What a load of crap

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yup. This is just a bastardization of quantum mechanics. scientology is as much scientifically sound as this junk

The monster you created has returned... to kill you!

It's easy to imagine creationists falling for this load of old bollocks. Sort of made for each other - creationism and 'Law of Attraction'. No logic, no science, and a very, very tenuous grasp on the concept of quantum physics.

A couple of facts.

1) Evolution didn't happen the way Darwin postulated. Anyone who BELIEVES in anything, is a fool - but especially anyone what blindly accepts a concept like 'macroevolution' is an ignorant idiot. Here is a quote from someone who actually studied and researched this:

"The problem with that theory is that there is no science that can verify it as actually being possible for that to occur. You would need for a first living thing, millions, perhaps hundreds of thousands at a minimum, perhaps millions at a maximum, of lipids (?) to make a membrane to hold that living thing. You would need sidoplasm or something to give it substance within it's body. You would need five to ten strands of DNA at a minimum to do the housekeeping required, to take nourishment from the environment, and to put waste back out from the body when the nourishment had been turned into energy. It would have to be able to reproduce itself ad infinitum. All of that has to happen AT ONCE. It can't happen piecemeal, it can't be put together in parts.

So when you just look at the very beginnings of life, you see that Darwinism isn't possible. Furthermore, in the ongoing fossil record that we have for subsequent formation of life and species, they never developed one from another. That's what Darwin postulated, that macroevolution would be possible, that seaworms could turn into fish, fish could turn into amphibians, amphibians could turn into reptiles, reptiles could turn into mammals and birds, that gills could turn into lungs, that fins could turn into limbs -- there is no evidence of ANY of that, and yet it is absolutely required by Darwin's theory.

All that Darwin saw on the Galapacos was microeveolution, which is evolution in parts of bodies - and he just assumed, he just guessed, he projected, that whole bodies could change, given enough time. It was logical - it is logical, it just simply is not born out by the facts. We've had a hundred and forty years to look for those - that evidence - it's not there, it's not going to be there, that's not how life develops on Earth.

Life seems to be - if you read the fossil record fairly and truly - life seems to be brought here in great loads, in great amounts, it is as if the Earth is being Terraformed by some superior entity or entities somewhere else - but there seems to be a conscious ongoing program of development of life on Earth - but it is not being developed here, in and of itself, in the Terrestrial - strictly withing the Terrestrial bounds.

There is some kind of outside intervention occurring, whether that is interpreted as Extra-Terrestrial or Divine, it's up to the individual, but it is not happening entirely here."

2) Astrology is thousands of years old science that works. What you probably know is not astrology, but instead just some week-magazine 'horoscope' crap, that is of course not accurate, or even truthful. Astrology is not about prediction. It's based on the lifeplan that you have made for yourself, and that lifeplan of course must start at a very specific time for it to unfold as planned. That's why the position of the stars at the time of your birth is important - you can basically know your lifeplan based on that. I mean, because you were born at a certain time in a certain day, means that your lifeplan entails you having this or that quality, to ensure that everything will go the way it's supposed to. It's not about stars or planets magically controlling your life, it's a very scientific and dependable method, that simply works.

When you talk about astrology - and I am sure that your knowledge of this form of science is superficial and limited - you probably don't take all things into consideration. I mean, if you only judge it by sun signs (though I don't think you have ever investigated it further than reading a couple of weekly 'horoscopes', which have really nothing to do with actual astrology), you will sooner or later make errors.

Sun sign (which is what people talk about when they say 'their sign' or 'their astrological sign') is not the whole picture, it's just a part of it. It's like the city where you spent your childhood. Someone who has lived in the countryside all their life, without socializing with 'city folk' much, tends to be predictably a little different in their speaking speed, manners, thought patterns and values than let's say a big city reporter. The big city reporter probably talks faster, wears more suits, and so on. Without knowing anything more about these people, you can already 'predict' a lot of stuff based on their city and living environment. That's a lot like what a sun sign is.

It doesn't mean that a fast-speaker or a suit-wearer couldn't be born in the countryside or live there - it just means that the effect of the environment will most likely dictate certain qualities. That's all a sun sign is - it's like your birth/living location. If you are born as a bushman, you are going to be very different in your speaking patterns and linguistical skills than someone who is born into a rich family in the west, and who works as an interpreter.

