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It's set in the future! Do you agree?


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My friend and I saw this and were discussing some of the things that happened and we decided there were many hints that it was actually set at some time in the future, because:

There were those big white Geodisic Dome things at the beginning in the snow (looking like giant golf balls).

The wind up radio - a quite modern invention, but it was VERY beaten up and antique looking (same buy less so for the outboard motor).

Saiva's boyfriend was Indian (Asian Indian) and the other members of the tribe that were killed by the soldiers were of different races. I got the impression they were there on some kind of commune/retreat/escape, suggesting future to me.

The behaviour of the soldiers +
The "slave" buildings and slaves working, and the soliders clothes (who may have been russian or norwegian I'm not sure) - who had nondescript communist "big brother" type uniforms, not of any modern military. Their behaviour and the killing of the innocent could no way happen now, Perhaps things like that happened in history, even in the 20th century, but not at a time when they had wind up radios!

None of this is conclusive, but it suggests that it is in the future.
What do you think?

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The US military has been "winding up" radios since before WWII. Also of note is that some of the music playing on the radio was from the 40s.

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i thought the wind up radio has only been around for 15 years?

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More likely set in Mongolia, Siberia or someplace similar, not in the future, perhaps in the present. Although wind-up power technology has been in use by the gov't for along time, it has only been recently (last few years) been introduced for consumer use.

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come on guys this is situated in most likely Alaska, for reasons;

1. The climate and terrain
2. norther lights
3. Russian speaking solders, Alaska used to be part of Russian Empire but then it was purchased by US in 1867.

I agree with berger-10 on the time scale

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First (when I only knew the outline of the story) I thought it was Alaska, but after viewing the movie I'd vote for the land around the border between the USSR and Finland, somewhat in the times of the USSR, maybe even not long after the war. The fact that in the movie they speak English vs Russian doesn't mean anything, it's not a Mel Gibson movie and we're not being deceived that characters speak the original languages.

Loki is a Scandinavian name (how interesting that it happens to be the name of the god of mischief in the Nordic mythology...), and there is a population of Swedish people in Finland. And of course if it's Europe, the Russians make far more sense. There were no radios before 1867 so they can't be Russians in Alaska. Besides, the coats of the soldiers seem Soviet not 19th century Russian.

Oh, and as for the aurora borealis (I guess that's what you mean by "northern lights") - it happens in European northlands just as well. The climate is also cold there, and since the movie was shot in Norway, the type of terrain is clearly present in Europe just as well.

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i dont agree with Europe as a location, the tribes dont look European to me, look at Alaska Natives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Native

it is far more likely that Russians stayed there after it was sold and some still attempted to 'clean up' the territory from tribes.

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I rather think it plays in neither future or the past, but in a fictional time.

Different nations and equipment collide in apearingly random order:

The golfball-buildings belong to the ECHELON, and I couldn´t find out when the USA started building them, but they are definately quite modern.

The guy raping Saiva in her younger years had a tattoo on his arm or wrist, reminding of the inmates of Ausschwitz (So it must be after WW2). But he´s wearing an army-necklace in the shape of the US-Army showing a german shepherd (?) or wolf while his comrades speak russian. I couldn´t make out russian uniforms, but I´m no expert. So what was he - a russian jew who joined a Nazi-german subdivision of the US-Army being in allegiance with the russian army?

He states that his people (and i guess we may chose..) want to occupy the land for coal and kill the indigenous population.
So if that happened after WW2, at least I don´t know about it.

The guns used also look quite old-fashioned.
The outbord-enine on the boat looked quite modern, but wikipedia states they exist for already quite some time. So unless anyone knows the precise model..?

I think it´s all fictional, because it´s about the story between mostly the two women, and that could take place anytime. But I admit i found it a bit annoying that so many hints were given regarding the time-setting, when the sum of it made no sense anymore. It distracted from the main-story making belief it might be some real historical setting.

Otherwise the movie was good in my eyes, though far from outstanding.

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Sorry but I find it rather absurd to suggest the Russian soldier rapist must be a Jewish ex-Auschwitz survivor simply because he has a tattoo on his inner arm.

Maybe too much surmise is being added into this stark lonely film. It's simply an intensely brutal drama about living alone in the freezing wastes; Michelle Yeoh's character goes insane.

It purposefully has a timeless and placeless quality to it; we can't really pinpoint the historical period or the geographhical location. Although it's interesting to speculate if it could be set in the future, how does that add to the drama of the human story? I assumed the location was meant to be arctic Scandinavia, where the movie was shot and the historical time period was probably Cold War, due to the attitudes of the Russian speaking characters but either way, I don't think it matters to the story and that's the point.

It's about three tragically lonely people.

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Interesting idea. I had never thought that it was anything other than present day (like the 2000s at least). I was guessing from the meeting of the cultures (Russian, Scandinavia, asian-looking natives) that the movie was set somewhere in northern Yakutia, which would also be consistent with the climate and the exploitation of natural resources (using manual labour, sometimes prisoners or slaves).

