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stopped watchin after 10 minutes. UNFACTUAL. blahh

posted 17 years ago by Horror-Nes
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Geez, ok, Im a ed gein fan (by fan i mean it interests me what he did. why and all that) but after 10 minutes I had to shut this movie off . why ? u ask. numerous reasons, mainly because it is so UNFACTUAL, just from the first 10 minutes, 1 He never hung girl from hooks when they were alive 2, he wasnt into *Young* (18-25 or whatever they were) girls anyway, he was into older *mother type* women. 3 the photos they shown (the black n whites) ok.. some of them were real, but then they threw in fake pic's to spice it up. Thats about when I said F this, I did scroll through rest of film just to say what was there, I noticed they had a whole story with the young cop... WHY? whats that have to do with gein.. gimme a break. if they didnt title the movie Ed Gein i woulda watched it, but if your gonna make a movie based on someone then make it BASED on that person, geeeeeez. just had to get that of my chest, thanx for reading n comment if you like. ---

I wanna add this if you wanna see a real good movie based on Ed Gein check out Ed Gein starring steve railsback. movie aint action gore packed but it is very factual, from the mental impact eds mom had on him, to the possibley of ed killing his brother, even down to the women he killed (names and everything) and got caught for, more to just watch it!

[–] YankeeDood 17 years ago

It's definitely fiction.

But I read a documented book on Gein and found out that shortly after he was arrested, a young girl of about 14 was missing in Plainfield. They suspected Gein had murdered her, but evidence was lacking so they never prosecuted. The girl was never found either.

Otherwise, yes, Gein went after middle-aged women.

-L31

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[–] weaz3 17 years ago

There was also a dress of a girl found in his home that fit the size of a young girl that had gone missing some 40 miles from Plainfield. Her body was also never found. Also he did not kill his brother his brother died in a brush fire, the land in wisconsin was dry at the time and the woods went up in flames.

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[–] bcents 17 years ago

There was evidence of blunt force trauma to his brother's head. But it was assumed he died fighting the fire.
This movie just stinks done watching it now. stopped a 4mins 6 secs

[–] aeternus_proeliator 16 years ago

Sigh.

No, all the evidence points that he DID kill his brother.

Try again.

[–] Aiwaz69 15 years ago

The death of the brother (from the book I read) is incrediable suspicious...there was a brush fire but the brother wasnt burned and the spot he was found in wasn't burned and they did find blunt trauma to the head and bruises. However, the cops didnt suspect it was Gein because they saw him as a nice meak guy. The only problem is the two women Gein killed he had no problem (though not quite at first) admitting to killing them, even laughing over it, but he never admitt to killing his brother.

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[–] happyreflex 17 years ago

Actually, for a while, Ed did have a friend named Gus who helped him dig up dead people. For more than ten years, an article said. But then he was sent off to an institution, and Ed was all alone.

The real problem with this movie isn't as much the lack of accuracy as the fact that the real story was so much more interesting than this cliché crap.

[–] darkangel2356 17 years ago

i think what could have made the movie much more intresting, was going more in depth the relationship Ed had with his mother.

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[–] ktron70 17 years ago

i've seen some internet articles that mention gus but i've seen the movies ,documentaries a plenty and the 2 top books on gein that say nothing about such a person.from what i've seen gus most likely didn't exist.what do you know about this.

[–] mattyboombattie74 16 years ago

Regarding the issue of Gus, most authentic research done on the Gein case tends to side with the idea that Gus was not a real person. Many online sources claim that Gus was real, and many take that at face value. It is just one of many legends and fables built up around Ed Gein.
Sincere, in-depth research has dispelled many of the rumors, but many are hard to quash.
In regards to the film, it was a waste of time. No authenticiy, no research done on the part of the writers.

[–] nilbog_king 15 years ago

"The real problem with this movie isn't as much the lack of accuracy as the fact that the real story was so much more interesting than this cliché crap." I know happyreflex, thats exactly how I felt. The actual true things ed gein did were so shocking and interesting to hear about without needing to be sensationalised, so why the hell did this movie gloss over the things he really did in favour of portraying a bunch of crap that never really happend and was not as interesting as the stuff that really did happen?

