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Why I hated this show and am glad it was cancelled


Firstly, let me start by saying that I have been a loyal fan of all Terry Goodkind books. I bought Wizards First Rule around 1995 and since then have been voraciously reading each and every book that he released under the SoT banner.

So, when I heard in 2007 that a TV show was going to be made based on the books, I was very excited. I had invested many, many years in the books and for these magical words to be translated into a TV show was a dream come true for me. I eagerly waited for the premiere and was sorely disappointed when it aired.

The characters were hollow, the plot was completely different, the action was dull (the slo-mo scenes were really pointless), Richard was not the grim thoughtful man from the books replaced by a young emotional sissy, and worst of all the show seemed like a hodgepodge of other better sci-fi stories.

I am not solely bemoaning the fact that the TV show differed from the books. Of course this was unfortunate, but there have been many book to screen adaptations that have not been entirely faithful, but have met the mark in terms of overall quality, a notable example would be all three Lord of the Rings films. I could look past the obvious deviations from the plot if the show was actually good! It was not and so I left after about the first 7 episodes.

I expected a show that was like Rome and got a cheaper version of Hercules. Now I have started reading Game of Thrones and watching the TV show and I must say, it is far far more satisfying!

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wow. took u a year to start ranting? you clearly watched it again recently which means you kinda liked it

Formerly EmpatheticSympathy

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I saw it a while ago and I just sort of forgot about it. Today they were showing a re-run and I wondered what happened to the show (i.e. whether it got cancelled or not).

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Well that's just totally selfish. If you don't like a show all you have to do is not watch. For those of us who would like to see more, we don't have any options at the moment.

FYI - The show brought thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of new readers to T. Goodkind, so in being happy that it was cancelled you are not supporting him at all. Terry recognized the value of the show to the point that not only has he supported the Save Our Seeker campaign with donations and signed DVDs, he has also included a whole page on his new web site about the show and Save Our Seeker.

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Why am I being selfish? You want the show to continue (I presume) and I don't. We have differing opinions, that doesn't make either of our views any less valid. In any event I would rather TG sell the rights to a film studio and they make a film for each book (much like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter). Each book is a fairly tight story, except the later books, and with a bigger budget and better writing the films could be great.

Of course he would want more people to come buy his books. Sales of books = money. It's fairly basic economics.

In any case, whether the show was good or bad most people would still be curious about the books. It happens with everything. For example, apparently law school and med school applications increased because of shows like ER and Boston Legal (not quite the same analogy, but one that happened to spring into my mind).

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Thank you for posting your opinion, it was well stated and I appreciate your sentiments. I agree that the show was poorly done in comparison to the books, but I seperated the two and for the most part enjoyed the show. It would have been better if they would have cast Richard better and if they would have stayed more true to the books- which I have read several times. Once again, thank you for your bravery and posting what I assume that you would have surely known would have been an opinion that would not have been recieved very well.

Knowledge Without Wisdom is Dangerous.

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Your "glee" over it being cancelled is the selfish part. Basically saying that your glad those of us who enjoy the show no longer have it to watch. You have the option of not watching, but those of us who would like to see more LotS don't have that option.

Of course everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion about the show but to say your glad it's cancelled smacks of selfishness and it is this to which I referred.

As for Terry - he had to know that in selling the rights to Disney, that at the very least the show's content would be considerably toned down from that of the books. Still he choose to and I am assuming he had his reasons for going that route instead of another. He doesn't strike me a a person to enter in such contracts lightly.

And I won't even go down the path of why people who don't like shows bother to waste their time to come onto boards for those shows. If you don't like it - fine, just don't watch. Surely there are better ways to spend one's time...

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"Your "glee" over it being cancelled is the selfish part"

^^THIS!

Formerly EmpatheticSympathy

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"And I won't even go down the path of why people who don't like shows bother to waste their time to come onto boards for those shows"

Ummmm... last time I checked this was a forum for movies and television shows, it doesn't matter if you liked the show or hated it, the whole point of the forum is to discuss the show either way.

I agree with the original post in a way. Im glad it got cancelled because instead of having countless seasons of Seeker it leaves the door open for a more faithful adaption in the future. Game of Thrones has proven that a show based on a book can stay extremely faithful to the source material and still add stuff to keep it fresh for those who have read it.

And as for Goodkinds reasons for doing it... money, money, money and more money. he didn't care about what they were going to do with the show. Apparently he had had many offers for the rights before, then Diney comes along with more money than the rest and well... we get Seeker.

