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Oh Scott how could you... a real 'WTF' terrible accent moment


"........and the 2007 Dick Van Dyke award for worst British accent in a motion picture goes to Scott Wentworth"

I'm guessing the Professor is supposed to be British but who knows quite honestly!! Really really really bad.

I recently read an article on BBC America (see below) heralding American actors who can do great British accents. Scott wasn't one of them (no surprise!) but people like Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider was given as an example!! Seriously! There were only 5 people on the list out of all the American actors that could be selected and this was one of them. Makes me laugh.

I wonder why Americans can't do accents. Perhaps it is a lack of exposure to foreign TV?

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/01/five-american-actors-who-can-do-a-decent-british-accent/

Oh and btw this film is so terrible I had to turn it off after 40 minutes




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He sounded suitably English to me, and I'm English.

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Are you joking? His accent was terrible. I didn't even know who the guy was before watching this film but immediately knew the accent was fake.

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Ahhh let me explain. I didn't end up watching the whole movie. It was so bad that I was getting ready to switch it off when Scott came in with his shocking accent and that was the final straw. One of many things wrong for sure....but for me it was a parting shot.

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I didn't notice it at all, and I'm from the UK...

I was more aware of the occasional slip up from the Canadian cast members pretending to be Americans.

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said "I've gone out the window."

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I don't believe you.

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:'(

Seriously though, just because he played the role as an 'upper crust' English guy does not make it a bad accent. He maintains it throughout the film, and doesn't let any hint of an American accent bleed through during his dialogue. Compare it to the rest of the cast, and he's actually pretty good.

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said "I've gone out the window."

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Just because he maintains the accent throughout doesn't mean that it is good!!!

Dick Van Dyke hung on to his notoriously awful accent in Mary Poppins throughout the entire movie and with far more screen time than Scott.....yet Dick Van Dyke is still held up as the archetype for terrible accents.

Consistency is not quality and this was embarrassingly terrible.

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doesn't let any hint of an American accent bleed through during his dialogue


That was the central point I was making.

This guy manages a fairly good pan-English accent without any noticeable trouble, while Dyke was attempting a Cockney accent which is surprisingly difficult to pull off. I actually assumed the actor here was English, and again, I'm British myself.

Do you just hate this movie/actor?

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said "I've gone out the window."

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doesn't let any hint of an American accent bleed through during his dialogue

That was the central point I was making.


I'd have to watch it again to confirm if this statement is true.........but even if it is that only confirms that the accent he did wasn't American. It doesn't confirm at all that it was a faithful British accent.

This guy manages a fairly good pan-English accent without any noticeable trouble


What the hell does that even mean?!? That's a really strange comment for a British person to make. There's no such thing as a pan-English accent. The English language is notorious (in Britain in particular) for being riddled with a whole range of very different accents.

while Dyke was attempting a Cockney accent which is surprisingly difficult to pull off.


What makes you think that Cockney is surprisingly difficult? Dyke couldn't manage it but that is more of a comment on his abilities rather than the accent itself, surely.

I actually assumed the actor here was English, and again, I'm British myself.


Now you must be joking. There's a couple of things that you have said that make me suspicious about you being British.

Do you just hate this movie/actor?


I hate the movie. I hate the actor in this movie specifically (but I haven't seen him in anything else).

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I don't want to get into a big argument or anything, but I can assure you that I'm being genuine here.

Having watched the film a few times, the actor doesn't slip into an American accent at any point. By 'pan-English' accent, I mean an accent that isn't immediately identifiable to any particular part of England, yet is obviously an English accent. (The character mentions that he's from Portsmouth but went to school at Eton.) Not every city in England has an absolutely unique accent - but rather slight variations of a subtle nature. Cities in the North have pretty specific accents (Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool and Birmingham being obvious ones) but in the South there's less distinction between cities.

Cockney accents are difficult, even for British actors. It's easy to try one and sound pretty daft. Very few actors who aren't native Londoners can make it sound right. For a good example, check out Ewan McGregor and Colin Farrell in 'Cassandra's Dream' in which they both do very unconvincing working-class London accents.

The other reply you got on this thread was from another Brit who actually said much the same as I have on the subject. I'm mildly surprised (and amused) that of all the various problems with Diary of the Dead, you chose to focus on one character's accent...