[–] mnbratzdude 17 years ago

i noticed the 911 thing also - in 1957 you could dial a number in the same exchange with 4 digits but i swear he dialed 9-1-1 on the rotary phone . also near the beginning they show a modern butane cigarette lighter which didn't come out until 1970s - most people in that time used Zippos or book matches .
and when the woman at the hardware store is ringing up the purchases the cash register was silent , no mechanical sounds like the registers had then - it used a set of gears and cogs to add up the total and print the reciept - they show a small electric register circa 1980 type .

[–] MissMargoChanning 17 years ago

Thanks for the heads up. I have "The Deranged" and I`ve seen The movie with Steve Railsback, which was pretty close to the actual events except a few things at the end. I think the one with him in it was the best. I saw this new one at my movie rental store. It was in the new releases. I was more than a bit curious, but I figured I`d check out good old IMDb before I rented it. I`m glad I did. From what you describe, it sounds like a bit of the old "Bait and Switch." Use Gein`s name....Tell a different story. I`ll leave that one alone!

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[–] IseCreme 16 years ago

To clarify the earlier remark someone made about Gein never killing men.

Two men that hired Gein to be thier guide while hunting disappeared and were never found.

As to him only going after older women. There were some fresher body parts found according to some things Ive read which were not matched to any recently buried bodies and two young ladies were missing in areas where gein would have been at the time.

Also a white car which was witnessed during one of the younger ladies disappearances was found on Geins property.

Oh and yes I got to the part where gein was bullying his sidekick and shut it off right there since by all accounts gein was a timid mild mannered guy. I had a feeling if I watched anymore Id just get angry at the distorting of facts.

[–] MESpiegel 16 years ago

Amen!

"Based upon an actual story"? The only thing I saw that was factual was the lead characters name -- Ed Gein.

The man's deeds were psychotic and evil enough with what really happened, so why fabricate all that baloney?

And the *acting*? Arrgghh!

This movie, if it can be called that, is just pure crap. Don't waste precious moments of your finite life watching it.

[–] sixtieschick1 16 years ago

Agreed! I really thought this movie would give more backround on the actual events, not just twist them into another Hollywood horror flick. Don't get me wrong, I love Texas Chainsaw Masacre, and Silence of the Lambs and Psycho are 2 of my favorite movies. While these movies were also billed as "based on actual events" they made it rather clear that they were really not about Ed Gein. When I see a title like Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainsfield, I expect it to be about Ed Gein... not a twisted story that has a few of the same names in it but almost no other facts.

[–] phillipsc42 16 years ago

I've read a lot about Ed Gein and agree the movie is a loose interpretation of the actual Gein story. Kane Hodder is not a good choice to portray a fragile middle-aged man.

A good movie based on the Ed Gein story is Deranged. I would recommend this movie to anyone.

[–] cdngo 15 years ago

Okay....the original poster of this thread beat me by ten minutes. As I stopped twenty minutes into the movie. I read a book about Ed Gein, as well as doing a little research some years ago and again, after twenty minutes just couldn't take any more of this garbage.

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[–] soloniteflyer 15 years ago

I cannot believe I sat through this horrible portrayl of Ed Gein. Honestly,this movie was so difficult to watch.I was so frustated during the whole film.I wondered during the film if any one else felt as frustrated as I did while watching it.I kept hoping it would somehow get better.What a waste of time.I would hope there would be a more factual movie based on Ed Gein I could watch.If anyone replys to this and knows about a different movie please let me know.Thanks

[–] wendylady13 15 years ago

omG!!!! I have to agree with you on this one. I've watched a lot of movies that are "based"on actual events, but... BS was that based on Ed Gein. I have read quite a few books and articles about him, and if anyone reads this comment, please trust me when I say, this movie has nothing to do with Ed Gein. He didn't even look like that or act like that. he was meek, wimpy, a momma's boy and just didn't give off the impression he could hurt a fly. This guy in the movie, which I like very much, he plays a great bad guy, but this??? no way. i didn't even make it as far as Horror-Nes did, made it about 3 min into it. what a crock!!! if a director out there reads this, I'm giving you a challenge. PLEASE make a movie that actually depicts this man's life.

[–] hatr 10 years ago

It seems silly to call a move Ed Gein and then deviate so jMuch from the facts and insert so much about the cops