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FAKE TURKISH IDENTITIES CLAIM ARMENIAN GENOCIDE


Dear Readers

There are some threads written by people who call themselves Turk.After reading these notes you may notice that someone who is so passionately against his/her country,even offending his country,state and flag, you may see how far they can go to show their fascist,hatred,unpeaceful minds just to make their claims reasonable.

I regret to see people to become so desperate to the point to claim armenian genocide.

I regret to see people to try making connections with Jew's Holocaust to make their armenian genocide claim reasonable.

Terribly I regret to see people even to call Jew's Holocaust controversial just to make their claim be part of Holocaust.

I never wanted to make Jew's Holocaust part of this discussion.I respect Jews' history and memoirs.Despite my efforts it was out of my control to prevent other facists from doing this.

All Turks and Turkish government have had close relations with Jews during the history.

Ottoman Empire helped Jew people bringing them from Spain.

Turkish Government in WW2 helped the Jews escaping Hitler.

Einstein was one of them who stayed in Turkey in WW2.

Recently Israeli president Simon Peres talked in Turkish parliament stating all these points.You may find it easily on the internet.

I hope people do not stop being reasonable.

We all need is peace


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Very nice that you helped the Jews, but that's not the point at all.

People named the Jews and Hitler, because the Holocaust has many similarities with the Armenian Genocide. Simply because there was an order from the government to effectively exterminate a race.

Moreover, people used the Holocaust as an argument for the genocide. Hitler said he "stole" the concept of the concentration camps from the Turks. Also, he said "Wer redet heute noch von der Vernichtung der Armenier?". Implying that there was in fact a Genocide on the Armenians, and that Turkey is unpunished for that, nobody talks about it anymore.

So your whole talk about the Holocaust doesn't make any sense.

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That's exactly the point.Do not mix apples with oranges.

It looks cheap when you try to make connections a controversial armenian genocide claim with a proven and accepted fact of Jews Holocaust.

And when you and other facist armenians make connections Jews Holocaust with this controversial armenian genocide claim you disrespect Jew People.You do not respect it as Jews Holocaust is not a controversial issue.

Jew people also seperate Jews Holocaust from this rubbish armenian genocide claim.Do not worry.

You are right exterminated armenian race have been living for years in Turkiye :)

Genocide is explicitly defined and written in UN articles.

I will ignore you as you are a facist hater,ultra-nationalist, fundemantalist christian.

You enough showed your Turkish hatred.Work on peace a little bit.PEACE does not harm you.

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Again, you make up your own reasons why I'm a bad guy, so that can call me names. If you want to ignore me because you can't discuss subjects with me in a normal way as you don't have any arguments, that's fine. But I don't think it would help you in your "oration"

Let's analyse your post:

"That's exactly the point.Do not mix apples with oranges."
What's the point? That Turks helped the Jews? What has that anything to do with the Genocide?

"It looks cheap when you try to make connections a controversial armenian genocide claim with a proven and accepted fact of Jews Holocaust."
The Armenian Genocide is as a fact as the Jewish Genocide is. I won't bother you with the huge list of countries/organizations who have recognized it, nor with all the studies, historian analyses, photographs, videos, reports etc. The difference with the Holocaust is that Germany recognizes it as every self-respected country does, and Turkey doesn't. And there are still people that are denying the Holocaust. The paradoxical difference is that it's forbidden in Germany to deny that, but in Turkey it's forbidden to even use the word "genocide".

"And when you and other facist armenians make connections Jews Holocaust with this controversial armenian genocide claim you disrespect Jew People.You do not respect it as Jews Holocaust is not a controversial issue."
Why am I a fascist? Do you even know the meaning of that word (since you're spelling it incorrectly too), because it doesn't make sense. Maybe you mean "racist"? Either way, where did I say anything with hate? Nowhere. So it's strange that you make up your own story and change my words.

"Jew people also seperate Jews Holocaust from this rubbish armenian genocide claim.Do not worry."
Let the Jews decide for themselves please. Jews and Armenians always get along well, and if someone understand the Armenians it's the Jews. They have suffered even more centuries than Armenians do.

"You are right exterminated armenian race have been living for years in Turkiye :)"
Again, you're making your own stories. I didn't say "Armenians were exterminated", I said "there was an order to exterminate all Armenians". If you don't understand English, please don't post. About Armenians in Turkey: during the Genocide some people got the option to be executed or to become muslim and Turk. So many Armenians were forced to change their names, everything. Also, Turks forced Armenian women to marry them in the same way. And yes, there are also some "normal" Armenians living in Turkey. Should I mention that it's originally Armenian ground, and that the Turks actually are living (partly) on Armenian grounds?

"Genocide is explicitly defined and written in UN articles."
Yes - the deliberate killing of a large ethnic group. Same thing with WWII and Hitler, same thing in Rwanda, etc.

"I will ignore you as you are a facist hater,ultra-nationalist, fundemantalist christian."
Just calling me names, doesn't make me that. But you are free to do so if you think that's best for you.

"You enough showed your Turkish hatred.Work on peace a little bit.PEACE does not harm you."
Again, where did I show my hate towards Turks? I'm just discussing the genocide. And if there's one thing I don't like if false accusations and false denial. But again, I don't express myself that strongly as "hate". Obviously a thing you do.

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So I'm wondering what your next move will be. I think you will ignore me again, twist my words, make up your own story, and/or open a new thread with the same *beep*

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