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Well I'm sure you would be "gleeful" if the show came back on. Would then that not be selfish of you? In any event I don't disagree that I am being selfish. Heck, everyone is selfish. We are all interested in furthering our own goals in life, these may be supporting our favourite TV show or ensuring that the civil war in Darfur ends. In both cases we don't really get any direct benefit save for the knowledge that we have done something.

TG gave his opinion on the show and you can read about it here: http://www.terrygoodkind.com/tv-legendoftheseeker.shtml. Even he agrees that the TV show and its characters are not "true to the book" and that this is a "negative" (direct quotes). The positive is that more people have started reading the book. If that's a benchmark for a good TV show then I'm sure you would agree that it is rather low. A good TV show needs to stand independently to some degree. It cannot simply be another vessel for content distribution.

This is one of my favourite books/series. It is very very important to me that I find a good adaptation of it at some point in my life. This I would think is enough reason for me to waste my time commenting.

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"Well I'm sure you would be "gleeful" if the show came back on. Would then that not be selfish of you? "

that is a stupid analysis. if the show came back on and you dont like it, just dont watch it. its simple as that. those who love the show cannot watch it even if they wanted to because its cancelled. its NOT the same thing.

Formerly EmpatheticSympathy

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Similarly, if you disagree with what I have to say, but cannot post anything constructive simply don't comment.

While I have a choice not to watch the show, as I have mentioned my choice is the same as not reading Naked Empire because I thought it was not a good book. While I had the choice not to read it, I would have been completely lost reading the remainder of the series.

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that is a stupid analysis. if the show came back on and you dont like it, just dont watch it. its simple as that. those who love the show cannot watch it even if they wanted to because its cancelled. its NOT the same thing.



x 1000! Sorry, OP, but I would have to agree with him. You don't have to watch the show if you don't like it. You have nothing to lose really.

Namaste bitches.

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It's not the time in commenting on what you didn't like about the show - you have your very own valid reasons for not liking the show. It's the fact that you take pleasure in the deprivation of other people and you took the time to state that and slap those of us who do like it in the face. (However, when I don't like a show or movie, I don't take the time to search out a site to post on it and then insult it and it's fans. I just change the chanel or put in a DVD of a show I do like...or I read or work on my Master's degree or play with my dogs or go on a date with my husband or clean my house...)

I do understand your feelings about seeing a series of books you love and enjoy put on screen in a manner that doesn't work for you. I live in fear that it will happen to one of my favorite series of books because the stories are so involved and intertwined that I don't know how they could possibly make a faithful adaptation.

However, it's one thing to post why the show didn't work for you, but you specifically said that you were glad it was cancelled.

Disney owns the rights for the forseeable future so you won't be getting a screen adaptation anytime soon. And once again, Terry had to know that selling the rights to Disney to be produced as a [bold]family[/bold] show available on network television (not cable or subscription) that it was going to be seriously watered down.

And if you do further research you will find that Terry did come round to the series. He was able to understand that it was never meant to be an adaptation of his work, but rather more stories using some of his ideas and his characters.

It's a pity that you can't enjoy this aspect of the show and enjoy the show as a seperate entity, but be that as it may, you do still have the option to just not watch unlike those of us who really enjoyed the show...

And for those who say that they think the show would have been more successful if it had stayed faithful to the books...well there is no way to know that. It would have had to be on a cable or subscription chanel and would not have had the access to as many viewers worldwide as LotS has.

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It was my understanding that when the rights were first sold Disney was not involved yet, that it was a deal between Terry Goodkind, Sam Raimi, and Rob Tappert; and that Disney came on board later.

This board is for discussion about the show, not a fan only meeting place. One sided discussions are boring and I welcome the differing opinions.

Knowledge Without Wisdom is Dangerous.

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yeah OP is ......dude thanks for commenting like 8 months after the fact. GOOD JOB!!! :) Idiot.

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I don't believe that was accurate as Disney/ABC was footing the bill. Now I do think that Raimi and Tappert was involved from the very beginning but I am fairly certain so was ABC. Regardless they own the rights now and Goodkind knew before the deal was final who was going to be producing.

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The OP is probably glad that it's over because now someone else can pick it up and revamp it, not because they take pleasure in other people's misery. It's like when I am glad that the Buffalo Bills win a game. It's not the millions of the opposing team's fans' misery that is making me happy (well, unless it's Miami ), it's the success of something I have invested time and emotions into.

