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Nope. I don't think it's Steve Zahn because maybe he'd be more annoyed with the break up, but it could've been.
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I thought they laid it out fairly obviously when Zahn said "I just feel like it was me who got you into this mess..." or something along those lines.
And I <i>know</i> you're meant to think he's referring to the cleaning crime scenes job but I think it's pretty clear he's referring to both.
I was hoping for something more from this movie. And I think they could have made something amazing if they worked the script a bit more. The heart is there, it's just not front and center enough.
I didn't think it was obvious at all--and many people did not interpret it that way.
I interpreted that comment to mean that he felt guilty for marrying Heather rather than Rose, who was rather stupidly in love with him. By continuing the affair with the Zahn character, Rose closes her life to better options. That's what I thought he meant.
The story leaves the possibility that he is the father open--he is so emotionally unavailable that I suppose he could be. But it's not obvious.
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I interpreted that comment to mean that he felt guilty for marrying Heather rather than Rose, who was rather stupidly in love with him. By continuing the affair with the Zahn character, Rose closes her life to better options. That's what I thought he meant.
I agree with you. The other reason I thought that Oscar's father was someone else was Rose's speech to Winston near the end when she says she is great at getting men to fall for her, but not to commit to her. Men, plural. I believe that Oscar's father was another guy who was interested in sleeping with her, but once she got pregnant, wanted nothing to do with her or the kid. I assumed that sometime after that was when Rose and Mac started their affair.
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Hm, well I thought it was Mac because when Oscar had to leave school, she risked calling him and getting caught by Heather. If he wasn't his father, why would she call him about it? If she came right out and mentioned the cleaning job, I wouldn't question it, but she doesn't.
Something about that scene made me believe that Mac was his father...an emotionally detached one.
Yes. I came to the same conclusion. When she called Mac about Oscar, there seemed to be an understanding that Mac should have a special interest beyond his interest in Rose. There are alot of little clues like this in the movie that indicate a much deeper back story that what we see. It makes me want to go and rewatch Little Miss Sunshine again.
shareI think you are 100% correct. I also think Mac got her pregnant when they were dating in high school, probably right at the end of their senior year. Then he dumps her and marries Heather.
shareI thought at at first but now I'm not sure. If he was the father and she had been going out with him, then her sister and father would know. Wouldn't they be pressing her to get maintenance out of him in that case?
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Hm, well I thought it was Mac because when Oscar had to leave school, she risked calling him and getting caught by Heather. If he wasn't his father, why would she call him about it?
I didn't take that as a sign that Mac was the father. I took it as, the real dad is nowhere in the picture, and Mac is the closest thing to a boyfriend that she has, so that is who she would call if she has a crisis. And he didn't appreciate being called at home.
Their affair is shown as just an affair, just meeting in motels for quick sex. No real romance. To believe Mac is the father, we'd have to believe that she got pregnant by him, he never had anything to do with the kid, but she is content to just keep meeting him for quick sex. Most women would not go for that. It's more credible to me that they were an item in HS, they went their separate ways afterward with him marrying Heather and her getting in the relationship that produced Oscar but did not last, and sometimes after that they started up their affair.
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Ok... reading these comments makes me pretty sure that Mack is the father.
1) When they're in bed together Rose asks Mack "why did you choose Heather"? So, maybe they dated in highschool and Mack chose Heather over the girl he was sleeping with and got pregnant. That make sense, because Mack seems very attached to Rose - "You know I don't think that about you" - he's very sweet to her.
2) Rose does call Mack about Oscar getting in trouble at school
3) Mack feeling bad that he got Rose "into this mess" and offers to pay for real estate classes
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My theory is that Mac is Oscar's father. Reason- Rose calls Mac when Oscar gets kicked out of school. Okay so she calls Mac and his daughter answers the phone. His daughter is about the same age as Oscar.
When Rose and Mac are in the hotel room she asks him.. Why did you pick Heather over me???
