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So i own a pair of Nilkes. Does that mean i forfeit my right to protest?


Seems that is the usual excuse for calling us lefties hipocrits.
What the *beep* does my shoes or where i shop got anyhting to do with how WTO neglects poor countries?

Am i supposed to totally isolate myself from any major corporate influences? Would that give me the right?


Just because i wear a leather jacket doesnt mean i cant support animal rights. Stop using that stupid argument you rigt-wing nuts.

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being revolutionary has nothing do to with what you eat or wear anyone who says different is kinda missing the point when it comes to making a real difference

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The WTO protesters always have anti-Nike signs because Nike exploits foreign workers in underpaid factories and uses child labor. Your ignorance (or hypocrisy) is therefore showing.

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No, wearing Nilkes is allowed. On the other hand, of those were Nikes, you would not be allowed to protest.

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Protesting how the WTO and the corporations that benefit from the WTO, while wearing product from those corporations is hypocritical. It says you care when the camera is on, but in your day to day life it doesn't matter.

Besides, protesting doesn't do much, even less if you still buy their stuff. Boycotting and not giving those corporations your money will do more to change their business practices than carrying a sign. They lose money, they go "OH *beep* WHAT'S GOING ON?" They see protesters, and they go "HAHAHA! LOOK AT THE FOOLS IN THE STREETS! LETS HAVE A MONEY FIGHT!"

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exactly.. to the first part. what you dont get it that protesting is what brings about the boycotting and the realization to the masses who can stop these companies. regardless of what happened that day, don't you think more people are aware of the WTO issue because of it?

i for one wouldve never know had it not been for those protests

ALTHOUGH im not sayin protest works %100 of the time, more likely %20 of the time it works to grab peoples attention and get the ball rolling.

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Economic protests have a devastating impact on companies who only care about profit. If Nike lost 40% of it's revenue due to people boycotting them because of their appalling record of child labour, they would either have to accept that loss or change the way they work.
The anti globalisation movement is getting stronger, and I hope that individuals start to realise the cost to the planet and the population of such a consumerist lifestyle. We don't need brand names, buy generic. Even better, buy fair trade.

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anti-globaliZation and anti-consumerism are completely different ideas that brain-dead people who group together with a bunch of signs muddle up and end up screwing things up and making the issue more convoluted and retarded.

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Well, I'm not mixing the two up. I do believe they are closely linked and feed in to each other.

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exactly my point

you are wrong but regardless majority wins and that only makes more problems because you feed into them

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Dude, consumerism does feed in to globalization. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it a 'majority wins' situation. If there weren't nine hundred thousand people clamouring to buy the latest gizmo and gadget, we wouldn't have had to outsource to make it.

It isn't a question of the majority winning, it's a question of basic logic.

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Why correct someones spelling of globalisation. Different countries spell things differently.

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For me, the mere fact that you buy these things should give you a RIGHT to engage with these companies and express your opinion on what they're doing! After all you are one of the people giving them money so by all means SPEAK UP if you have to...

The Joker: You prefer a magic trick, instead? Watch me make this pencil disappear

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So I only have the right to engage and fight against sex trafficing if I kidnap women and children, or against the death penalty if I start flicking the switches. Nonsense. Why on earth would I put money in the pockets of companies I abhor? Now, buying shares gives me direct access and an ability to engage - that I have done before and it worked fantastically well.

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Yea buying the product really teaches them a lesson...Ridiculous. If you have a pair of Nikes you don't have a right to protest, because you are supporting the way company and what they are doing.

The only protesting that really matters is economic protesting.

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Take the argument to the next level:

You can't call yourself a Christian unless you have spent three days and nights hanging on a cross.. Makes perfect sense to me!!

Excuse My Dust...

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What does Christianity have to do with this?

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...in fairness, some companies have been attempting to move production back to the US, although I do not know if this applies to Nike. Moreover, a residual element of the anti-globalization movement has been able to go mainstream, by encouraging folks to "buy local." The idea is to help support local businesses instead of the multinational chains.

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