So when you bash astrology, you are being just as illogical as if I said that people's differences can't be predicted AT ALL based on where they were born, and where they lived their lives. Ridiculous!

But as I said, the sun sign is not the whole story. If you read astrological books (NOT weekly magazines), and start researching this, and use your friends (if you have any) and/or family or acquintances (etc) as your guinea-pigs (you don't even have to tell them, because you should know their personalities and quirks well enough anyway), making charts and really studying what sort of personalities the people should be according to astrology, you will realize that it's not a matter of BELIEF, you can actually scientifically TEST it.

If you do a honest TEST of astrology - a full-scale test, with at least 10 people in it, and do it expertly and thoroughly, and then publish that test with ALL the relevant details, and show me that each and every single thing that astrology 'claims' those 10 people should have or express (like personality traits, etc.) is 100% and completely wrong, and that it is totally random, and none of it fits anyone - a test, where you have taken EVERYTHING into account, _NOT_ just sun signs, then, after studying your test and research and finding it done properly and without cheating/errors/mistakes or deliberate omissions or falsifications, I should tend to agree with you, that astrology is just a belief system that has never worked for anyone, and anyone who takes it seriously is an ignorant fool.

As a sidenote: I started researching astrology, for the very reason that I couldn't decide whether it's true or false. Arguments from both sides seemed relatively convincing, and seemed to contradict each other. So I did what anyone, who WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH does - I didn't start bashing either side without knowing enough of the subject, but instead, I dived deep into researching the matter. I read books, I had charts made, I compared the astrological claims to the true knowledge I had of people, and so on. After an extensive research, the evidence was overwhelming - for just 'guesswork', astrology had to be the BEST GUESSER IN EXISTENCE, because everything was right. Not just some vague portrayals, like "You are an emotional individual", but EVERY SINGLE DETAIL right down to the weird personality quirks of these people were known by astrology.

I also tested in reverse - I tried to make ANY astrological 'reading' or 'prediction' fit different people - and failed. None of it fit the 'wrong' people, they only fit the people they were about. They were so spot-on, that they could not fit anyone else! Things astrology says about me would not fit, for example, a friend that had a completely different personality from me. And what astrology said about him, certainly did not fit me AT ALL.

So, if you still want to argue against astrology, show a little good faith and do that test, and then I plan to admit you were right. Otherwise, your conduct will be just shameful bashing without research, which means you don't KNOW anything, you just BASH things, because you are scared. And that, really, does not deserve to be dignified with any kind of answers.

Furthermore, do not use a movie or a book - even a bad movie or a book - just to promote your agenda against astrology and for the blind blief for 'evolution'.

I mean, it's bad conduct and somewhat unethical to use a product just to advance your agenda.

If you want to critisize the book or the movie, CRITISIZE THE BOOK / MOVIE, do not simply use it as a springboard to bring yourself opportunities to bash other things (that you know nothing about)!

Your message may have the seed of core truth in it, but you certainly messed it up with lots of crap. Yes, the movie is ridiculous and completely superficial marketing ploy that has no spirituality in it whatsoever.

But it's not astrology's fault, and 'evolution' certainly has NOTHING to do with it! Your post is almost completely offtopic right from the get-go - you make only one statement about the book (and this is the Internet _MOVIE_ Database, not the Internet BOOK Database), and then use the rest of your pityfully tiny message simply to bash astrology and to praise evolution - that's like stupidity one-two!

If you have something to say about the movie, talk about the movie, not about other things that have nothing to do with the movie, ok?

Your message is mostly deserving the title of it.

I'm skeptical about this whole law of attraction, but one of my friends who is a psychiatrist recommended this movie like 2 years ago, and it was just waiting in my watchlist. Real or not, it was an interesting concept and I'm glad I saw it, any motivation to achieving your goals or desires can't be bad for you.

Lol a friend told me I should read this book because...honestly I am a negative person/thinker. I thought it was going to have some real practical insights/methods into improving my life or at least my thinking, then last night she showed me it. LOL come on GTFO! I do agree thinking positively will attract positive energy things towards you and negative thinking will do the same, but from how she explained it to me the idea is, that only bad things happen to people who think negatively. This is quite mean to people who do suffer real turmoil in their lives, and also takes away responsibility and accountability away from people who may do bad things to other people. On top of this it completely flies in the face of my own personal experiences and things I have seen, where in at least a few cases, people who where doing nothing but minding their own business ended up on the losing side of an altercation or bad event.

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