a) very hard to orchestrate and successfully achieve, and b) once it is achieved it is very likely you will end up with permanent damage of some sort (or else die, like Mr. Hands)."
- You know, I knew the name of Mr. Hands from the net, I've seen some of his videotaped acts, and I know so many zoos, even some of those who are played a big and important part in the modern history of zoophilia.
So his death is very tragic and unexpected. I know many people who is involved in analsex with stallions, but so far as I know, he was the only one who got serious injury because of this. I also heared about a guy who got stroke through wild and passionate sex with his wife, so... this not more dangerous. The only difference is that you have to know horses, understand their soul and thinking, and their languge, that's all...

"There are porn films made that indulge very odd animal fetishes - such as women inserting eels into themselves, or this latest Japanese fetish (at least according to Bizarre magazine) which involves girls covering their body from head to toe with live octupii, jellyfish, goldfish and other gooey sea creatures."
...and...
"Some are abusive liars that don't care about the animal and just want to screw something that they can tie up and beat. But there are a lot of what we call "True Zoos" that are in love and want to marry their mates."
...and...
"A lot of animals are not shaped to be used as sex toys - whether phallic or vaginal - and it is cruel to make them serve that function."
- Yes, it is true, i also saw such things and to be honest, I am really terrified about it. We, the "True Zoos" do not call them zoos... they are just morons...
Being "True Zoo" means that we have real feelings and spiritual connections to animals. they are not tools or toys for us - they are living, feeling and loving creatures. They can think and they have souls. A True Zoo would NEVER ever doing anything with insects and jellyfish, or would never rape an animal. We "ask" them, and "offer" through their language and they can decide if they want it or not. We respect them and do not force anything. Rape an animal against its will, in my opinion is the same criminal act as rapeing a human.
But having sex with animal who wants it and enjoys it - there is nothing wrong in this.

We not use them... we LOVE them, in the same way as you love your human partners, girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband... these are real, and true feelings.

"Let me just ask this about consent: For example, lets say you want sex with a foreigner, who don't understand your language, and you don't understand his/her language. How do you communicate and finaly have sex? Bodylanguage, is that right...

Now animals ( not talking about birds and fishes, but mammals)have bodylangage too, So animals can consent, other topic is: do you read the body language right or not, but thats another topic."
You don't need to be specially talented. The body language of animals is very simple. If you spend much time between them, simply watching, observing them, if you feel something and want to tell them, you will learn their language. many of those who spent many years with horses ro dogs are know clearly what i am speaking about. But for exampl, look at the case of mares:
If they do not want you to doing any erotic, they will tell clearly. If a mare refuses sexual acts from you, it can do it in different levels. Mostly, at first they are just simply walk away. But if you would try again and again, against her will, she will be pissed of soon and you have a chance that she will smash your head into pieces with her hindleg. But if she says yes, she will act just as she would with a stallion during mating, tail up, and let you doing what you waanted...

Once a mare "asked me" to have se with her. She nuzzled me, then turned towards me, with her tail in the air and started backing onto me... what is this if not clear massege of free will?


"I found it interesting in a macabre type way too. I read an interview with the director(s) and they found an entire online community where these people hang out. The animal fockers compare their situation to that of gay folk. It's extremely bizarre, enter at your own risk (link below).

http://www.beastforum.com/";
- Well, if you are interested in understanding True zoos, then forget about Beastforum... this is a dirty place. Not because there are zoos there, but because those morons who are run it ar interested in MONEY only. They use tho whole as a money maikng machine, and do not respect anyone. Of course there are many good people there who are simply do not know what is in the background - i feel sorry for them.
You know, Beastforum was totally free orginally. Peopla are uploaded their stuf and others downloaded. But then they decided that downloading will be possible only through a paying account. Many people at this time said: Okay, then i will leave, please DELETE all my personal stuff. And what answer they got? They were banned immediately, and their personal uploads re remained there for dowloading fro MONEY. Those people wanted their stuff to share with others for free and they are really upset since thet, and still upset now because some morons are make money from what they wanted tp share fro free...

"In your everyday life 1 of every 15 people you meet are possibly zoo and 1 out of 10 have at least had a sexual experience with an animal in their youth."
Well, i am not sure about the first that it apllies here too, but about the scond, I am agree.
Zoophilia, love towards animals and the concrte sexual lust is not rare and not new. You can see paintings of humans having sex with animals, on the pots used by South American indians, or vene from tales of North americans. The ancient greek wrote many stories about sex and love with animals. It was usual and common in almoust aeverywhere amongst the ancient shamanic and animistic people. It was well known by the vikings and many other northern nation too.... And i could continue this for soooo long. Zoophilia is just as ancient as the human race itself, and were never considered as crime for many many thousands of years.