As for why the OP came onto this board in the first place, they were a fan of the series for over a decade. I know you don't read the books, but the written material evokes quite a bit of emotion (understatement) while reading it and Goodkind is very adept at getting you to love his characters. Honestly, I find it unfair and tiring that you continually attack book fans that come on the board to comment on how they don't like the show. While the title of this thread can be seen as mean, nothing in the original post suggests that the OP is Hitler. As for the title, "I am an avid fan of the books and was excited about the show, but was unfortunately let down by the character and plot growth to the point that I feel angry such a version of my beloved series exists" is too long so I think the original title sums it up nicely.

Fans of the book series have more attachment to the material than strictly tv fans, so it is in no way analogous to you "just change the channel... or I read or work on my Master's degree". Firstly, to insinuate that book fans who come to this board and share their dislike are in turn lazy, uneducated and less successful than you is offensive and just makes you sound ignorant. You know nothing about the OP, yet you make a quick judgement to interpret their words in the worst way possible. Yes, there are some trolls, but a book fan coming to this board solely to share their dislike of the show does not automatically make them one like it does if someone goes to the Glee board to say the show is horrible after watching the pilot.

This is because book fans have just been through more with the material than strictly tv fans. It's like comparing a friend you have had since elementary school with a friend you just made on your softball team in high school. Both people like you and are considered your friend, but which is more likely to step in and hold your hair back after a night of drinking because they are worried about you? The new friend might get someone to help you and then continue on partying (you flipping through channels), but the old friend would stop partying and take care of you (book fans taking time out of their day to comment). And it isn't "well you've only been a fan for 2 yrs and I've been there since the beginning", it's the fact that book fans have witnessed more of these characters' experiences and emotions than the show was able to show.

Anyway, now that I am a little removed from the show and have had Game of Thrones to spoil me, I agree with the OP. It angers me that Legend of the Seeker turned out the way it did. I watched it because Bridget and especially Tabrett made me giddy, and because I was intrigued to see just how crazily they could twist the material. I'm sad it's gone because LotS is better than no SoT, but I'm glad it's cancelled because it gives me hope that it might come back revamped since books-to-tv/movies seems to be the trend right now (especially with fantasy series).

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None of your post changes the fact that anyone can choose to not watch vs. those of us who enjoy the show not having that option.

While I have not read the books, nor do I intend to, I did acknowledge how I can understand the OP being upset by seeing something he/she loved coming to screen in a disappointing way. That is in no way knocking the book lovers! (I have some very nice on-line relationships with the book lovers that have developed as a result of LotS, so I am in no way bashing the book lovers. I love books too, just the graphic nature of the SoT series doesn't appeal to me, not does TG tendency to be preachy.)

My main issue with the nature of the post is the selfishness of it and the glee to poster took in having the show cancelled.

I see no logical reason that the OP couldn't have said "I was disappointed in the series and I hope that it gets revamped one day closer to the books" instead of taking glee in the fact that others would really like more LotS.

I totally understand that sentiment...even if it's not one that I, personally, would take the time to post should I be in those shoes.

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Okay, so I'm in the somewhat unique position of having watched the show before reading the books (currently nearing the end of Chainfire). That said, I'm glad to have been able to enjoy the show first, because had I watched it after reading the books I would have been angrier than angry at what Raimi did to Goodkind.

You can tell who here has read the books and who hasn't just by the arguments made by the posters. Auroracat clearly hasn't read books because (s)he can't grasp the argument that the existence of the show somehow diminishes the books by its very nature (no personal offense intended). After I read the 2nd book, I remarked to my cousin (who is a fan of both book and show) that it felt like Raimi simply read the back cover of Stone of Tears and made the rest up front there. The adaptation is horrendous; they changed about as much as they conceivably could have.

While I did, obviously, enjoy the show and would have liked to see it continue, I cannot begrudge the OP his position that the world would be better off without it. But let's not forget that they screwed stuff up right from the start with Richard and Darken's relationship, and the book of counted shadows, followed by myriad other changes that served no logical purpose. The original was great. The show was good.

P.S. The show had to end because Bridget got pregnant anyhow. It absolutely could not go on with a pregnant Kahlan... it would be blasphemy against the books.

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Or (God forbid) they *gulp* recast Kahlan...

Knowledge Without Wisdom is Dangerous.

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"You can tell who here has read the books and who hasn't just by the arguments made by the posters. Auroracat clearly hasn't read books because (s)he can't grasp the argument that the existence of the show somehow diminishes the books by its very nature (no personal offense intended)."

