To low budget...


When will the director's learn, a great war movie (such as this) cannot be made with such a low budget. You will, and can't any good action sequences.

Kingdom of Heaven had a decent budget, but the Battle of Hattin was cut because of the money... They need more, or else it will just fail!

The end battle in this movie was like 5 minutes, or something...

Anyone agrees?

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Not saying this was a great movie, but no I don't agree. They managed very well with the budget they had.

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Well, there will be bigger action scenes in the sequel, so let's hope for some bloody magic, aye.

And, by the way, did ya like 300? Huh? Did ya? Cuz that wasnt really big budget. Of course, the scale of the thinbg was alot smaller as well, but hey, whatever.

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You can't just blame it on the budget, they failed to create an atmosphere with basic things like lenghts of the clips, capturing the essence of the acting etc. They didn't have the budget to get a good director I guess?

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If you have read the books (or know your history anyway) you understand that the ending in this movie was a complete hoax. The Knights Templar DID NOT win against Saladin´s troups! Or, well, yes, they did win ONE of the battles (at Mont Gisard), but they lost the final battle at Jerusalem in the end, almost wiping the entire order of the Knights Templar into oblivion.

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But wasn't the battle in the first movie none other than the battle of Mont Gisard? The other battles will be seen in the second movie.

Yes, it's true! IMDB has reached Sweden!

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The second movie is based on the third and final book about Arn.

In the final scenes of the first movie, Arn is released from his duty as a Knight Templar. He is given a letter about it from Arnoldo de Torroja, Grand Duke of the Knights Templar. Arn heads back home to Sweden, leaving the Knights Templar to whatever destiny might bring them.

The third book does not take place in Palestine or Outremer at all. The battles that take place in it (as well as in the second movie, I presume) are all in Sweden - at Lena and Gestilren.

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Hmmmm... Well, maybe I couldn't tell the difference between one battle and another. But I'm not too interested in the war scenes anyway. As long as they show Arn as a warrior in a few scenes, so we get the point that he's a knight templar, I'm satisfied. And since they turned the entire first book and almost the entire second book into one movie, they had to cut some things out.

Yes, it's true! IMDB has reached Sweden!

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300 did well, didn't even notice that it had a low budget. Well, it was OK for the budget it had but it could have used more, especially in the Holy Land... The rest was great!

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I dont know what you are talking about..

1. yes, Saladins army do crush the knights templar.. BUT we havent got that far in the story yet. Mount Gisard is just one fight that the knights templar do win. I would guess they will show atleast one more battle from the holy land.

2. Arn is not released from his duty as a knight templar. He is just given a letter the tells him he will be relesed from his duty when his punish has come to an end (20 years as a knight templar). He has only been in the holy land for 10 years or so.


See the movie again or read the book and you might get it straightened out.

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Well, in that case the chronology of the films do not match the chronology of the books. On the other hand, that would not surprise me, since there are a lot of other stupid changes made by the producer and/or the director as well.

The only letter that Arn gets from the Grand Duke of the Knights Templar (at least in the book) is the one releasing him from his duty as a Knights Templar. After receiving this letter, he heads back home to Gothia.

Another scene in the film shows Cecilia Rosa in the cloister rushiong out into the garden, happy, dancing and anticipating the return of Arn.

Both of the scenes above would not fit into a chronology where Arn still would have 10 years left to serve as a Knights Templar.

I have seen a trailer of the second film and (as it seems) Arn has gone back to the Holy Land to fight against Saladin. It seems that this will be the fight about Jerusalem that the Chiristians lose.

If this means that Arn has stayed fot this battle, the final scenes in the first film doesn´t make any sense, if compared to the books. If they somehow try to make it into Arn first heading home to Sweden, spending some time with Cecilia, then receiving a message from the Knights Templars in the Holy Land and heading back - well, that would be even more absurd. A messenger, riding from Jerusalem to Gothia, would need at least a couple of months to do so (more likely up to half a year or more). And Arn would need the same amount of time to ride back as well. And I don´t believe that Saladin would just sit and wait for Arn to come back just to finish the Knights Templars off...

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Yes the movie does not match with the books exactly that is true, but..

..what i can remember from the books Arn do get the letter in advance. And i think the last scene where Cecilia dance of joy is the result from the message she got that tells her that arn is still alive. Which, from the book reach Sweden becaus the great victory from Mount Gisard. It does not mean Arn is getting back to sweden and then return to the holy land later.

It was one battle in the middle of Arn´s time in the holy land that reached sweden and for that reason Cecilia is happy knowing he is still alive:)

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