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Plotholes You've observed in both Seasons ?


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DEAN (to SAM) : YOU LEFT ME TO ROT IN PURGATORY

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Having just rewatched season 2 recently, I'll just name one that bugged me.

At one point earlier in season 2, Richard had temporarily died which turned off Cara's agiels.

Then towards the end of the season, Cara runs into another mord-sith who declares that her child that she had with Darken Rahl was in danger, which of course leads to her getting captured, blah blah.

Now, shouldn't Cara have realized that this child was dead because when Richard died, her agiels were turned off, thus severing the Rahl bloodline?

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Actually if i remember correctly from the books,the Lord Rahl needs to have the gift so that the Mord-Sith's bond to work.If her child wouldn't have the gift the bond would have still been severed.This is one of the reasons in the books Darken Rhal had many many children because he needed a gifted one to take on the bond.

*U need not be a movie pro or critic,u just need common sense*

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Why someone would defer to the books to explain away circumstances in an altered series is beyond me. The fact that it has been altered renders whatever explanation the books could provide almost useless unless the specific circumstances being explained mirror the narrative progression of those same circumstances in prose.

The issue RibbuM brings up comes not from the books- the show explains in dialogue by Darken Rahl within the same episode (while he has Cara captive) that the baby was killed right after birth because he couldn't allow the possible challenge to his authority and throne to survive. That her child was in danger was a lie told by Sister Dahlia to get her to leave the group so they could capture her.

In essence, the supposed plot hole RibbuM brings up is non-existent.

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I agree with u on the fact that explaining something from the show by using "external" means is quite unusual but u have to keep in mind that the basic rules for LotS universe are the same as the ones stated in the books even if the show deviated somewhat from the books' storyline.Just because the show doesn't state that there must be a gifted Rhal alive for the bond to work it doesn't negate the said rule either.So my logical asumption would be that some of the basic concepts present in the books are also present in the show even if they aren't specifically stated.

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but u have to keep in mind that the basic rules for LotS universe are the same as the ones stated in the books even if the show deviated somewhat from the books' storyline. Just because the show doesn't state that there must be a gifted Rhal alive for the bond to work it doesn't negate the said rule either.
And I would still contend that a child killed right after birth renders any perceived plot hole non-existent regardless of whether the books and show follow the same or different rules precisely because Richard was still the only other existing Rahl in either instance.

That there was no other living Rahl heir in the series, gifted or otherwise, renders the entire dispute a moot point; that the agiel were powerless is explained within the show's own circumstances by the baby being dead with no indication whatsoever that there need be anything special with a living heir; there is no explicit example within that same series that a gifted Rahl is required for them to be powered- only that there be a Rahl at all.

Now, we could certainly surmise that the rules hold the same, and I am certainly not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that there is no way to qualify that the rule exists in the series beyond supposition or that it needs to exist: the narrative has already circumvented any notion of a plot hole there within its own portrayal.

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Now, this was quite a while ago and the series isn't exactly super fresh in my head. (I should probably pop my DVDs in again some time soon)

I believe my argument was that when Richard died and it turned off the agiels, that was an indicator that there was absolutely no other living person carrying Rahl blood.

When Richard was alive again, they worked again. Now, if the agiels work through living members of Rahl's bloodline, then Cara clearly should have realized that her child was no longer alive.

If her child had been alive and thus his bloodline would have been able to power the agiels, then Richard's death never would have turned the agiels off in the first place.

Thus, Cara should never have fallen for the lies and trickery because she knew Richard's temporary death turned off her agiels, thus indicating that he was the last of Rahl's bloodline. Further indicating that her child was clearly dead.

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I have to agree that the fact that the ageiles stopped working when Richard died and should have told them all that Cara's child was not alive...but there's a bigger plot hole from all of this.

When Richard got to 'bond' with his brother Darken after Darken comes back and he confesses to Richard that he actually was the first Bayling (sp) they don't address that in the 'do over' when Richard put the boxes together and wasn't interrupted by Cara because Cara was not a mord sith. Darken is walking around very normally not killing people and not falling apart.

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