Dear Mr. Rockhound:
If the fallen officer was a bad and/or corrupt officer, I be more than happy to tell the family that the officer died in the line of duty; although, in reality, I would be sorely tempted to say that the officer had it coming and I won't shred any tears for him/her because I know that corrupt officer won't not care for me.
If the fallen officer was killed by a corrupt/bad cop, I would be sorely tempted to tell the family that one of his "brothers" had gone over to the criminal world and killed the good cop. Either way, I bet you would sugarcoat the news.
As I stated before, since you do not want to hear other people's opionons, then you are free to go to a country where there is no freedom of speech; no one will stop you except yourself.
With regards to a 300 lb goon who is drunk, drug crazed, and do other nasty things to people like you and me, it fits some cops who do that off duty and/or on duty. Last weekend, there was a Citrus Heights cop who led the city of Folsom cops on a 30 minute chase because he failed to stop at a stop sign. He ram one patrol car and then ran over the foot of anofficer. The cops probably ran his car license plates and found out that suspect was a cop because they never shot at him despite the fact he tried to run them down. If it was an ordinary citizen or a criminal, the cops would not have hestitate to open fire.
Frankly, it is getting impossible to find cops that do head for danger. Nowadays, you have wide areas of the cities where the cops do not want to patrol and tried to avoid the area (in the military, it would be known as cowardice in the face of the enemy). Some cops leave the cities to work for rural law enforcmeent agencies because pace is slower; however, some of them come back to the cities, because when they are out in the rural areas, there is little or no backup for them if they are in trouble.
If there are 50 honorable cops to one bad cop, how come you don't see them turn in the one bad cop? If that was the case, widespread police corruption would not even exist, and you see a lot more corrupt business people, politicans, and organized crime figures in prison. I would back you up and risk my life if and when you turn in corrupt cops, but if you can't or won't, you are part of the problem not the solution. It take real moral courage to do that sort of thing, much more than facing a barrel of a gun or getting into a phyiscal brawl with a suspect.
You ought to see the movie Harlan County USA. It is about the 1973 miners' strike in Harlan County, Kentucky. The police (state and sheriff) did not do a thing about the coal mining company's thugs who initimidate, threaten, beaten, and even shot at the miners with pistols, rifles, and machine guns. The coal company thugs even murder one miner. The law enforcement agencies were totally on the side of the company and were almost completely absent from the union picket lines. They did not come in until the murder of that striking miner. The people in Eastern Kentucky, parts of West Virginia, and other coal mining regions do not care much for law enforcement because they know that the police officers are controlled by the powerful corporations, so don't even think about holding a grudge against them. The people in those areas are not well-educated; however, they are not stupid, and they have develop a healthy if somewhat bitter respect for what corrupt cops are capable of doing to them.
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Rockhound6165
16 years ago
OK, I get it. You're an elitist cop-hating pinhead. Your disdain for law enforcement is quite clear. And, again, I must state because you seem to be making armchair quarterbacking an artform, grow a set, take a test, pass, go through the process, the academy, and do the job. As I also said, which you seem to not want to read, is that I understand that there are knuckleheads. But you seem to believe that all cops are corrupt even if by association. And you find it impossible to find cops who head into danger? Did 9/11 not happen? Are the cadets on this show vying for jobs in Disneyland? You are not only an elitist cophating pinhead but you are also a moron. There are dangers every day. Everytime a cop pulls over a car could be his last. Everytime a cop serves a warrant could mean death. Not to mention my Corrections bretheren who are faced with dangers you would no doubt run away from(124 to 1 is what I'm up against). Oh, here's a site you should go to and then take the time to tell their families how dirty they are:http://www.odmp.org/year.php. Oh, and yes you have the right to your opinion but your opinion. But practice what you preach. If you're in any kind of danger and need help, do not call the police. If you do, this would make you a hypocrite, which no doubt you are.
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SipteaHighTea
16 years ago
Ok. I get. You are a cop that hates any kind of constructive criticism even from your own ranks. You believe that everyone are against cops even especially those who tried to monitor police behavior on the streets. Here are three sites that you should go to:
1) IWitnessvideo.info
2) www.copwatch.org
3) www.leap.com -Law Enforcement against Prohibition
Why don't you go to those websites and tell those people how stupid they are in attacking cops when all they are trying to do is to remind the cops that they are servants to the community not the oppressors. With regards to the odmp.org website, why don't you tell me which families had the dirty cops that were killed or which families had good cops killed by the bad cops, so I will give my views to those families?
With your regards about cops heading into danger, what about the 200 New Orlean City Police cops who abandon their posts and their brother officers after Hurrican Katrina swept through the area.
I only have disdain for bad cops; however, there is still no excuse for good cops for their failure to kick the bad cops off the force. I agreed with you that there are people who should not become cops; however, why don't you practice what you preach? How many times you taken action against bad cops by turning them in to Internal Affairs or taking them to court for their bad actions. Practice what you preach. Do not expect the community to help cops solve crime especially the death of a police officer when the citizens of the community have been persecsute too long by the police department. Rent the movie Harlan County U.S.A., or are you afraid to learn something new?
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Rockhound6165
16 years ago
I guess you missed the part where I said that I agreed there are knuckleheads in uniform. You also assume that all cops are privy to all bad behavior by the bad cops. What makes you so sure I've been witness to this type of behavior? I'm pretty isolated where I work as in an 8 hour day, I'm working alone about 6 1/2 hours of that day. I can say in all honesty that I've never seen anything not on the level. Not saying it doesn't happen, only that I've never been witness to any. Are you suggesting I take word of mouth and act on it? Sorry, I don't report on anything I've never directly witnessed but if it makes you feel any better in my line of work cops are fired quite often for unsavory behavior.
Oh, and renting a movie. WTG. Yeah I'm gonna learn alot from a movie. But boy, what a way to prove your point. From a movie. Wow. You really shut me up. Besides, how do you know I haven't seen that movie already, schmendrick. But since you are into learning new stuff, look up this word: Pecksniffian. Then look in the mirror.
Dependence leads to servitude. Independence leads to achievement. And achievement leads to rewards.
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SipteaHighTea
16 years ago
It seems that the words unctuously Pecksniffian applies to you as well. I do not know what your schedule is like, and you expect me to take your word for it? Furthermore, I did not say about you turning in the cops based on word of mouth. I was stating when did you ever turn someone in for actually witnessing their bad behavior.
With regards to the movie, it is a based on real events in real time footage, and it shows how the people feel about law enforcement in their area. How do I know whether you have or have not seem the movie, let alone heard of it? You have not given any comments about what you thought of the people'attitude on law enforcement in that movie or the movie as a whole.
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