First of all - it's very sad for someone if the mere existence of a tv show diminshes his/her enjoyment of a book. You can't seperate them in your brain? I've seen plenty of movies based on books and am able to enjoy the book and not have it diminished by a "poor" screen representation.

Secondly - I stated that I understand the poster's issue with a movie/tv representation not living up to the books, so that also negates the observation. There is a series of books that I love and I know the tv/movie rights have been sold. I am totally anxious about the possible outcome, but if the screen version doesn't live up to the book version it will in no way diminsh the awesomeness of the books or my enjoyment of them.

This being said, if the screen version isn't "just like" the book version, it doesn't mean that I won't enjoy it for what it is on a stand alone basis.

And none of the arguments I've seen presented in this thread address the selfishness of the "glad it was cancelled" sentiment. If you don't like - don't watch. You have that option but for those of us who like, the cancellation means that there is no option for us.

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The OP was 'glad it was cancelled' because it was a show that was, pretty much, making a mockery of what they had devoted a good amount of their own time into. If you had dedicated so much of your time to something like that, and got so excited about the prospect of a t.v. show being made only to have that same t.v. show turn out to be a HUGE disappointment to you, you'd be pretty peeved too. And I'm quite certain that you would be happy if it were to get cancelled as well.

Now, obviously this isn't the case, as you've said numerous times you were able to differentiate between the show and book, and that is entirely your right to do. So, that in mind, you have no idea how the OP feels. I do. Not necessarily with this case in particular, but other instances where something I loved so much was destroyed in some way/shape/or fashion. It is a terrible feeling. That said, I'm just trying to present you an outlook to the OP's 'glad it was cancelled' sentiment. The OP wasn't attacking you, or insulting you, personally. On the contrary, in comparison to threads I've seen with similar names, the OP approached their topic with far more eloquence, they weren't simply trolling for the sake of trolling, they were simply giving their opinion. YOU were the ones that then proceeded to jump on the OP. It wasn't 'selfish', it was simply a tactlessly worded statement that begun this all, which isn't a sin.

Frankly, your point is just as selfish as the OP's. You might not think it is but... You wouldn't, would you? Just as the OP probably doesn't see their initial comment as being selfish.

Are you simply an unbiased third-party viewer who has no personal preference in the matter? Do you just want the show to come back due to the fans that had followed it unwaveringly since its first episode? I'll take the liberty and assume probably not. For your own wants, needs, and desires, you want the show to come back. That's selfish. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that! But it's selfish, nonetheless. Yes, it's not necessarily the same as the OP's option to just not watch the show, but that doesn't matter. I'm not saying it's the same. Right now, I'm not discussing the OP's selfishness, which is a moot point. I'm discussing the matter of the tea pot calling the kettle black.

It was selfish that Terry Goodkind wanted to write a series of novels. It was selfish that a t.v. show was to be made based off those novels. It was selfish that the show was then cancelled. But I digress.

Long story short, however you wish to measure it, the OP's initial statement is equally as selfish as any comment you've made thus far stating your contrary opinion. '...glad it was cancelled' '...not glad it was cancelled'. Through laws of logic, those two comments are virtually the same. They hold the same weight, only contradicting one another. These laws dictate then that your comments are, in fact, just as selfish as the OP's. Contrarily, if you are not being selfish, then the OP is not being selfish. The decision is yours, but you can't have both. It can only be one or the other. The fact that in one case the OP would have the option to just not watch the show, whereas you don't have a similar option, doesn't affect this in the least, and you reverting back to that argument time and time again doesn't make any of this any less true.

You disagree with the OP's choice of title for this thread. That's fine. Then disagree with it. But for the sake of your own appearance, and for future reference, understand what, exactly, it is you're arguing about before you so fully devote yourself to the argument. You have two entirely different arguments going on. Is the OP being selfish, or is it simply unfair that in the OP's preferred scenario you wouldn't have a choice to watch the show at all? Those are two different variables. You can't simply just blur the lines between them to suit your own gains. If you're going to read a bit too far into a bad choice of words, then proceed to read into everything not simply nitpick at what you want and then ignore everything else.


Please note, if you were offended by any of this, I apologize. I simply wanted to devote a post addressing the so-called 'selfishness of the "glad it was cancelled" sentiment' as per your wish. I do also feel quite strongly about you throwing the term 'glee' around, but you didn't ask for that, so I'll keep that to myself.

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Wow. Lotsa words. No opinion. No value. Are you a politician?

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Wow, an entire treatise on the logic of my argument! A flawed one at that. Selfish because I wished a show had continued not just for my own enjoyment but many others as well vs. being glad it was cancelled....

