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W.O.P.R Original Prop? [SPOILER]


Having seen this movie over the weekend, I was quite shocked to see the original W.O.P.R looking all beaten up, dusty and being referred to as an "old piece of junk" in this movie (which was sad), then getting blown up! (even sadder!).

Seems no one on this board has mentioned the original gets a real appearence.

I just wondered if this was the actual original prop used in the first movie, or did they re-make it? It looked very similar. If it was the original, is it on display somewhere?

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It looked smaller than it did in the first movie unless that's just my imagination. I doubt they held on to that prop for 20 years.

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Ha, I was just wondering how they were able to unplug it and move it up to Canada without getting attacked by it.

Least I learned if my computer tries to take over the world, can play solitaire will fast to stop it. Couldn't they also fool Ripley with tic-tac-toe. And does Ripley share the internet just like everyone else?

One bit of truth about this movie, big brother is watching, be darn careful when downloading MP3's.

Oh and you can be fined $250,000.00 with five years in prison if you attempt to copy any portion of this movie. But you can't get your buck back from your video store if you didn't like it.

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I will attempt to diseminated the factual information that which is clearly not factual.

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by - NickD39 on Fri Sep 5 2008 06:37:29

Ha, I was just wondering how they were able to unplug it and move it up to Canada without getting attacked by it.
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First off, to 'unplug' is simple and easy as in the unplugging of any electrical appliance. You just need to diconnect the source of its power. Computers need a source of electrical current and which is obtained one of 2 ways, either directly sourced (live current) or indirectly sourced (battery). If you disconnect the 'live' portion of the curcuit, the static portion will die off (discharge), However performing the presribed disconnection below ought to be the very first disconnect so as not to cause corellative 'network' (see description under 'internet' portion) problems. And once the power is finally removed, it can be safely moves as with any piece of furniture or machinery.

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Least I learned if my computer tries to take over the world, can play solitaire will fast to stop it. Couldn't they also fool Ripley with tic-tac-toe. And does Ripley share the internet just like everyone else?
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'my computer tries to take over the world' implies that one computer could actually do this, in fact one such entity could not, so rest assure that isn't possible. However with a whole 'network' of computers this can theoretically with enough control of resources (vital toward human life) and safeguards (the defenses against a counterattack). 'they' could 'take over' that which this planet relies heavily upon and in doing so exploit such controls that we would all either comply or die.

'can play solitaire will fast to stop it. Couldn't they also fool Ripley with tic-tac-toe' (well I think what your asking is the actual theory behind usage of solitaire and tic-tac-toe in defeating of WOPR/Ripley)...Well in a word, distraction. Through this distraction the gainful grip on that which WOPR/Ripley controlled could be obtained because if their innate ability to maintain only limited resources consecutively. If you open a series of resource hogging programs on your computer in rapid succession or all at the same time you'd get the jist of it. WOPR/Ripley did have limits to which they were bound to through constuction.

'And does Ripley share the internet just like everyone else?' Well!!! No not directly ...and Yes, in as much as through whatever means the President or Secretary of Defense have control over said defensive measures, plus the fact that most communications are on some type of network. Moreover most computers on the internet are connected to still other computers and not necessarily connected to one single such entity. Internet networks are either Wide Area Networks (WAN) and/or Local Area Networks (LAN) that consist of any of computers interconnected to still more computers. Those WANs & LANs only act like singlular entities. America Online is a great example of a WAN. A P2P (peer-to-peer) network would be indicative of a computer directly connected to another computer and therefore pretty closed off from outward traffic, however its the most basic of networks. WOPR/Ripley are more likely connected via peer-to-peer version of networking than a 'connected to the internet' versioning. So in fact, WOPR/Ripley are/were not directly connect or accessible on/from the Internet. I posted this in layman's terms so if you wish to know more of how all these networks interact with each other try googling 'networking' or read some books on netwoking.

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One bit of truth about this movie, big brother is watching, be darn careful when downloading MP3's.
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I don't know about the 'downloading MP3's', but someone's has been watching us all since the 1950s, where do you think junk mail came from? And Big Brother has been able to observe via our goverment channels (Social Services, Social Security, DMV, etc.,).

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Oh and you can be fined $250,000.00 with five years in prison if you attempt to copy any portion of this movie. But you can't get your buck back from your video store if you didn't like it.
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NOW this one is completely false!!! By way of copyright law, YOU the OWNER may make copy for archival or backup purposes, but YOU may not distribute or sell such copies. If this had been the case then we never would have had VHS, Laser Discs, DVDs, etc., ...because the copyright is bound to the original form to which the copyright was written. If it was written for celluloid print its bound to the celluloid print. Same goes for any forms that followed. DVD are the exection because of the new DMR laws, however the former has been the only successful and enforcible part of the law for a very long time.

Copyright Law of the United States of America: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#501

Copyright infringement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

FAQ (and Answers) about Piracy or Copyright Infringement: http://www.chillingeffects.org/piracy/faq.cgi#QID141

Copyright Tutorial: http://ogc.caltech.edu/copyright_tutorial.htm


Dislike what UR viewing _what UR hearing _whatever's happening! U could go elsewhere or turn it off

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You will attempt to do what to the what now? Run that first sentence past an English teacher, or an English speaker at the minimum.

Good lord, NickD39 was making jokes, you must be a damned laugh riot in person.

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Why am I being graded? You really want to know what I think ...why don't you take you're grammatical a$$ down the road a piece, troll

Dislike what UR viewing _what UR hearing _whatever's happening! U could go elsewhere or turn it off

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Pity that disconnecting the power didn't work in Terminator.... haha

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Yeah as a computer lover I would have at least kept it clean and in running order but thats just me. My dad had an old 386 and 486 from the late 80's, I kept the 486 up and running until 2001 when I tried to install the hard drive on my newer computer. That fcked it up and it never worked again. I don't know where those computers are today but if he still has them Id fix them up and keep them around just for the hell of it. To me they are classics just like old classic cars.

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In the DVD's audio commentary, they say it's NOT the original prop.

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I think the original was made of pine and plywood, and if memory serves they used the Apple II computer for the character display and stereo equipment to make the lights blink. It was scrapped after filming ended and was thrown in a dumpster. There have been other reproductions, one notably for a 2006 AT&T commercial. This replacement prop really looks smaller to me but I'm no set dressing expert.

When the words

GREETINGS, PROFESSOR FALKEN

appeared with that voice and all the lights started flashing that saved the movie for me. Or at least saved it enough for me to finish it.

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If you want some history and trivia about the computers used go to this link

http://www.imsai.net/Movies/WarGames.htm#WOPR

Mike Fink was 'Wargames' Special Effects Supervisor.

MIKE FINK - Well, the WOPR was broken up for scrap and I retrieved some of the electronics. There really wasn't much to it. The display went back to the fellow who built it (see below). To correct Sellam [Ismail], it was not a backlit liquid crystal display, it was a flourescent matrix, similar to a lot of segmented alphanumeric displays at the time. It was essentially a large flat glass envelope with some sort of noble gas and some sort of anode/cathode arrangement/addressing scheme that made individual dots glow. (Damn! That's it! The guy who designed and built that display was Lowell Noble! He died a few years back, but he was another great guy. If I remember correctly, I think that one of Lowell's contributions to life on Earth was as a member of the team that designed the tritium trigger that made fusion bombs possible. Always hard to square with my experience of him.) Lowell did do some experimenting with LCD's for color displays in the mid 80's, and developed a full color laser projector that was the first I had ever seen (also mid-80's). In fact, I didn't see anything to equal it until the late 90's.

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