If she wasn't dead...


why didn't she get hungry or thirsty in 3 or 4 days?
That was the only thing that kept me believing she was dead throughout!

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They try to explain it away using the drug he gave her along with the decreased room temp...however it is such a stretch that it is blatantly illogical. It is not possible to go without food and water for those periods. Even if you decrease your metabolic rate and activity level it still is not possible. Her electrolytes would have been abnormal. Her blood sugar levels would have stooped soo low that she would have been in a coma. The combination of both would have at the very least altered her behavior, thinking ability, and ability to even communicate. Even after one day, much less after several days. The entire movie pulled multiple stretches. Soo many that it was utterly ridiculous. This is just one of them. Even after the director tries to explain it away it's still sloppy.

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have you never been really sick?

many people (its happened to me once or twice) get real sick to the point they literally dont eat or drink for a few days. we do see her getting weaker as time goes by, probably due to the fact she wasnt eating or drinking.

but yeah, its not hard or that bad to go a simple 3 days without, especially if you're sick and sleeping 90% of the time. now had this taken place over a week or so then i'd understand the issue.

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True and that is a valid point. However not eating because you are sick and the circumstances she was under are different. We're talking about a fully active young adult who skipped dinner and then went for 3 days without food or water. Even when you're sick you still at some point take in fluids or eat small quick foods. And you'll notice the effects from not eating or drinking. She didn't eat or drink a thing in 3 days yet she didn't notice dry mouth, dry throat, hunger pangs, body aches, stomach noises, etc...this is not possible. At some point in the middle of the night her body would have told her "hey stupid, we're still alive down here, get us the eff outta here and stop at Wendy's on the way home".

Also, most people who are sick refrain from eating only as a way to avoid nausea, diarrhea, and other complications. It is widely known that when you are sick is when you should increase your caloric intake. Avoiding food merely exacerbates the progression of illness. And let's not forget that she went that period of time without food or water yet she was still able to run through a house. At some point of that whole fiasco her body would have found numerous ways to inform her without any logical doubt that she was alive. At some point, even after not eating or drinking she would still have had to urinate or defecate. So in 3 days her body gave her no solid evidence that it was alive? Was she soo stupid that she didn't even realize she was still breathing? Haha...!!

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If he's an evil, serial killer mastermind with access to paralysis-inducing drugs and even digs the *beep* graves, I'm sure he could slip her some nutrients while she was unconscious?

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How? Or how without her knowing? I'd like to hear this...

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ng tube. As in naso-gastric tube. Its rubber, but you put it in the freezer to harden it, (just enough) coat it with ky jelly, then slide it into the stomach. Listen with stethoscope to make certain it is in fact, in the stomach.

Then you can give meds (crushed, unless they are liquid) water, ensure or anything you need to administer. Pharmacies in hospitals can create a full balanced 24 hour regimen that contains exactly to the nth degree what the body needs in the way of fat, sugar minerals etc.

You withdraw the tube 3 or 4 hours before she wakes, clean the nose with a qtip to remove any residual lubricant and the person would never know.

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So in 3 days her body gave her no solid evidence that it was alive? Was she soo stupid that she didn't even realize she was still breathing? Haha...!!
No, during the 3 days her body gave her all kinds of evidence she was alive. It took quite a while before she actually believed she was really dead. Prior to that (very near the beginning of the movie) she even exclaims, "but I'm breathing!! It wasn't the fact that she was still breathing that Deacon was trying to hide from her, it was the fact that her breath was warm that he was trying to hide. He turned the heat down at one point to make her body colder for the viewing, in case anyone touched her.

What's more unrealistic is that if he'd been shooting her up with that paralysis drug that made her heartbeat so slow it was undetectable, she certainly wouldn't be running around (even though they DID at least make her look somewhat clumsy) let alone getting off the embalming table, walking, talking, & looking fairly alert & sane.

I wondered if she ever had to go to the bathroom. Deacon says on several occasions, "you people go around pissing and sh***ing..." in reference to the 'dead' people. If she'd been alive, she would've had to at least pee at some point, no matter how dehydrated she might've gotten. On the other hand, corpses don't crap & piss (well, the bowels might release unintentionally) but it seems Deacon's comment is aimed more at living people who disgust him, who are just walking through their lives "dead," not really appreciating life.