The big difference is that if the show is on the air it is available to watch or not by individual choice. No one loses out. The books are still there to be enjoyed. But if the show is cancelled those who want to watch can't - there is no choice..

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It's not the time in commenting on what you didn't like about the show - you have your very own valid reasons for not liking the show. It's the fact that you take pleasure in the deprivation of other people and you took the time to state that and slap those of us who do like it in the face.


that's the reason why site and boards like this exists to warn people that a show or movie is crap and yes this series was total crap and an insult to the books and it's fans and even it's writer, and he admitted that it was crap. and i'm also glad it got cancelled aswell and your comments about selfish OMG how old are you, your a fan of the series that means you never read the books or read the books after you saw the series, how do i know, because everybody that was first a fon of the books hates the series and that incl it's writer, now that what i call selfish , putting yourself in front of all the true fans that see there beloved characters being mangled and raped and turned into crap, only because you like the series and worst of all is that your even putting down a true fan that has every right to complain and like all true fans being glad they stopt this crap series. it's you who doesn't belong here on a message board putting down true fans and putting up comment that make others think it was a great series and that it shouldn't have been cancelled. your not a true fan of the Wizards Rules series so keep your opnions for yourself and leave that to people that have read the books first and have the right on sharing there real and true usefull.

And for those who say that they think the show would have been more successful if it had stayed faithful to the books...well there is no way to know that. It would have had to be on a cable or subscription chanel and would not have had the access to as many viewers worldwide as LotS has.


how rude of you to even say this, saying this is a slap in the face of real fans, who the hell do you think you are to even have the nerve to say this. if you buy someones very succesfull, with a wide fanbase and you don't stay true to the books, (sure you can change what works better on the screen then in books, like they did LOTR, Hobbit, Ironman, Thor, Capt America, Hamlet, Romeo and Julliet, Harry Potter, and many other movies and series)you insulting it's fanbase and little insects that come later afther they have seen it's crap product have no rights at all!!!!! nothing in that crap series was The Wizards Rules period, if your not going to stick to the story and characters and even the mood why the hell name it afther the books and use there names, just to lure it's fanbase to your crap is a crime in my eyes.

And once again, Terry had to know that selling the rights to Disney to be produced as a [bold]family[/bold] show available on network television (not cable or subscription) that it was going to be seriously watered down.


yes he is a money grabbing *beep* that has no respect for his own creations. believe me Thierry if you where smart like Rowlings you would have made more money suckerrrrrrrrr

yes i know this is a old message but had to say this, cause others may google this series afther have read the books ans see hey a series cool, to make sure they know not worth it, the series is crap and had to be cancelled much sooner and even never should have been aired in the first place

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I don't think you understand what selfish means abhiroopb. See no one cared one way or another if you watched the show; if you don't like it don't watch. However, you have absolutely nothing to gain by the show being canceled other then elevating your ego by justifying you opinion of the quality of the show. You are there for putting your ego above the desire of millions of people who watched the show.

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Actually he does. With this show being cancelled now the possibility of a darker, more faithful adaptation could be made. Personally I would rather there be this possibility then the show that was on the air which was just using the names of the characters and that was basicaly the only correlation between the books and the show besides small plot point.

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It's very rare that someone likes a show or movie based on a book or books they've read. I've never read anything by Goodkind, so it didn't influence my opinion of the show. But of course, if I really really liked the show, I might possibly find the actual books a disappointment. I think the show itself was fairly well done and entertaining. Most fantasy shows bore me to tears, but this one I liked.

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I did not read the books, this show sucked balls REALLY REALLY BAD......terrible acting... terrible casting.. terrible story line IM GLAD TOO IT WAS CANCELED

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This show sucked big time,it was another attempt to make another Xena(another terrible crap).Absolute garbage!
Craig Horner is an absolute joke and the guy can't act.It is not a surprise considering that Robert ugly chump Tapert is behind this *beep*

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You are selfish besouse if you don't like TV show you just don't hawe to watch it and it dosen't mater to you if shows continue or not but for as who lowe this TV show it is wery inportant that they continue.

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Are you daft? If the show was still on then the possibility of a more faithful, darker version can't be made. So the people wanting this show to continue are the selfish ones, not those that supported the author while he was writting the source material. Get bent.

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No meeter how you put it in the end you are just a selfish spoiled child who thinks that only shows that suit your taste should exist and all others should be canceled.

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if it was to continue, in what way would it be harming you. Stick to the books if you are so passionate about them.