My theory to that is Mac got them both pregnant at the same time and he chose Heather over Rose. (They obviously have argued about this time and time again as he gets annoyed and ready to leave)
Nah, I think it was obvious that he's the father.
shareI agree. I really think it could go either way.
shareI interpreted the phone scene a different way also. Just because she called Mac regarding Oscar doesn't mean he's the father. I think she only called him because it was an emergency. Plus, he was the one who mentioned that crime scene cleaners get paid good money. She was basically calling him to get more info on the job and hopefully some leverage into the business opportunities. I think she just mentioned Oscar so that he'd know she was only calling him at home because it was really important. I didn't believe him to have any relation to Oscar. Also, if he were the father he would then be obligated to help her. I think if he were the dad he would have just been like "Look, I'll pay for his private schooling." It just doesn't make sense to me and I agree with the other poster that Rose probably wouldn't stand for him to continue an affair with her but not have any role in Oscar's life.
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I think it's pretty obvious that Oscars father is the dude who kills himself with a shotgun in the beginning of the movie.
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My theory is that Mac is Oscar's father. Reason- Rose calls Mac when Oscar gets kicked out of school. Okay so she calls Mac and his daughter answers the phone. His daughter is about the same age as Oscar.
When Rose and Mac are in the hotel room she asks him.. Why did you pick Heather over me???
My theory to that is Mac got them both pregnant at the same time and he chose Heather over Rose. (They obviously have argued about this time and time again as he gets annoyed and ready to leave)
Anyone agree??
Interesting POV my friend.
By the previews it seemed Mac was the father, but the movie makes it go either way.
the problem with this theory is that it makes Rose even more naive (I mean stupid) than what she already is, I mean having an affair with a married man is one thing, but getting preggo and then guy gives a fok and you keep screwing him is just stupid.
But yeah probably he got both pregnant and obviously stayed with the wife.
I was surprised to his reaction towards the breakup though, normally this type of affairs dont end well.
It took me awhile and I still don't know for sure, but I am guessing it was Mac.
shareI think it was Mac, and the clues in the movie point MORE towards Mac than against him.
The most obvious clue was the phone call she made after Oscar got kicked out of school. Even if Mac was her quasi-boyfriend, you don't make such a call to your married lover regarding your son, especially if the son belongs to someone else.
Two, she contiues a relationship with Mac despite his emotional indifference towards her and the fact he keeps lying to her about leaving Heather. IMO she does this for two reasons - one, because she longs for a better life and being in a relationship with Mac (albeit a sexual one) makes her feel better about herself, and two because she's hoping he'll eventually leave Heather to be with her and Oscar.
Three, as I pointed out it's quite clear that Mac is mostly indifferent towards her emotionally, which is why he stands her up, lies to her, and doesn't seem bothered too much when she breaks up with him. Yet, she's quite emotional and upset over her relationship with Mac, even when she decides to break it off. To me she'd only react that way if there was something more at stake for her other than sex.
That's how I saw it anyway.
Mac isn't the father. Anyone who thinks so is wrong. It's obvious he's not the father.
shareMac isn't the father. Anyone who thinks so is wrong. It's obvious he's not the father.
I'm so confused about this. There were times while I was watching the movie that I was sure he was and times when I was sure he wasn't. I liked that they left it open, but I feel like it is important to the story. If Oscar is Mac's kid, that completely changes the way the audience would view the relationship. If Mac is his father, does his wife Heather even know that Oscar exists? Or does she know Mac's the father?
shareIt is obvious. Why does he have to be the father? Give me one shred of evidence that he's the father. The only thing I see people clinging to is that she called him when Oscar got kicked out of school. So what? She needed a job, and her own deranged mind, she probably thought he was more than some dude she was having an affair with.
shareIt is never revealed, but I believe that it is some unknown guy (not Mac) that is Oscar's father. Rose and Mac clearly dated in high school, but obviously broke up long enough for him to begin dating and marry Heather. It was my assumption that Rose met another guy during their break-up and conceived Oscar. Then, she reconnected with Mac and they began to have the affair we see in the film. Of course, it is just as possible that Mac is Oscar's father; that is just how I interpreted the film when I first watched it.
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I mentioned in another thread that I read Roger Ebert's review and that he says Oscar's father is Mac, her lover/boyfriend. He says that he fathered her child, but married someone else. He was a high-school quarterback and she was a cheerleader. I think that implies they were probably dating in high-school.
Anyway, that's Roger Ebert's opinion and he is an insightful movie critic.
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If Mac is the father, that would make me a lot less sympathetic toward Rose. She should be fighting harder for financial support. I don't think it was Mack.
...and I am just going to have to feel this way until I DON'T feel this way ANYMORE!
The movie did not reveal anything about Oscar's father!!!
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