I hate protests


while watching this film the only thing that i could really get emotional about is how useless protesting/protestors are. Yes, they have ideals. Yes, you are entitled to that. But don't make offensive posters with ridiculous slogans just for shock value. A banner with the crosshairs on his forehead? Saying something about being a Nazi Fascist dictator? Do these people even know what a Nazi is?

The worst thing is I know this was the most honest part of the film. This stuff happens everyday and I have seen it. Protestors should be ashamed.

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why do you hate freedom so much?

/jk

but seriously, why do you not like the first amendment and the rights it grants us as citizens of this free nation?

Even if I dont agree with protesters I believe they are even more patriotic for doing something about it. indifference leads to the downfall of any free society. it is what is going on now and we need protesters more than ever now.

I have protested in front of my town hall for impeachment, what have you stood up against/for to better the lives of your fellow countrymen?

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I don't think the OP was saying they didn't like the right to protest. I think they were getting at the methods used. Crosshairs and Nazi slogans are a tad much. It makes people look like fanatics, not Americans with the best interest of all at heart. If you really want to protest, do it, but it isn't necessary to use shock value as the op very rightly pointed out. Instead of standing in the streets not getting anything done more than yelling pointlessly, why not gather a huge group of people and go visit your Congressman? Do you honestly think President Bush is going to reconsider a policy because a bunch of crazy people screamed at him?

President Bush "Well...I was going to put these policies forward for consideration, but now that I've heard all this yelling and these very creative signs...I think I'll hold off."

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It has been said, "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it". The suppression of freedom of speech is one of the scariest and most pressing issues in modern politics, especially since it's occurring here at home. "Free speech zone"???? Are you joking? As long as you're not being violent, say whatever you want and protest however you like. So what if somebody's protest sign offends you? You have the right to disagree and look the other way, but thinking they shouldn't be allowed to hold the sign or chant the slogan just because it's in your definition of bad taste is nonsense.

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Yes, they are actually very different, for example:

* - George W. Bush got power over a country (the second time, 2004, he wasn't democratically elected, but actually lost when you count the votes) with an economical surplus, went to war, and created one of the countries biggest deficits in it's entire history.

- Hitler took over a country, with approximately 37% of the votes, and despite an enormous deficit, Hitler went to war. Damned thing is, the German economy got better from it!



* - George W. Bush would not agree to sign the Kyoto-protocol, despite the fact that practically the whole world ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Kyoto_Protocol_participation_map_2005.png/800px-Kyoto_Protocol_participation_map_2005.png ) has signed it. George W. Bush has not at all impressed on the subject of animal rights. Some may say he's not really done anything good on the subject whatsoever.

- Adolf Hitler was very found of animals and nature, and Germany had to this date the strictest rules ever on animal cruelty. No country has ever treated animals as well as Germany did during Hitlers rule.


* - George W. Bush hasn't really done anything to stop people from smoking, as a matter of fact, since W. Bush came into power, another version of consuming tobacco (doesn't damage your lungs, but contains more nicotine and is bad for dental hygiene) that is really only popular in Scandinavian countries, has now entered the American market.

- Hitler was very anti-cigarettes, not only did he campaign against smoking, he gave his officers and close friends gold watches if they stopped smoking.

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Then you should be ashamed! Guess what you are doing, and were doing, by posting this reply!?

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Yeah, I mean everyone has a right to protest. However, sometimes you can get a lot more done directly, i.e. writing to your Congressman, supporting certain candidates, etc. For example, not many realize this but during Vietnam the anti-war movement wasn't just hippies marching. It included alot of clean-cut guys writing to their Senators and their congressman discussing their concerns about the war and I think that continues today. I'm fairly conservative and against the Iraq War, but you won't find me marching, it's just not my style.

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why not??? is it not the truth???? he may not be the archatype of a nazi, but a facist none the less. it seems nobody here even gets it? we protest in the streets for numerous reasons and they do have an effect, little do you know. part of protesting is the fact that it draws attention to a certain issue. but i do hate when issues like enviromental causes gets piggybacked with say...gay rights. they have nothing in common, so leave it be. another reason its a community getting together and reaching out to each other. letting people know they aren't alone. its just plain cathartic. seriously, you don't know how gratifying it can be until you do it. especialy to see and meet people from all walks of life come together to voice discontent. now, heres a little secret. do you know why protesters wreck the neighboorhood when say...nazis or republican/democrats come to town? well because the city/town sponsered it to generate $$$. so if you destroy main street and burn down a starbucks , your making it expensive for the city/town to host those events. so the mayor will say"the republican national convention generated X ammount, but the anachist did X ammount of damage so we actualy lost money.". so next time the city/town will say no to the group who wants to host that event. and so will the next town and the next town. in fear of the same response. so see it does have an effect.

and this movie is awesome since they use actual protest footage from a chicago protest,that i missed do to me being out of town, but its awesome to clearly see my roomates and friends in a movie.

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I should e-mail you a copy of 'On Liberty' for you to peruse. Maybe you'll stop thinking yourself quite so infallible.

Sebastian

"You cant drown, you're immortal!"
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George Bush Snr was right up the Nazi's arses, hence the Nazi slogans when protesting against Bush. But I go further, I think the US flag should be changed to reflect what that country has been doing in the world over the last seven years and re-arrange the stars into a swastika symbol.

I am Anti-American and proud of it.

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Protests have been important in the American history book. They brought about Women's Right to Vote and Birth Control measures. Protests against war does influence many politicians (as well as those letters). Richard Nixon said the protests helped in the decision to pull out our troops in Vietnam. The United States is a great country with some very bad people in it. Freedom of speech must remain a right.

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Protests rarely if EVER actually do anything or cause any sort of change. Look at the difference between the Tea Party and the 99% movement, their protests did nothing but the Tea Party people were smart enough to protest AND vote and if anything the 99% movement stayed home in 2010 and 2012 and the Tea Party won control of Congress.

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