People are gonna use what they are going to use, it's not a crazy war that's gonna make things better.
Gonna disagree here. If people want marijuana legalized, fine whatever. But legalizing crack cocaine or heroin? Have you seen what those can do to a person? I know "personal responsibility" and all that, but heroin is not something you can just do as a recreational drug, it's not something you can easily kick either. According to some stats one-fourth of every person who has even tried heroin become addicted.
There's no way I can say that cartels trying to push heroin into the country should just be allowed to skim profits off legalized heroin as an alternative. That would be terribly irresponsible from the Government's end.
Actually a lot of innocent people die, and nothing happens, they die from lost bullets, for discrimination or worst. They literally die for nothing, it's not going to change. It's actually a movie about police brutality, corruption, legalizing drugs.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's a movie about legalizing drugs so much as it is a movie about the complexities of drugs, the drug trade, the corruption that ensues and the people who suffer from it (from top to bottom). There's no real easy answer here and I can't say that legalizing all manner of dangerous drugs would instantly make the war on drugs cease or the violence around drugs drop. More than anything I would imagine it would get worse, as addicts would know that they could easily rob corner stores that carry crack/cocaine/heroin instead of having to grab it out of alleyways and crack houses.
There's the issue of dealing with both drunk drivers and high drivers. I don't see how that would make things easier on cops, loved ones or people involved in accidents resulting from people on drugs.
And then there's the issue of people being at risk of gray market thugs attempting to kill or steal drug shipments to undercut the market value. Anyone driving those trucks or transferring the goods are now at risk from local mafia.
I just don't see any upside in legalizing drugs. That's not to say that I don't see the harm and the danger in the current war on drugs. It's a complicated situation.
And for those who thought it was too violent, I'm sorry, but it's pretty spot on, maybe it even lacked violence. It's really sad.
Yes, completely agreed here. I don't think the film was too violent at all, and paid a lot of respect to the actual violence that occurs in those situations and areas.
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bestpartof_thetrip
8 years ago
I'm sorry what I meant was decriminalization of drugs. It shouldn't be treated as a crime but as a health issue. Here in Brasil we have crack but we dont have heroin, and if we do it's something very hidden and doesn't get any attention. Our biggest problem is crack, cocaine and marijuana. We also have LSD, MD, and those things, but the war you saw on the movie was on marijuana and cocaine. I don't think cocaine should be legal because it's a very sad drugs, so is crack, but I do think it should be treated as a health issue. And because they wanna hit the source (drug dealers) a lot of innocent people die, and I mean A LOT. A lot of people die because they are black, or poor, or live in a favela. It's worst than the movie, people simply dissapear, you don't even know what happens. And it's like they said in the movie, we are sorrounded by more than 600 favelas, it's like hydra man, you cut one head, two more grow. Their technique is not working, we should change something there and I think the movie is about that.
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cyguration
8 years ago
I'm sorry what I meant was decriminalization of drugs. It shouldn't be treated as a crime but as a health issue.
Oh well in that regards I wholeheartedly agree.
I think decriminalizing drugs is definitely the right step. Instead of throwing every pot smoker in prison they need to invest in the infrastructure to help addicts come down off of addicting drugs, as well as focus on implementing programs to help enforcers deal with victims of drug abuse instead of perpetuating the awful cycle of throwing abusers and users in prison while kids grow up to partake in the same lifestyle because either one or both of their parents are in jail for the same problem.
And because they wanna hit the source (drug dealers) a lot of innocent people die, and I mean A LOT.
I'm not really sure what the solution is to this. I know if I were a mayor I would NOT want any crack houses in my suburban districts at all. But at the same time, how do you avoid the violence that usually comes with turf wars and the debasement of drug dealing?
Their technique is not working, we should change something there and I think the movie is about that.
Okay, yeah... in that regards I do agree. There's too much money in the drug trade for it to just go away peacefully. The war on drugs isn't really helping matters, though. Decriminalizing drugs could definitely help victims of abuse and victims of addiction. Stopping the spread of drugs from dealers and suppliers would need a different alternative, though. And then there's the problem of the cartels. I'm not really how you fix those problems without perpetuating the violence currently taking place throughout a lot of South America.
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bestpartof_thetrip
8 years ago
Hhahaha right? I had to look for the word in english cause I only knew it in my language.
I don't know either, it's a very complicated matter and I can't think in a short term solution. All I can think about is investing in education a lot, public schools here are a mess. I think education is the key to everything but on the other hand you'll always have people wanting to make "easy" money.
This year is an election year and one of the candidates to be mayor is Freixo, who was the inspiration to the character Fraga in Elite Squad 2, with him comes a lot of hope. I really hope he wins, he's really smart and open minded to new solutions, he's all about human rights, so I really think things will get better if he's elected and his competition is a bunch of thugs, really corrupted people. I think this movie brings a very interesting discussion, that's why I love it.
I think they need to get smarter, I think there's a lot of men and firepower but not much intelligence involved in it. What they are doing now, is not helping I wish it was, but I think they should hit the real source, who is actually cultivating and selling this drugs to the drug dealers, the cartels and etc. As long as they keep going to the favelas and killing a bunch of people, they wont accomplish anything. The enemy isn't one or twenty it's thousands if they don't hit the right spot, they will never ever stop this. In USA there's a lot of drugs too, but you don't see cops running into the guetto torturing and shooting everyone until they find the baddest SOB on the block just so another one can be born.
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