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I dont get it.. why are some people protesting the war?


the bugs are trying to kill the human race... why are there protesters?

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I think its not just the war, but the Federation exploiting the public's fears to get away with a lot of ethically questionable stuff and to control the populace better. As heroic as the Mobile Infantry are, their high command in the Federation are horribly corrupt.

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Exactly, which is why Verhoeven says "war makes fascists of us all".

I think any military conflict lasted long enough, no matter how justifiable its cause were, became pointless. And all that's left was retaliation out of instinct.

Look what concludes WWI: WWII.

Which is why the US decided to use A-Bomb, to end the war before the allies becomes the enemy themselves.

"War does not decide who's right, only who's left." - Bertrand Russell
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I must say I completely agree with the OP here. After all, in the story depicted in the series, despite the "nazi-like" governing regime of the Federation, the bugs did "strike" first, killed millions of non-military humans on Earth and made their intentions of wiping out mankind quite clear.
Therefor, given that the war engulfs all of mankind which probably means that there is a permanent martial law that humans are subject to, protesting against the war is a crime against humanity in itself. The leaders of such deviant movements are logically singled out and executed, completely in accordance with moral principles within the series' universe, irregardless of high level corruption,politics,bureaucracy and what not.

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There is actually no evidence in the first film that the bugs have any intention to destroy humanity or even have any awareness of us. The asteroid came from the 'direction' of P... And that is enough for the Federation to launch a pre-emptive invasion. The satire is fairly obvious.

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an asteroid travelling from bug space at 30 miles per second, which is fast for a meteor would take 50 million years to ghet here.

trashing books is like the Special Olympics even if you win & burn them all you are still a retard.

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They weren't using the asteroids as weapons, they're used to spread the species across the galaxy. Though I'd agree its still a weak plotline.

It is mentioned in the first film that the humans may have encroached on Arachnid territory first.

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The commentary by Verhoven states that the humans breaking the bug quarantine zone (oh those crazy mormons), caused the bugs to retaliate, setting off the war.

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I actually viewed the protesters as modern peace protesters. On and before 9/11, Islamic terrorists made their intentions quite clear to destroy the west, and killed thousands of people in different terrorist attacks. When the U.S and NATO attacked the "bugs" there were people protesting war against people that wanted to kill us. Terrorists=Bugs, or that's how I saw it.

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Its just following on from the original. In the first film they hint at dissent and disagreement with the government line, in the second one the propaganda is much more apparent, we see how the fed is struggling to get recruits in. So the third features protests, just like every war since Vietnam.

Not saying you're wrong. After all most media changed post 9/11.

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This thread just kind of shows me how many people REALLY didn't GET the 1st or 3rd movie and took it straight.

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It also made it clear that *beep* like Iraq and Vietnam will happen again and again and again...

I feel sorry for you if you were American.

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Some people realized the bugs are on the other side of the GALAXY in a small area, minding their own business. Humans went to war with the bugs in order to try and take over the bug planets.

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This is satire. The bugs are symbolic of the terrorists. Some people do not think that the U.S. should be involved in a war in Iraq and Afghanistan. The great thing about the U.S. is that if they want to protest, they have that right. The prevailing belief is that terrorists want to kill all Americans. Maybe they do. The bugs want to exterminate humanity (the American way of life). I don't know how Paul Verhoven feels about the war against terrorism but I do know that he isn't originally from the U.S. Were I to guess from the Starship Trooper movies, I'd say that he is against the war and this is his way of protesting, by making the American gov't look fascist and corrupt and filling our heads with propoganda. Regardless of the satire and the way that Verhoven may or may not feel, I enjoy the movies as a guilty pleasure. By the way, does anyone else equate Iraq with Arachnids (i-rack-nid), or is it just me?

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In my opinion in the first one, no one really knows if the bugs shot a meteor at earth or not. In this movie it seems like the high ranking officers of the federation are pulling the strings and everyone else are puppets. Anything they said in the first one about going to war has to be disregarded in terms of the brainwashing media the federation feeds to the citizens.

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I don't know how Paul Verhoven feels about the war against terrorism

He made one movie in the series, in 1997. His feelings about the wars, one way or another, have nothing to do with the sequels.

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Verhoeven's Starship Troopers is about the first Gulf War, so yes, the Arachnids are essentially Iraqis. I was teaching film at a small college in 2001, and after 9/11, a local reporter called me up and asked if I could suggest any movies to put the attack in perspective. Without hesitation, I said Starship Troopers. The film is still perfectly on point, as our Mideast wars unfortunately appear timeless.

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I know this is an old thread... but yeah that's what's killing me with the movie. Got up to the point where they shut hte power in the base off.

I get the filmmakers are trying to draw parallels with real life war protesters but here it doesn't work. it would be like saying war protestors in the UK were right, and while there were conciousness objectors and people obviously didn't want there to be a war I don't think most people were looking at British troops and spitting on them when it was German bombings hitting them

If the producers wanted to make an anti war film, fine, whatever, but to make a movie where alien bugs are trying to wipe out mankind into 'man is bad and war is evil' is nuts, because mankind gets wiped out, and it's not like the bugs are less aggresive then humans.

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yeah i agree the parallel doesn't really work, the terrorist/jihadist at least are human and can be communicated and reasoned with, and there's always the option to 'surrender' our way of life to avoid war, but with alien such as the bugs that is beyond human comprehension and impossible to negotiate, there's really no backing down once the fight started, even if the federation 'pre-empted' the bugs for political reasons. i guess heiline's original novel used the mindless bugs hordes that can't be reasoned with as metaphor for the (chinese) communists, but even that was proven wrong as communism eventually collapsed on itself and all the former communist countries turned more cut throat capitalist than the original capitalists countries.

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There will always be protesters. There were protesters to World War I and II, there will be protesters to a war against bugs trying to eliminate the human race. It's inevitable that not everyone will agree that war is the answer or that we should even continue as a species.

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The fact is people are idiots, someone can go out and murder and rape 100 children and if we try to execute them people will not only protest his execution but try to save him too. And yet these same people are fine with killing unborn children, some people are just *beep* up.

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