The geo-desic domes have been used for a while (commonly since the late 70s) mostly by Soviet and NATO military to hide communications and radar dishes.

The dynamo powered radio looks like a modern (late-90s model) Phillips or Eton emergency and weatherband radio, still commonly available.

The rifle that Loki was going to shoot the deer with looked like an old 7.92 bolt-action Mosin-Nagant variant, and they are very common since the turn of the last century.

The grey uniforms with black facings did not have rank or markings that I recognized. Perhaps they were like a local constabulatory militia or prison guards, though I found it curious that no one had at least one Kalashnikov (the most common firearm in the world esp in that region). My thought was that the Sean Bean character seemed to be pretty comfortable with using violence, and so might have been an escaped convict or something.

The motor on the motorboat was the most curious thing of all. Even the most isolated Yakutians (or Inuits, Aleuts or Athabascans) would know about gas powered motors. Maybe not how to repair or start one, but at least not wonder what it's purpose was. So that is weird.



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I'm undecided as to WHEN, but as for WHERE, a potential clue is the way they say Reindeer, rather than Caribou. So doesn't sound like Alaska to me - my thought during the film was Siberia / Kamchatka.



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The future seems plausible to me. Although I firmly believe the director didn't want us to think of the when, but the where: way up North. It doesn't matter who was fighting who or the actual historical events.

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I think you have to take this movie in a pure fictional sense because Kapadia (the screenwriter) and Maitland (the writer of the book which the movie is based on) all intermixed the time-line, the geographical locations, and the character's race or nationality all together.
Example: when the two women were passing a POW labor camp; you could hear the soldiers talking in Russian. It makes you think it was during the time Alaska was the territory of U.S.S.R. and Saiva & Anja were portrayed as Inuit Indians. Then there's the bad guy that raped Saiva, clearly this soldier was talking in some Scandinavian language and not Russian. And also you see Loki, Saiva, and Anja talking in English with perfect grammar; now do you think a native, cast out from her tribe would really speak fluent English?
Despite this inconsistencies, what matters most is the story - a story about a sense of being betrayed, jealousy, and regret. I think this was what Director Kapadia was trying to put across the audience. Ignore the inconsistencies and you'll appreciate this film.

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I agree with the OP, it's set in the future.

BTW, Far North is the name of a part of Russia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_North_%28Russia%29 known for its labor camps (gulags) and indigenous asian peoples.

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The Extreme North or Far North is a large part of Russia located mainly north of the Arctic Circle and boasting enormous mineral and natural resources. The Far North is known for its extremely harsh climate, and people who work there, other than the indigenous population involved in traditional occupations and inmates of labor camps, used to receive an extra grade of payment, "Northern Bonus", as well as other benefits, including extra vacation, extra disability benefits, extra retirement benefits, and housing benefits.

Approximately 20 million people live in this land, mainly concentrated in towns and settlements along the rivers and in the industrial centres. Only about 180,000 of them belong to approximately 30 small-numbered, aboriginal groups - the indigenous peoples of the North. Their majority live in small villages close to their subsistence areas, where they pursue traditional occupations like reindeer-herding, hunting and fishing.

The white man's conquest of the Russian North, Siberia and the Far East does not stand far behind the attrocities known from other parts of the world. The tsarist intention was to subject the entire northern part of Asia to its rule because of the expected rich natural resources. Peoples were rendered tribute-payers. They were forced to pay a tax, yasak, in exchange for the promise of protection by the Tsarist Empire. Yasak consisted mostly of furs. The often very high tax requirements changed the occupational pattern of many ethnic groups and endangered their subsistence.

The Tsar's order read that the native peoples should be treated respectfully and accommodatingly, while military actions should only be applied against armed revolts. But the local governors and taxmen had their own laws, if any. Historians report continual pillaging and violent encroachment resulting in the extermination of entire nations. A usual procedure to make the native peoples pay yasak was to take hostages, often respected elders. It was also usual to abduct, or buy, and enslave women and children. Tax raids could escalate into pillage and sometimes murder raids. Many times, the entire subsistence basis of a local indigenous group was destroyed, and they died of cold or hunger. In places, the oppression continued into the 19th century.

The oil and gas boom started in the mid-1960s. The largest oil deposits were in the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Area. Enormous forest areas were razed and the land was devastated by careless tracked-vehicle driving; rivers and bogs were polluted, and large areas became worthless for any sort of primary subsistence. In addition to the devastation of nature, the alien workers abused the indigenous population through pillage, theft, killing of reindeer, destruction of sacred sites, even robbery, rape, murder and burning of homes.

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kekkygcm,

Put this on Wikipedia

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Thanks kekkygcm,
I could not have put it better myself!
AK

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Two things I want to point out.

Loki talks about the ice freezing over and being able to walk to the "motherland".

But he also says something about making the walk the next day before it gets "dark".

I don't know exactly where ice freezes over and lets you walk back to Russia, but I do know that it gets dark for a long period of time in Alaska...

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