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I dont understand the ending, Please explain.


It seems at the end when one eye and the kid are facing the indians, one eye comes up and then they kill him. They pan back and the indians are standing their all still like nothing happened. Did the boy imagine one eye and is he even real or is he the kids imagination? There is never any body or anything.

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one eye is real... the indians were standing still because they had surrounded him, then they savagely beat him... then i guess they are standing there partially wondering if there are more people they have to kill... they see its a boy and i guess don't feel the need to kill him... go to wikipedia and look up the movie, lol

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I have a different take. If you re-watch the ending it cuts to him disappearing in the water with the boulders he built earlier on the river bank. It's my feeling that when he was building those boulders earlier was when he perhaps sacrificed himself to the water. He had a vision of himself getting beaten by the savages and chose not to face that or put the child through it, so for him, his story ended there. What unfolded after that was a reflection of the clan of men breaking down under their own madness. They had to blame someone for their predicament so they blamed One-eye and we see that manifested in the last few murders/fight scenes. The remaining men are just following the boy. He is the only one communicating with them. Perhaps that's why the clan leader was so angry that he shanked his lifelong friend because the friend chose to follow the boy....

Just my take. It sure was open to interpretation. A BEAUTIFUL film, with a haunting soundtrack and breathtaking cinematography, but not a whole lot got accomplished. But it was a visceral trip for sure.

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disappearing into the water could just be his acceptance of death/baptism rolled into one though.

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I think it all boils down to the dialogue that the chieftan says in part II, something to the effect that 'he is hate. Thats why he never loses' (paraphrasing). In the end, he loses because he loves the boy, and is no longer filled with hate, and therefore chooses to lose the fight and sacrifice himself for the boy. At least, thats how I saw it. I figure the walking into the water shot is metaphorical for his death. Could be wrong, of course.

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i'm going with sacrifice too, since that was the title.

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IMHO this is the most likely explanation; it's how I interpreted the ending too.

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That makes sense. Good job

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To continue that idea, I saw the water scene as a cleansing / baptism / reborn kind of thing. Then willingly sacrificing himself for the boy. Because the film seemed to play so heavy on the ironies of religion and the way it was spread, I think that it was showing that even the most empty and hateful souls ( One eye ) can be changed / reborn etc. and thus sacrificing himself for the boy who represented purity or innocent life. So in the end, One Eye was more pure than the Viking Christians who were more driven by pride and power.

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I love how you can just casualy call the indians "savages"
and whats even funnier or worst everyone else is just cool with it too.
and if they were africans and someone typed N*$$%rs every boby would be going bananas about it. and im refering to gboxerlove comments

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Maybe they assumed the islands were the Savage Islands, thus decided the natives were Savages. Comparing the use of the word savage to *beep* is the same as me calling you racist for mentioning blacks and bananas in the same thread.

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I love how you can just casualy call the indians "savages"


The group seen in this movie are savages. Maybe you should look up the definition of the word as it pertains to a group of people.

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i doubt the natives would have fared any better if they had sailed to where one eye and the crusaders came from. I think the comment was towards how the term savage, whether it fits whatever set definition you refer to, is a little negative. Many in the movie had savage behavior.

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It's irrelevant. It's not insulting because it's factual. They were savages in every definition of the word.

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I agree. They were savages. They killed and hunted them before they knew they were even a threat.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/savage

1. Not domesticated or cultivated; wild: savage beasts of the jungle.
2. Not civilized; barbaric: a people living in a savage state.
3. Ferocious; fierce: in a savage temper.
4. Vicious or merciless; brutal: a savage attack on a political rival. See Synonyms at cruel.
5. Lacking polish or manners; rude.
n.
1. A person regarded as primitive or uncivilized.
2. A person regarded as brutal, fierce, or vicious.
tr.v. sav·aged, sav·ag·ing, sav·ag·es
1. To assault ferociously.
2. To attack without restraint or pity: The critics savaged the new play.

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Exactly. I'm curious what definition of the word the people opposed to my point of view are using, because it's a definition I have never heard of.

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okidoll821 -

It should be noted that the Norse Christians in the film were shown to be quite savage themselves.

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as i said many in the movie had savage behavior, leading it to be a pot calling the kettle black thing. As we see the travelers came from a world that was 'savage.'

The behavior exhibited in the little time we see the natives would be rather typical of most societies confronted with unknown warring people arriving out of nowhere. It tended to be extreme violence or fawning over them for their god-like prowess which usually lead to them being conquered.

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i'vre seen king of bob posts before. Basically if you dont agree with his opinion then you are wrong.

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I love how you can just casualy call the indians "savages"
and whats even funnier or worst everyone else is just cool with it too.


I love how you can just casually call the aboriginals "indians"



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My bad dawg, you already called him out for that haha

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If we are pointing out offensive statements, referring to Native Americans as "Indians" is also offensive (at least considered so by many here in the States...it's equivalent to referring to African-Americans as "Negroes" or "Colored.") Just sayin'

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I love how you just casually call natives "indians". They are clearly not in India.