Someone really could last 3 days without food & water, although they'd be in far worse shape than what Anna looked like. They'd be weak, their muscles would ache, they'd be getting delirious...they'd look a lot more like a corpse for real than Anna & her hot bod. One time I had food poisoning so bad (with explosive diarrhea, lol) that if I took one gulp of water, it would shoot out my ass 5-10 minutes later, before my body could even begin to process it. I held off going to the hospital - I kept thinking I was over it - but finally at the end of day 3 I went to the ER. I hadn't eaten a thing for 5 days, either (that just flew out of me as well), and I couldn't even walk out to the car let alone get off the bed under my own power. The nurse told me I was going into organ failure & they put me on a saline IV drip with potassium. Unfortunately, real life is nowhere NEAR what is typically depicted in movies. So saying that she didn't eat or drink for 3 days, PLUS she was on that drug, she likely would have been a hallucinating, delirious idiot when she wasn't comatose. And sleeping naked on a steel table?! She's be a shivering mess, especially when he turned the heat off!

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Lol completely false, you can go days without eating and have no problems at all. it's called fasting and that clearly is not a strecht in the movie.

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the drugs kept her heartrate and metabolism so low, she didn't use any energy thus she didn't need any food;
like some sort of a hybernation; a bear doesn't get up to get food during the winter for months

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Body begins to suffer irreparable harm after:

3 minutes with no oxygen
3 days with no water
3 weeks with no food

These are by no means exact, but an easy way to remember roughly the bodies limits. In truth the 1st one is too long, But in a chilled morgue with no exertion, its close. Like they say on tv, don't try it.

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Where are you getting your numbers because I've always read you could live 5-7 days without water and up to 14 days without food.

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Yes, you can even fast easily 5 days without water, water is synthtesed by burning fat, like the camel does in the desert.

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the drugs kept her heartrate and metabolism so low, she didn't use any energy thus she didn't need any food
That brings up an interesting question, actually. At one point early on she's sitting up on the table checking herself for a pulse and obviously not finding one. Now I can believe it's possible to slow the heart rate down enough to the point that it's virtually undetectable, but to do so would deprive the body of oxygen sufficient to be awake and sitting up and flailing one's arms around as she was. If your heart rate is THAT low, you're pretty much unconscious -- which she clearly wasn't.

Yet another plot hole.

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good one; I was waiting to see if someone saw that too and came up with that, LOL.

that's indeed a good one; if she was in some sort of hybernation-state, she couldn't have checked her pulse

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The more important question would be: Didn't she need to pee or -- ahem -- otherwise need to use the bathroom? Even if you skipped dinner, the next day your body would still need to eliminate wastes from before. And that, my friends, would be an absolute giveaway. Ghosts may mimic living people in many ways, but would they need to pee and poo? I don't think so.

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Not that you will read this but he says to her, "you think because you breathe, piss, shit, you're alive!" So I'm assuming that that was put in there to cover his victims use of the washroom.

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my by she feed by injections!

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She was in shock .. you don't have much of an appetite when you are in shock.

"A man that wouldn't cheat for a poke don't want one bad enough".



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The implication was she did. There is a line where he says "Just because you P I s s and S h I t you think you are alive."

That at least answers that aspect of it.

When she is dressed for the funeral, Deacon opens the door for her to give her a final chance. When she leaves she doesn't embrace "living" as one would expect - she embraced the death. She came back he commented how he thought she might be the one who was "different from the others" - meaning his message got through to her. It didn't.

I think he killed Paul with the embalming tool at the end since Paul realized Anna had been buried alive after all. Paul was obviously in pain though he was paralyzed. Anna never seemed to be in pain - also of note is that Anna was also never embalmed as we can tell.

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I revisited this film recently and didn't enjoy it nearly as much as when I originally saw it years ago.

She was obviously alive and was murdered by a serial killer.

The director places silly red herrings in the film, that now look like desperate attempts to make us question what is going on - but they fail miserably. No sense can be made of any of those attempts either. Example: Near the end of the film when the caretaker allows her to step outside, we are shown a macabre moment where the victim is inundated by strange women in black robes while her fiancée stands and watches. Huh? Just write it off as side effects from the drugs combined with malnutrition I suppose. But it reeks of desperation at this point.

I suppose the film is a ham fisted attempt intending its viewers to reflect on the value of life by reminding them not to get carried away with the negatives. That to allow ourselves to be consumed by the negative we become dead even while we live. Oh, and to give us a thriller involving a serial killer and a hint at a horror film.

It was mildly entertaining years ago. Upon a second viewing it seems silly and insulting.

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