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It's selfish, because sometimes people in charge read opinions such as yours, and think them significant! The term 'Party Pooper' comes to mind!!

I will not equivocate; I will not excuse; I will not retreat a single inch; AND I WILL BE HEARD!

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"FYI - The show brought thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of new readers to T. Goodkind, so in being happy that it was cancelled you are not supporting him at all. "

Actually, I've never read the books, and, thanks to the show, I probably never will. I was so irritated by the show's formulaic scenarios, uninspired dialogue, massive plot holes, unintelligent characters, and ponderous self importance, that if the books are anything like the show, I can't see the point in reading them.

If the show had been well done, even if it had been different from the books, I might have read them. Too bad.

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"Well that's just totally selfish. If you don't like a show all you have to do is not watch."


-Many people took the latter option which resulted in poor viewer ratings which lead to cancellation. It's not the forum ranters and haters that screams so high a show gets cancelled. It happens because people don't watch it. Maybe next time you should think twice before telling people not to watch? It seems kind of counter productive for you and kind of stupid

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Damn. Logic prevails. Perhaps there is some hope in this Constitutional Republic.

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He is as entitled to tell people why he thought a show was crap as you are to tell people why you worship it and want to turn it into your own secret religion.

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Well said.

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Now, now. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if he or she did not like the show then he or she did not like it. Not all shows are for everyone. I, however, loved the series and was so disappointed when they decided not to renew for a third season. I also got interested in the book series now that I have more time to read or listen to the audiobook version which works best for me since I am usually busy with other things.

It was similar to the series Senc8, some loved it and some hated it and some were mixed. I loved it and the whole concept, but I was not demeaning, not saying that you have been, to anyone that did not care for it and spoke to them a bit more politely, understanding why it was not for everyone and we actually had some good talks and some of them were able to see the appeal and rethought their initial decision. I explained that the characters represented people in out society, we just were not aware of until recently, though some knew long before the acceptance of same sex marriage or couples.

But,getting back to the show. He or she said that they did not like it and probably because they expected something else, probably it got blown up in a way that may not have been possible due to the limited resources and some things that were not so feasible. However, they did not say that they advocated for it to be cancelled, just that they were personally glad that it was.

I was very disappointed about it too and I thought it was a good series. I do not know why they did this. It had a great cast of regulars and guest stars. I wish it was still showing because I am sure they would have gotten a better budget and quite possibly been a show the OP would have liked. I always wondered how the series would have progressed.

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Wow. You really base your criticism of an opinion on TIMING? Perhaps others have better things to do in the real world than track crappy rip-offs of great books until we see them in re-runs.

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After reading the books I came to realized there would be no way they could of filmed half of it for regular TV!! As far as cable goes I don't have HBO so I don't know how graphic Spartacus is so I can't say how it would of faired on there.(I wish I had HBO I would like to see Game of Thrones) And the cost??In film form some of it may of even garnered the dreaded NC-17 rating.

I think the writers of the show did very well with taking bits from the books and reworking them. Over all, even with the changes and the episodes that had no plot based off the books, it was an enjoyable show.

The trouble with it being a syndicated show meant that it was to be sold off and didn't mean anything to Disney!

After the success of Heroes I wish NBC would of picked it up. I think it would of worked out well for them instead of the travesty that WAS "The Cape"!



TO THE BAT CAVE......I FIND YOUR LACK OF FAITH DISTURBING!!

P.S. I HATE BLACK OPS NINJAS!!MY M-60 AWAITS YOU IN NUKE TOWN!

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Okay I agree with your sentiment. But for TV show to follow the book literally especially the mythic scenario and fighting could be very expensive. You mentioned Rome but that show mainly focused on daily lifestyle of both ruling class and mass people. It does cover every aspect, for example the invasion of Alexandria by romans. But Legend of the seeker did focus on the book with its limited budget. And for that I really appreciate the production crews. I would really love the revival the show. After all it was Terry Goodkind himself wanted the show to be continued.

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This series was a major disappointment.

I was not expecting a 100% translation from the books - they are far too violent for ABC, after all, but at least a faithful adaptation. This show was not even close. This is not the same story I remembered reading. The only similarities it has are the names of some of the characters, artifacts and places.

Even the name, "Legend of the Seeker", sounds corny and stupid.

What about the romance between Richard and Kahlan? What about the feelings that Kahlan began to have for Richard BEFORE he was even named the Seeker? What about Richard's gradual discovery about who and what Kahlan is, and her reluctance to tell him out of fear of disappointing or hurting him?