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said "I've gone out the window."

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By 'pan-English' accent, I mean an accent that isn't immediately identifiable to any particular part of England


So to clarify he did a non-specific pan-English accent that was bereft of Americanisms. Well it's not exactly the most resounding defence, but ok fair enough. I thought it was terrible.

Cockney accents are difficult, even for British actors. It's easy to try one and sound pretty daft. Very few actors who aren't native Londoners can make it sound right. For a good example, check out Ewan McGregor and Colin Farrell in 'Cassandra's Dream' in which they both do very unconvincing working-class London accents.


So the two examples that sprang to mind were McGregor an Farrell?!?! Really? Neither of these guys can do a convincing English accent at the best of times.


I'm mildly surprised (and amused) that of all the various problems with Diary of the Dead, you chose to focus on one character's accent...


No that's not fair. I've said earlier in this thread that the movie as a whole was terrible but that Scott's accent was the final nail in the coffin.

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So to clarify he did a non-specific pan-English accent that was bereft of Americanisms.


If you would prefer me to put it another way, he did a generic English accent, and he did it rather well.

Incidentally, an 'Americanism' relates to words and phrases, not accents - anyone could speak an Americanism in any accent and it would still be an Americanism.

So the two examples that sprang to mind were McGregor an Farrell?!?! Really?


In referencing McGregor and Farrell I was pointing out that the Cockney accent is tough for non-Cockneys. Most of the time McGregor's English accent is perfectly okay (in 'The Ghost' for instance) but as a Cockney he sounded way off. Plenty of English actors do crap Cockney accents too (Charlie Hunnam in 'Green Street' also springs to mind).

No that's not fair.


I think it's perfectly fair for me to be surprised and amused by your comments... You sound rather angry for something so trivial.

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said "I've gone out the window."

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If you would prefer me to put it another way, he did a generic English accent, and he did it rather well.


It all adds up to the same thing which means "he sounded non-specifically English. I'd still question what the hell that means. RP my not be region specific but it is still an accent you could label.....whereas your description is of a vague pan-English spoken by the general people of the UK which is nonsense.

Oh and he obviously didn't do it that well because even though I'd never seen the actor before I immediately knew he wasn't English. I'm not psychic.

Incidentally, an 'Americanism' relates to words and phrases, not accents - anyone could speak an Americanism in any accent and it would still be an Americanism.


'Americanism' has a broader meaning of customs, traits, words, phrases and any other linguistic features peculiar to the Americans. I used it as a broad word to describe anything American creeping into his delivery. And you think I'm getting worked up about a small thing?!?

In referencing McGregor and Farrell I was pointing out that the Cockney accent is tough for non-Cockneys. Most of the time McGregor's English accent is perfectly okay (in 'The Ghost' for instance) but as a Cockney he sounded way off. Plenty of English actors do crap Cockney accents too (Charlie Hunnam in 'Green Street' also springs to mind).


That's hilarious. So because a couple of specific actors can't do it that automatically means it is difficult? I guess the fact that Do Cheadle murdered the accent in Oceans 11 bolsters your argument right? For example, if I had a pound for every time an American actor struggles with any form of British accent I'd be rich....but do we then assume that British accents are difficult for everyone to master?

On a side note, check out Stephen Graham in Snatch putting on a masterclass btw. There are plenty of non-cockneys who manage a Cockney accent every week on TV or in films (sometimes surprisingly even in god awful things like Eastenders). Some do a good job, some bad.... as with all accents.

I think it's perfectly fair for me to be surprised and amused by your comments... You sound rather angry for something so trivial.


No I said it is not fair to pretend that the only thing I didn't like was his accent. The whole film is an abortion...his terrible performance was just the cherry on the cake. Oh and for what it is worth I'm not angry at all. This is a movie discussion forum where people discuss movie trivia. Stuff like bad movies and bad performances.

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I've had some fun with this, but I'm going to head off now since these things can just go on and on.

Take it easy.

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He left a note. He left a simple little note that said "I've gone out the window."

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Oh really!

Well I'm going sit on this thread exclusively getting angrier and angrier at something or other :)

See ya.

