Looking forward to it... Are you ?
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Am I the only one looking forward to this movie ;P ?
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Yeah, me too. From what I have heard it ould be very good.
shareHavent heard much about it... Just really enjoyed princess :-)
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It was very good.
shareYes it was but did you understand the ending exactly ? What do you think happen ? Also were the people chasing the kid and then the guy getting hit real ? That confused me a little.
shareThey weren't chasing him, they were looking for him - to rescue him. The way I read it was that yes, Kim Bodnia's character was shot - by his son - but then he made a getaway with the girl while the son was sleeping. The girl rang the local police (again) and told them where to find the boy.
The evidence for that is the last few seconds after the end titles. If you have the film, watch it again at that point. I don't want to spoilt it completely for you by telling you what it was unless you *don't* have the film. If you don't have the film let me know and I'll tell you what was said.
All very different from Kim Bodnia's usual work.
I was talking about the boy beating the dad and the older guy chasing the kid from outside from the lake ? Were those two people really there ? If not how did the dad and kid see them ?
KB's character had a lot of flashbacks about him and his father. He still felt angry about his father's treatment of him, and guilty for allowing him to drown. Those flashbacks certainly got confusing because of the way they interlaced the present with the past. Is that what you meant?
shareYes. So why was his son running back to the house? How was he being chased by his grandpa if he was dead ? Could he see his dad's pass as well ?
shareYou got me there - I don't remember. I'll try and watch the end again over the weekend and get back to you. The only thing I can think of is that often we saw things from the father's perspective, and maybe it was Kim Bodnia running away from Peter Stormare, instead of the grandson. For sure the son could not have shared KB's delusions.
shareYou got me there - I don't remember. I'll try and watch the end again over the weekend and get back to you. The only thing I can think of is that often we saw things from the father's perspective, and maybe it was Kim Bodnia running away from Peter Stormare, instead of the grandson. For sure the son could not have shared KB's delusions.
Wait a minute Peter Stormare was still alive? share
No, that was just in KB's nightmares. Get back to you later on the rest.
share"So why was his son running back to the house? How was he being chased by his grandpa if he was dead ? Could he see his dad's pass as well ?"
The only people there were Simon and Louie, and Angelique of course. Everything we saw with Simon's father (in the yellow sou'wester) was in Simon's imagination. Where we see Louie being chased along the jetty by Stormare it is again Simon's imagination - he is projecting his own experiences with *his* father onto his relationship with Louie.
The reason Louie shot him is because he was terrified. Simon had lost the plot big-time and was shouting, waving and threatening something/somebody who wasn't really there. Given Simon's increasingly erratic behaviour and his complete loss of control it's not surprising that Louie felt threatened.
Don't underestimate the pressure Simon would have been feeling. He had broken the law and effectively kidnapped his son, then returned to what had formerly been the family home; his job and probably his freedom were forfeit; and the pain of his relationship with his father was increasingly replacing reality.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. That does help. I always wonder why he let his father die? I guess we will really never know.
shareYou're welcome. I think the answer to your question is contained in the shot of him in the dinghy with his left eye completely swollen shut and blood all over his sleeves. The father was obviously a child-beater and Simon hated him for that, but he was also his father so Simon loved him for that. Not an unusual situation, but of course their particular situation in the dinghy *was* unusual, and Simon just let things take their course. I would guess it certainly wasn't pre-planned or even deliberate - it just happened.
And that, of course, would add to the guilt he felt, and the over-protective stance he developed towards Louie.
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You don't see anything, you only hear their voices.
Angelique: Can you handle it Simon?
Simon: Yeah, I'm OK. Let's just move on.
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