New evidence?


What are the odds that it is evidence that Oswald killed JFK alone?

Ranb

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Because it wasn't Oswald, watch JFK.

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Im loving the "watch an Olivor Stone" film for the truth quote from esprade... Priceless..

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JFK is boring statire trying to pass as the truth. How anyone could allow themselves to be swayed by that stupid movie is beyond me. Even if I believed that Oswald did not do it, it would still be stupid a movie.

Ranb

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Lee Oswald did not even fire a gun that day. None of the evidence puts the gun in his hands, nor does it put him on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting. Tests indicate that he didn't fire a weapon that day. He was a patsy hired and then set up by his Controllers to take the blame. I have been to Dallas 6 times and measured everything from all angles. The "Official" report is Fiction.
Don't just trust me. All the evdience and a lot more is out there. Read "Killing The Truth" and "Killing Kennedy" for starts.


I reject your reality and substitute one of my own.

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I thoroughly studied JFK in history in school and college, one of the best peices of evidence was an actual witness who quotes Lee Harvey Oswald of being in the cafeteria of the book depository exactly 1 minute after the gun shot from the top level, and till this day try find any man that can run 6 flights of stairs in less then 1minute? superman maybe.haha

but this is actual factual information that was taken as evidence, until it was later destroyed!

but as we all know USA is the best at creating conspiracys.

just look at what the bush administration did to scare the american people with 9/11 - I have actual information that will rebutt any of the claims made by Bush. - one is the fact that bush's relative was the owner/director of the world trade towers, and they had just been re-insured only a short time before the attacks of 9/11 and the insurance quote was doubled! - the fact that there was never any remains found of the 'plane' that supposedly hit the Pentagon, and as i saw, how can a plane so large with so many litres of fuel just dissapear. and the list goes on! but americans beleive what they want. and good for u,

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You're kidding right? Anyone with two good legs can run 6 flights of stairs in less than a minute.

Ranb

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I agree totally. It's been a long time now, but when I was in the military I lived on the seventh floor of a nine-story barracks building. I never actually timed myself, but I ran UP those seven complete flights of stairs in way under a minute, every single day. It wasn't even hard to do. I sure couldn't do it now, but back then I did it all the time.

Running DOWN six flights of stairs in under a minute, I can STILL do.

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No kidding. Back in high school physics class I did 2 flights of stairs in about 3 seconds. And these were extra long flights. Even the out of shape girls in the class could do the 2 flights in less than 8. Heck, even I wasn't in that great of shape.

Adjusting for fatigue, I could have done 6 flights in about 25-30 seconds. And that's going up the steps.

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Let's say Oswald did it. That still doesn't mean that he acted alone or that he was not a part of a larger group of conspirators.

The fatal head shot caused Kennedy's head to go backwards and to the left. That's information from the Zepruder film alone... not Oliver Stone's movie. That shot would have to come from the front and right of Kennedy. Oswald was not in position for that. Maybe the shot to Kennedy's throat or back. But not the one that blasted Kennedy's brains out.

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Footage taken by Orville Nix [taken from the other side of Elm Street from Zepruder] purports to capture the gunman on the grassy knowll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=r1MsfIYd1iI&feature=endscr een


You can't palm off a second-rater on me. You gotta remember I was in the pink!

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Wrong again. An object does not always react this way to a bullet impacting it. I've shot pumpkins with a 50 bmg rifle (700 grain bullet at 2800 fps) Sometimes a half inch hole is just poked through it, other times the back is blown out and the pumpkin falls towards the shooter. Don't fall for the "shooter has to be in front crap" just because of the way his head moves.

Ranb

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The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey were the owners of the World Trade Towers.

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I think we all know and agree that the facts of JFK's assassination were covered up from the very beginning.

The question we have to ask is why?

JFK was too rich and powerful to be bribed or blackmailed, so he was murdered by someone he wouldn't kowtow to. I can't see it being the Mafia or organised crime because they would be too scared of the consequences. Kennedy did state that the USA would not be getting involved in any military actions in Viet Nam and was pulling out all military advisers.

Who gained the most after his death?

The military industrial complex and LBJ, that's who. LBJ became President and the USA invaded South Viet Nam, lining the pockets of major companies who supplied arms and munitions, planes and all other kinds of vehicles and don't forget about all the medical supplies and drugs.

The running down the stairs is a moot question, more important is:

That it was proven that not even the most skilled sniper/marksman could of fired that many shots in so short a time from the bolt action 6.5 mm caliber Carcano rifle, which was discovered on the 6th floor of the Book Depository Building. The only prints found on the rifle were of Oswald's palm, on the barrel!?

I did see a B&W movie of LBJ laughing and joking in the aisle of a plane the day JFK was assassinated. I wonder what he was so happy about.

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I think Oliver Stone was involved in the assassination of JFK. If you look closely you can see him on the grassy knoll.

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20% at best.. I just watch all the Kennedy Marathon on the History Channel back in Nov. and I seen all this stuff bout the radio that was on,, from one of the patrolman,, and professionals have analyzed that tape over and over and came up with the fact that there were up to 5 gunshots,, not 3 ..
are you going to bark all day little doggie,, or are you going to bite

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JFK's head did move forward for a fraction of a second. Then the jet effect from the exit wound and his musculature and his back brace caused his head to snap back. The claimed grassy knoll shooter would have been so close to Zapruder that Zapruder would have made it clear to everyone that such a shooter actually existed.

Oswald did it and he did it alone. He was so screwed up that he lacked the social skills needed to conspire with others; his skills were lacking even to the point where he was unable to form associations that would cause him to be set-up.

The audio "proof" of more than three shots (actually, typical non-shot-like audio artifacts) was later discredited after a barely audible church bell was detected on the tape. No church bells rang in the area while the shots were fired.

Vincent Bugliosi's book, Reclaiming History, dispatches every claim of conspiracy re: the JFK assassination.

There is a commonality between Oswald and the conspiracy peddlers and their believers: They all derive desperate feelings of superiority from their belief that they figured-out and out-smarted the big bad monster they believe to be the United States Government.

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