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Well, it's probably for the same reason that some British folk have difficulty emulating our ridiculously plain-Jane dialect.

Like you said, not enough exposure; if we were around people who spoke that way 24 seven, it would be a different story.

But, as far as my exposure is:

*Missouri- normal "American" accents, sometime with a light touch of a country drawl.

*Illinois- the "Chicagan" accent, wich (with a lack of a better comparison, like an old-timey gangster...hopefully you get what I'm trying to say lol)...then you've got (quite a few) Mexican citizens, I'm sure you know that, and then there's the large Indian groups here (Indian=from India, not Chief Kohauwakota)...my best friend was Polish, and he lived in the Polish neighborhood (couldn't describe that accent to you if I tried).... There are plenty more that I could list, but the basic gist is that Illinois is incredibly, incredibly diverse. Period. But, they're honestly are not a lot of British people there, as far as I am aware...At least, not enough to be able to listen to their voice on a regular basis, and therefore be able to pick up and put the accent to use!what the accent sounds like!

*Minnesota- I guess I would call this one the accent of a Hillsman? If you have ever seen the movie Fargo, it's really legitimately pretty close to that. Although, where I live people had both the standard American accent and the Hellman accent, but not as exaggerated as in Fargo (unfortunately hahaha).

*Indianapolis- A good deal like Missouri, but more noticeable and heavy country drawls. Lots of country music playing, lots of outdoorsy people, lots of trucks, lots of fishing and hunting.

*Kansas, my current home state of a month so far)- to my surprise, not everybody here has a country accent. Some do, and it's incredibly noticeable, but most of the time, it's very light, and only comes out when they are talking excitedly or loudly or interested in the subject. When I hear one of these beautiful country girls using it, I'm telling you, my heart drops :-)

Well, that was incredibly lengthy, wasn't it? But I just kind of wanted to give you a rough idea of what the culture and typical voice pattern is like here in gaddam-gun totin', good ol' 'MURRICA!!! (Hillbilly and redneck cheers and laughter heard in the distance, along with rifles and shotguns being blasted into the air).

I know that my experience is very limited, but in all of those places, I can honestly say I only knew of one British person. They weren't really a friend, but I was aware of them, and the girls absolutely love his accent. So, the only good way to get to hear British accents on a consistent basis is to watch British movies or the BBC channel, watch some football (REAL football, not that other lame *beep* of a "sport"), maybe finding a book on tape that a British person who narrates it for the listener. Or, happen to be lucky enough to know one from work, school, or As the good old game in the seller, saved for special locations or when you have company over. Sure, playwrights attempt to teach their actors and actresses the proper British accent if need be, but it's nothing like the real experience, you know what I mean?

ANYWAYS... That's my two cents; I don't know if it's right or not, but, it's an educated guess. I apologize for the extremely long message, and also apologize for commenting on a post that is definitely old. I just have an affinity to do that, especially if the poster didn't get much of a response. You have yourself a wonderful life, my continental comrade, and seriously........if you want to go on vacation and find yourself swimmin' in women, afloat in a sea of ovaries...

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So I hope I answered your question! See you soon!...........>:) semen Santa sliding sleigh, slit the slut from but to HEY, bye guy! *beep*

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I'm English and didn't realise he wasn't. Nothing to complain about. The main actress was the one with the noteable cringeworthy acting and well, screen presence overall.

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Chiming in several years later (in the hope that you've calmed down a bit)…

I'm English too, and, for what little it's worth, a linguist who specialized in phonetics… and I thought he WAS English.

I was even asking myself who this English actor was that I hadn't come across before…

I even thought he sounded TOO English, considering he's supposed to have been teaching media studies in the US, presumably for some time (accents rub off on people: he would normally have started Americanising some of his vowels). At one point I thought I was hearing Rowley Birkin QC: "[creaky voice] zombie ! [mumble, mumble] head orff ! Hah ! But of course, I was vey vey drunk at the time…"

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What!?!! Please tell me you're joking or trolling?

If an English linguist was fooled by this you must have a tin ear mate! Run back to your uni and demand a refund

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Brits can't do American accents either. Espcially on British TV. Brits in huge American productions are just ok with the American accent but Brits on British TV are absolutely pathetic.

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