Goodkind sold himself out with this tripe. He should be ashamed.

I still love his books, but this series was an experiment gone very, very bad. Goodkind should divert his energy to make a reboot on Showtime or Starz, one that is close to being, how shall we say, "truthful" to the books.

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I keep reading that Terry Goodkind liked the show. How can his fans argue against his seal of approval? It's a losing argument.

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All Goodkind likes is that it brough fans to the books and made him more money,

I mean at an interview at comic con or dragon con or... some other con (anyone help me out? was looking for the interview again for a friend and i cant remember where it was) he prettymuch said the show is nothing like the book, or that the characters werent accurate.

He just gave it his seal of approval cus it makes him the moolah.

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I do believe that it was at the 2010 ComiCon when we found out that they were not renewing for a third season.

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Legend of the seeker did focus on the book with its limited budget


What limited budget?, it was like a million dollars per episode. Thats why noone else took it on after it was cancled.





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I think it was actually more like 2 million per episode, but that is an extremely tight budget for a one-hour action series, especially one that requires CGI. Creating filmed projects is a very expensive business.

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Wow, reading the OP's comment made me feel sad for him, that people can be so frustrated over a GOOD TV-show.

This TV-Show got recommended to me by my best friend who read the books about three times now, I think and he kept saying me that I had to watch this. I'm mostly more of a Sci Fi fan myself (Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, Supernatural,Fringe,...) so I wasen't really interested in this show. Watching this TV-show with a bit of an attitude like 'yeah this is gonne be dumb' I must say I'm very glad I watched it. This is very entertaining, a good story and very well acting. I might even borrow the books from him if theres more to the story inthere, although I read only one book 'voluntary' in my life (I'm 33 now) and absolutly have no patience to read a book :P . The special effects aswell are very good and offcourse choosing New-Zealand as a filming location makes it a perfect combination of everything a good fantasy show needs.
The show needed a bit of time to get 'rolling' (like most shows I've watched) but 1/3 of season one I kept watching one episode after another. I saw the complete two seasons in a week's time and am sorry that it got cancelled. I'll be probably watching this show again when I want to see some good fantasy show again as there are not many like these unfortunatly (don't ruin it now by saying I should watch Xena, Rome or Hercules cos those shows are really awfull in many ways)

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Comparing this show to Rome is ridiculous.Rome was the most expensive tv show in history, it included nudity, extreme violence and was not based on a book. It was on HBO where anything goes. I know imdb is open for everyone to post, intelligent and unintelligent alike but when you watch a tv show, you enjoy it for what it is you don't compare dancing with the stars to Lost. Those are shows from two different genres with 2 different budgets for 2 different audiences...seems obvious I know but clearly not to the OP.

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I might even borrow the books from him if theres more to the story inthere, although I read only one book 'voluntary' in my life (I'm 33 now) and absolutly have no patience to read a book :P .

Don't, they are complete rubbish! Read something good, instead.

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Yeah, just because a movie or show is a bad adaption doesn't mean it is automatically bad in its own right. Stanley Kubrick's The Shinning, while a very good movie, is an awful adaption of the novel, for instance.

I haven't read the books this show was based on, but I think it's pretty good.

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I had a completely different reaction than the OP here. I liked it because it was different than the source material it was based upon. I don't even watch HBO's A Game of Thrones for that same reason. People say it sticks to the book's storyline. So why bother watching it? I already know what happens and every week will be another snoozefest. Seeker actually improved the farther and farther it got away from Goodkind's original storyline. And of course there was the #1 reason I watched it. Eyecandy.

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The main thing that worries me is this series will delay a more faithful adaptation for a mature audience indefinately. The Sword of Truth would have been an excellent property to adapt into a Game of Thrones style adult series. Instead, we got a show that's more in line with Supernaturals demographics.

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This is exactly what I was talking about!

Thanks for understanding my concern. Basically, what I wanted was a Game of Thrones style adaptation, not Hercules or Xena.

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Why? I still don't get that. Do all you people want just some cookie cutter direct transcription of text to script? With all of the unspoken text voiced on screen by voiceover? Newsflash... that would suck. Unwatchable. Seeker kept me watching BECAUSE it wasn't chained to the plot of the books. It was written by folks who understand this little thing called "pacing." You can't just say "oh, we've filmed the whole thing than just chopped it up into hour long segments." Each episode has to work as an individual story (with the ebb and flow of conflict and resolution) or it can never gain viewers. People over on the Game of Thrones board are starting to whine and cry about the quality of the adaptation. Read some of those fanboys tear streaked posts. Do you really want to agree with that lot? Now that the fanboys are crying foul... I might actually start watching it. It might be different enough to be interesting now.