Somebody mentioned that ot is similar to gays... well, in some way, it is:
- Some people like the opposite gender, some the same, some both.
- Some people like humans, some animals, some both.
- Both gays and zoos have real feelings, and can fall in true love.
- Both was counted as crime, and counts as crime even nowadays at some places.
- From both, people try to make peoples understand and do not hate.
- And both have to afrraid of those who are only capable for hate, nor for any tolerating or understanding.

In the modern history of zoophilia, there were some people, some real hero who tried to make people understand, who admitted openly that they love animals, and worked for make people understand that we are not bad, we are not criminals, nor worshippers of Satan...
And I have to say that most of them failed... People are full of hate and anger. The last ones who tried to talk openly, are almoust died, when their home was set on fire by some hater. And althought they survived, some of their animal lovers were burnt alive an the house turned into burning hell. And for a Real Zoo, such a loss is not even a litlebit smaller than loose a human lover.
I remember when one of a friend's mares has died lat year... Poor guy got a crackup in his mind and almoust gone crazy for the loss... his friends who was there at the time, had to call a doctor for him and the doctur gave him a ton of tranquillizer...

Then now tell me: Is he a criminal? Is he an evil, bad person? Is he a find?
Or is he just a human being like me or you, who loved a living, feeling creauter?

We are notheng worse than you. We also have a feeling heart and our heart is bleeding in suffer as we feel, how much many people hate us. We did nothing wrong and hurt noone. We just want the same as you: live, love, and die in peace.

Think about your friend who you talked about girls yesterday... maybe he loves horses more than human girls. Mybe the policeman who help you when your house were rubbed, is also a zoo. Maybe the soldier who fights for you in a faraway country, has his four legged lover at home, waiting for him. Maybe the doctor who saved your life in the hospital, is married with her dog.

Are we bad persons, just because we love animals? I don't think so...


In the urning fore of hate and judgements, we have learned how to respect, tolerate and accept others. Why don't you try the same?
We do not hate those people who are hate us. We just want peace and love. Thats all...


So all in all I have to say that this film is very important. It shows the people that we are not criminals. It shows the people that we are not bad. It shows a little of our feelings.
So mayb, just maybe this film makes many people to think, and maybe... to understand.



In Memoriam

For the memory of all those animals and people who are left us and we miss so much.

I hope, I will meet them one day when I passed the Rainbow Bridge.

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Finally a voice of reason.
There is far too much hating going on in this world.
What is wrong with loving an animal as opposed to a human anyway?
We all like what we like, and we should all be free and not afraid to love what we love ONLY as long as we are not hurting anyone or forcing anyone to do anything against their will.
So what is wrong with having sex or falling in love with an animal?
I don't see it, and I understand it too, because I don't very much like humans myself, and that's how I was born.
If I could choose between having sex with a horse for an example, and a guy, I would probably choose the horse!
I've never has sex with anyone or anything yet.
Lmao.
My sexuality is even stranger than most, because the things that are more sexually attractive for me are neither human, or animal, well not of this earth anyway.
I've always grown up with a fetish for things reptillian, and from an early age I discovered I had fantasies about creatures, monsters, aliens, and sometimes animals too, etc.
men never really being attractive to me and I'm also shy is the reason I am still a virgin, and will remain one all my life, because the objects of my sexuality aren't available to me in this day and age.
Now what would people think of me going off and having sex with aliens or some creature from outerspace??
I just wish everyone would be more understanding and open about love instead of judging and picking whats wrong and write and saying who we should love?
I commend you for speaking your piece about your sexuality and I'm glad you make no apologies for it. Yo aren't hurting anyone, so where is the problem so many people have about this topic?
I can understand it is sick when it comes to money and people don't care about the animals they do these sex acts with.
it's the same between people, of either gender, we have the right to love who or what we want, that is, if its consentual on BOTH sides.
thanks for this post!

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Very well put. As for me I never got excited really at all from humans at all for some reason. My first orgasm in fact i was thinking about animals. To me human sex turns me off. I have to admit that I can't be with in 50 feet of a horse or large german shepherd with out getting "feelings". I have not really had sex yet, but do sunggle very intimately, and am very close to my neutered dog. I have not met anyone like me, but I do not know anyone who likes instrumental movie soundtracks either! Oh yeah moonlightstallion please pm to chat if you still visit this site

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I think they're probably joking...I hope...

Sex with other animals is absolutely disgusting (except for chimps).

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OMG, I'm horrified that there are people this deluded, but then again I'm horrified at the psychological pathology of some serial killers also. You know what I'm a very open minded person and I've tried to be understanding and find logic in this six ways to Sunday. You can make a rational justification for just about anything, but the bottom line is some things are just sick and wrong!

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Yes, your post helps prove that you're a complete freak who should be sterilized, even though you've already spread your poisonous seed. Sick, sick SICK

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At my first job after high school in the early 80's, I worked with a guy who claimed to have had sex with pigs over 300 times. He was from a rural area in southern Mexico and said that he had also had sex with cows and goats but he liked pigs the best. I don't think he was a zoophile like the people in this movie because he would also have sex with women and gay men. I think he was just an ''indiscriminate fornicator'' to put it politely.