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West Indies.....hence, Indians.

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They are savages. Cry more.

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The term is Primatives,or Natives, and we all know what the future was for them.

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I love it how you see an indigenous tribe and just refer to them as Indians.

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They call 'em savages because they use stone tools (remember the arrow?). They were "primitives".

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The idea that One-Eye can see the future is well-established by the time you get to the jug drinking scene; the main example is that his visions told him where to find the arrowhead with which he originally freed himself. During the jug vision (and to a lesser extent earlier) he saw his death by the natives, so he built that cairn of rocks for himself on that tiny island in the river after the vision. He then followed landmarks from past visions (the rock slope, etc.) to get to where he died. So the scene at the end was his spirit entering the cairn he built.

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I think that One-Eye was in fact the human incarnate of Odin, whether or not he knew it. When it is said early on that he is filled with hate, perhaps its hatred for what he has seen on earth, or hatred for man itself. Throughout the film, the only one who truly has his back is the boy, which may eat through his hatred and lead him into acceptance for one person at least. Therefore, he sacrifices himself and returns to Valhalla to save the one person he actually was able to care about.

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"Savages"? They are no more savage than the Vikings are themselves, in fact probably much less. Earlier in the film you see the Vikings in a village they have pillaged and probably killed or driven off all the men while the women are tied up naked and enslaved. I'm always amazed at how it is percieved by so many that any brown-skinned people with sticks and spears are automatically savages, while white men with steel armor and swords are automatically more "civilized", no matter what they are actually doing. This is cultural bigotry at it's most pernicious. Let us not forget that the worst "savagery" in the history of the world has happened in the 20th century in the heart of "civilized" Europe.

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Amen to that. Had to scroll way too far to find that one sensible comment.

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Savages has more than one meaning.

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He had a vision of himself getting beaten by the savages and chose not to face that or put the child through it, so for him, his story ended there.


That's possible. I viewed the rocks as a cairn, a monument that said "I was here and this is all that's left", a memorial. Then when he died, that was him sacrificing himself for the boy and discovering peace. Think a Jesus/Odin dying for others kind of thing. Which made for a really interesting contrast between the Christians who weren't Christian like and the Pagan who wasn't a barbarian. He was a better Christian than they were.

All depends which thread you pick first though, there's so many interpretations for this film.

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"Chapter VI The Sacrifice" Clearly One Eye sacrifices himself so that the boy might live. Even One Eye knows the odds are so stacked against him that he has no chance (unlike on the boat).

The ending is strange to me since I think the Indians might kill the boy anyway. If they don't kill the boy then, well, he's a boy in a foreign land with no food, no shelter, and no one to protect him.

The only real chance the kid has is that the Indians adopt him, or that they let him live and the next group of whites that arrive manage to survive Indian attacks long enough to adopt him.

However I don't think we're supposed to think about it this hard.

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this is plausible. it was common for Indian tribes to adopt white children after they had slaughtered the parents. They kid could follow the band of Indians until they accepted him in the tribe or they could have used him as a slave.


watch this space

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The Hero (One-eye) begins the story as a slave who struggles for survival even though his existence is one of pain and horror.

I believe the ending (his laying down of weapons and peaceful acceptance of death) is intended as an ultimate release in direct contrast to the state in which we find him at the beginning.

In between slavery and death, he experiences a period where purpose, destiny, and his place among other men are drawn into question. Overall I think the film is a mash-up of minimalism and existentialism.

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I took a religious angle from the last sequence. The "New Jerusalem" expounded by the leader of the expedition was a physical manifestation of conquest and conversion. One-eye's sacrifice was clearly, at least in my view, more tied to an existential spirituality that was attuned to, paraphrasing Christ, "a kingdom not of this earth."

It was one of the more moving endings I have seen and while it didn't come out of nowhere given how the plot unfolded, it was surprising at a level.

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Here my take:

At the end the boy takes a drink of water and states "it's salt". They both then look over across the water to see a body of land. I believe this land to be the one which they originally sailed from but hadn't know of this because of the fog. This is a explained by the lack of current, they hadn't traveled far. In my opinion the ending isn't great, but it's suitable. He sacrificed himself to save the boy after showing him the way back. Showing a shot of him going into the water was just symbolism for him absolving himself before meeting death, perhaps using the stones as an alter to the gods.

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I think one eye realized that fighting the indians was a lost cause and more likely to end in the boy being killed. If he removed himself, he removed any threat to the indians, and correctly assumed they would ignore the boy.

The boy's plan was to build a boat and sail back home. I like to think that is what he did. He wasn't a boy like some city kid from today, I think he could survive and eventually get the job done and return home.

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This is how I under stood the ending:

In the beginning, there was man and nature.

Then came men bearing crosses and drove the heathens to the fringes of the earth.

The indians started to kill of the christans after they entered their graveyard. They were entering a holy place of the indians. The indians, a nature people, are the agents of nature. Nature, which is always very harsh around the christians, offering them none of it's riches is furious on the christians. Maybe for their arrogance and for them killing off and enslaving the people that worshipped nature.

