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kings and queens with nicknames?

posted 9 years ago by pol-edra
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Good morning English speaking-friends. Remember those scenes in which Mrs Dashwood makes Margaret rehearse her list of Kings and Queens? I am looking online, and so far have been unsuccessful, for a simple list of English monarchs with their cognomen (Aethelred the Unready, William the Conqueror, and so on...). I am very far from knowing all of them and would love to remedy this by learning "Margaret's list".

So far I find either lists with name and number, or pages that have at least a paragraph-long summary of the king's life under his name. What I'm looking for to be more precise, would be the kind of very dry-looking yet extremely musical name-list that Margaret is learning by heart. If you can't help that's OK, I'll piece my own little by little, but it would be much quicker if someone could direct me to the right place from the start.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

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[–] supergran 9 years ago

Hi pol-edra. 

This any good?
http://www.britroyals.com/rulers.htm

...And my absolute favourite from Horrible Histories:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzkt12JPAtM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuRECu-ZV2g

I have a darling little booklet entitled "The History of England by a partial, prejudiced and ignorant Historian" - none other than a fifteen-year-old Jane Austen. It's an amusing review of the reigns of thirteen kings and queens. The girl showed promise even then!

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.

[–] summeriris 9 years ago

Very few of the kings and queens of England actually had nicknames. The main ones I can think of are Alfred the Great, Edward the Confessor, The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth 1 and The Merry Monarch who was Charles 2.
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[–] calmeilles 9 years ago

William I, the conqueror
William II, Rufus
Henry I, Beauclerk
Stephen, of Blois
Henry II, Curtmantle, also Fitz-Empress
Richard I, Lionheart
John, Lackland
Henry III, of Windsor
Edward I, Longshanks
Edward II, of Caernarfon
Edward III, of Windsor
Richard II, of Bordeaux
Henry IV, Bolingbroke
Henry V, of Monmouth
Henry VI, The Blessed
Edward IV, of York

At which point semi-formal cognomen disappear and such nicknames as have become well known have been applied apocryphally such as Elizabeth I, The Virgin Queen, or popularly such as William IV, The Sailor King or Sailor Billy.

[–] summeriris 9 years ago

Well researched. One point, when you list a title or place name such as Bolingbroke, Windsor, York or Blois, that's not really a nickname. Lacklaand definitely was a nickname, but Caernarfon is not really. It simply is referring to the point that Edward !! was born at Caernarfon and presented to the Welsh people as Prince of Wales. Henry 1V was likewise born at Bolingbroke Castle. There were a lot of Edwards and Henrys, this was a way of differentiating them.

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