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I am swedish, of course I know people that have done this =)

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REALLY!?
That's weird.. I'm Swedish and I've never heard of anyone doing this...
So I don't think the fact that you're Swedish as anything to do with the fact that you're friends with people who are have sex with animals...
And I find it pretty offensive that you're putting like it's obvious...

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In my old neighborhood we had the rumors going around, I wasn't sure if they were true or not. I will leave out names.

There was this married couple and the husband was a really bad alcoholic, a few people said this. He would charge a 6 pack of beer to watch his wife get it on with a horse.

One of the boys I grew up with was caught in the woods having sex with a dog.

One of my ex-boyfriends foster brother was caught having sex with a pig in the barn.

One lady where I worked was supposively videotaped putting peanut butter on her crotch and having her dog clean it off.

There are just some things that we don't need to know about people

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When I was like 9 or so I was at my best friend's house. When were in her room and she was like I wanna show you something. She was laying on her bed and she called her dog over and all of a sudden the dog was giving her oral. Yea, I was pretty much disturbed and confused cuz I was a little kid you know? She was like, you should try it! I was like oh my god.
Now that I think about it, besides being gross, isn't it kind of dangerous? I mean dogs can be unpredictable. What if it got mad and bit her? OUCH
And also it was weird becuz the dog just automatically did it, I mean did she teach him or what?

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Dogs just naturally like licking and sniffing crotches. And why would the dog get mad while he is having a good time? I swear people are stupid when it comes to animal psychology.

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No genius, I didn't say the dog would get mad. But animals will play around by BITING. And that includes yo crotch so it's not only disgusting to do this, it's stupid too.



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I don't care what you people say, having sexual relations with an animal is just downright WRONG.

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I hope, I will meet them one day when I passed the Rainbow Bridge.


Kill yourself to get there faster.

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Seriously, you're just impeding the evolution of mankind by existing at all.

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Yeah, and by the way, you SHOULD kill yourself. All people who have had sex with or who are seriously thinking about it should..the world would be a much better place.

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Well i don't think the monkey-AIDS story has actually been confirmed though. It just sounds like a racist urban legend.

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Having sex with anything that cant give its consent is rape & its abusive. I dont care if its a girl passed out on your bed or a loving dog that doesnt know any better. Animals become trusting of humans feeding & taking care of them...Its terrible. Zoo freaks should be prosecuted under the Cruelty to Animals Acts of 2001. Sick bastards!

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Actually, I believe the monkey/AIDS connection is that a vaccine was manufactured using monkey kidneys, and was mandatorily administered to poor people in the Congo. There is pretty strong evidence that that is how the disease crossed the species barrier. Not through sex with monkeys. (Although there may be people who do that)

There is an EXCELLENT documentary about this, called "The Origins of AIDS".

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How the hell would the dog be having a good time by licking a crotch? Dogs are stupid people, I love them in a non-sexual freakish way, but they are dumb. The dogs getting no pleasure out of licking a crotch..its not thinking like a human you idiots.

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Are some of you people serious? A dog or any other animal cannot "give consent". IT DOESN'T TALK! Don't give the exuse about "body language" because humans ans animals are different. We are more evolved and should know better then to engage in sexual acts with animals, they aren't even our species. And to compare Mr. Hand's death while engaging in anal sex with a horse to a man dying from a stroke while having sex is like comparing falling off a chair to falling off a mountain. Can you really justify the safety of the act of having a full grown horse penetrate you to a man (who was most likely slderly) having a stroke? First off a stroke is natural. It can happen to anyone at anytime. A perforated colon is in no way natural. I love animals very much, however I understand the fact that they are animals and they should be treated as friends or family, not a lover. You should honestly see a therapist or psychologist to understand why you feel the connection you do to animals because it is not healthy or sane.


But everyone does have flaws or something mentally wrong with them, it of course may not be as extreme as this, however nobody is entirely normal or healthy and to attack these people isn't right at all. And to say they should die or kill themselves is just very rude, hurtful and ridiculous.

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Amsterdam sex shops sell tonnes of bestiality dvds.

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Let me give you just one simple answer for all your pro-beastiality *beep*

Dude, you're *beep* ANIMALS.

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Well if the animal didn't like it it wouldn't come back for more.

This reminds me of the fella who fell in love with a goat his neighbor had chained up next door to keep the grass short. Every morning before work he would hop over the fence to make love to his 'wife'. After a while he wondered if this was normal behaviour and thought he better check with his psychiatrist and make sure it was kosher.

So he went to his analyst, told his story, there was a long pause before the psychiatrist said. "Tell me is this goat a billy-goat or a nanny goat?"

The fella leaps off the couch really angry saying "Whaddya think I am, gay?"

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Satan_Clausxxx; humans are a species of animal. What's your point?

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