The christians had brought the fury of Nature upon themself. Thus, One-Eye gave himself as an offering to nature so that the boy, the only person that he loved( maybe for the boy looking after him when he was a prisoner, or maybe he was the child within One-Eye brought materialised into the real world and that's the reason he knew what One-Eye was thinking) could live on.

Thus the title of the final chapter, The Sacrifice.

After having pleased nature by giving is own life for others( ironicly like the man Jesus himself) the indians work were done and they returned to their land. The boy, still has a little of One-Eye within him and that is what we see in the final shot.

This is my analysis of the film.

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I just want to say this is a great thread, thank you all for your contributions...I feel like I understand it a lot better now. A fascinating film, for sure, and superviolent...


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Right that's a very probable interpretation. The meaning of the discover of the saltwater is a very powerful one i think. And they can't really have travelled that far without any water or food supplies so they may really have seen their own land not that far away. But on the other hand then it's not possible that there were Indians, so they had to travel far.
You can interprete the movie in a rational or a very symbolic away. Either way his dead was a sacrifice and the boy didn't get killed for one eye found his peace i think.

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I can't help but see One-eye as Odin, which would then make him a metaphor for heathenry. Upon meeting the Christians, they knew they feared him, but didn't really try to stop him. As the plot progressed they saw him cut down men without mercy and often talked about how they think he was taking them with him to hell. The small band of Christians with One-eye in this way came across to me as a way of briefly describing the conflicts between Christians and Pagans in this time period. The Christians leaned heavily on their God and had the superior numbers, but were still terrified by the resilient brutality of the warriors from the North.

In history, the Pagans were stopped not directly, but just in general by the overwhelming growth of nations that they couldn't just bully. One-eye has visions of the Indians beating him to death throughout the film, and it happens at the end. We all know the Vikings sailed to 'Vinland' before Christopher Columbus, and while there they couldn't brace the conditions, waged war with the natives, and had a generally poor time trading. They never settled because they all died.

I think One-eye represented the might and raw power of the heathens. The Christians represent the feelings Christianity had at a whole in that time period when relating to the heathens. The visions and eventual Indian beatdown was, like One-eye and the Christians, a metaphor for the heathens branching off, biting off more than they can chew, and eventually being stomped by a world that they didn't understand and couldn't push around.

I loved this film. I'm sick of elaborate costumes, hordes of soldiers with elite gear, beautiful women, and everyone speaking in a light British accent as a way of saying "I'm not American, but I'm also not from a real defined country." This film was all about the isolation of a cold and mysterious world, the clashing of cultures that are light years apart, and the power religion and fear can play on a mind that doesn't exist in a society when any and all communication and information is on hand. It was the ancient world done right, in one sentence.

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I agree with bercawr. Especially the last paragraph.

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I like both bercawr's and AgentSmith's interpretations.

As I watched it, I simply reflected on how easily one can lose one's bearings, delve into self-delusion, or focus on rewards to the exclusion of accepting the experience itself as being worthwhile.

The son-less father absolves himself of guilt at the hilltop by accepting his journey was to find inner peace, not a piece of some treasure.

The film was gripping without laying out a plot -- Towards the end when I realized they were probably in North America and things would not sort themselves out, I was glad that the storyline would not end predictably.

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I never really expected much from the film, just looked at it with an open mind. Although I did not understand all of it, the answers here provide interesting points of view into what I missed in the film. I enjoyed it overall.

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I loved this film. I'm sick of elaborate costumes, hordes of soldiers with elite gear, beautiful women, and everyone speaking in a light British accent as a way of saying "I'm not American, but I'm also not from a real defined country." This film was all about the isolation of a cold and mysterious world, the clashing of cultures that are light years apart, and the power religion and fear can play on a mind that doesn't exist in a society when any and all communication and information is on hand. It was the ancient world done right, in one sentence.
Nicely put. I admit most of the film went over my head because I disengaged early on but kept watching it to the end. I'll need to watch it again with what you've written in mind.
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All the takes on the ending are entertaining and (sadly) smarter than
what you can read on many other movie's boards.
Here's my take: Assuming the boy or Oneeye aren't real is someone's
imagination running wild. It's not Fight club. The boy is speaking for
the mute warrior for the whole movie. (We never know if what the boy tells
is truely what Oneeye thinks but he never disagrees.) It seems Oneeye is a prophet/medium
and has visions. The boy talks of the Vikings' and his own futures. He will build a ship and
sail home. That part is not seen in the movie itself but may come true after all. When Mads
and the boy are surrounded Mads seems to think the boy might survive if he surrenders himself.
The Indians are not killing the boy. He's no threat. And might as well die
alone on his own if nature doesn't provide what he needs to survive. The
Indians act like agents of nature and the film becomes full circle as the opening
of the movie tells the audience in the beginning there was only man and nature.
Along the Likes of Thin Red Line and Brave New World, Valhalla
Rising works pretty well. Sorry for eventually bad English, I'm German.

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That's pretty much my take on it too. Good film. Good English, Herr batnbreakfast.

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