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No. The series COMPLETELY changed the entire relationships and motivation of the story. "Pacing" does not account for ruining a unique story in a tired genre so the writing staff can follow a norm to which everyone on the set can relate.

I bet those involved are pretty pissed off that "Game of Thrones" did it right. Changes in the action are fine. Changes in the characters and motivation are not.

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Where are people getting comparisons to Hercules/X. Because they both had swords?

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That's actually kind of legit. Both had similar production values and lots of the Hercules folks wound up in the Seeker production team. So they wound up with a similar look, and then the comparisons.

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Actually we don't agree, I watched Seeker and enjoyed it. The further it went from the established plot of the books the better and better the TV show got. I have yet to bother with GOT, and won't unless they do venture in a new direction. I already own the freakin books, why the crap would any sane person pay a second time for the EXACT SAME STORY? Unless they start to change some stuff, PASS. I'd catch an ep here or there if something I wanted to see was coming up... if it were on free network TV. Pay cable... PASS. I may watch a couple if it shows up on netflix someday... nope, well don't care anyway.

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No, you did that right I think. I don't think I saw the post ladder right.

Sometimes it's hard to tell on this board.

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I read the books before the series. My wife and I were living in Philadelphia and were hoping this would become a weekly event for us, because we were both huge fans. We were done by episode three. I get that some people liked it, and I'm sad they lost a show they enjoyed (that happened to me with Pushing Daisies, thanks to the writers' strike and Firefly, because Fox is dumb).

That said, it makes me happy that there may be a more expedited process to a version I would enjoy. It makes me giggle when I see people say "a faithful adaptation would be boring", because obviously Game of Thrones, Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings all struggled to get by.

Either way, OP, I see your point.

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But that's exactly the point. To the fanboys those examples AREN'T "faithful" which is why I laugh. Go to the GoT, Harry Potter, and LotR boards and see all of the "wasn't that way in the book, why they change it" threads. I watched fanboys LEAVE THE THEATER on PREMIERE NIGHT of Fellowship of the Ring because "durrr no TOM BOMBADILL... SELLOUTS." Game of Thrones IS weak and boring. I know exactly what's going to happen in every single episode, even though I've only seen 2 or 3 episodes. Can you tell me what the point of watching would be? I'm not a shut-in fan-nerd who's only seen "teh bewbs" on HBO, so where else is the appeal? Seeker was more interesting, period. Even though I was familiar with the characters, there was a reason to watch every week... A NEW EPISODE. Not just "oh, the TV version is out." Seeker didn't have the budget GoT has thrown at it, but it has something better... WRITERS. Not just editors and adaptors. Not every story was a slam dunk, but at least it was new every week. That's as opposed to the "no effort" going into the GoT creative process.

That's why I do say a faithful adaptation IS boring. I guess the majority disagrees with me. Cool, explains all of the reality tv popularity I can't fathom either.

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So i get that u either didn't read the books and u formed an opinion based on the reviews or u read the books but had to read the reviews after because of ur lack of brain capacity to form an opinion.Both say it all about how much ur opinion should count.Maybe when u learn to think for urself and u can actually criticize something on your own u will have a valid opinion.
Every review of either a book or a show is subjective,no critic can be inpartial thus all the reviewing system is flawed and useless.A puritan would ban these books because of the sex and violence,a Tolkien fanboy would ban them because they don't have orcs and halflings(see the above post about Shanara)and so on...


*U need not be a movie pro or critic,u just need common sense*

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Exactly.

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Screw you!!!

It's true that the show doesn't exactly follows the story of the books by Goodkind. That doesn't mean that the show itself wasn't good.
It's a shame that the show was cancelled and I hope that they will reassume filming it in a year or two (like some of the actors think, suggest)

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Yes, the show itself was terrible. If you think it was good you are watching too much crap.

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Frankly you need an attitude adjustment. If you don't like a show don't watch it. No reason to take pleasure in a show being cancelled as while you hated it, others probably liked or even loved it.... with the ever increasing number of cable channels out there, I see room for many shows that I don't like and am happy when new shows are created and wont find joy in any being cancelled until after the existing channels have gotten so saturated with content that they no longer have the space for reruns... but when you have a multitude of home shopping channels and channels dedicated to reruns from the 70s... well there needs to be more content whether I like it or not.

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