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Has anyone seen this? The topic is certainly interesting, but the description makes it sound like they might have taken liberties with the Andrew Cunanan/Gianni Versace story. Does it deserve its low rating on IMDb based on the handful of people who have seen this?

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Has anyone seen this? The topic is certainly interesting, but the description makes it sound like they might have taken liberties with the Andrew Cunanan/Gianni Versace story. Does it deserve its low rating on IMDb based on the handful of people who have seen this?



I have seen the movie, and boy did they take a lot of liberties. You never really got to know the character involve, nor did they provide Andrew with a decent motive for killing a lot of people besides saying that he was upset because he wasn't a model yet, and he was too old to be a boy toy. This movie remind me of the movie about 'Jeffrey Dahmer' that was done a while back called "Dahmer". Both movies focus on the partying and drugs not on the character development. Neither movie give you any insight into the person, or the motive, besides stating over and over again that Cunanan was obsess with Gianni, and he was worry about his fading looks. It's like they didn't even try to talk to Andrew's mother , father, or good friends.

They give no motive for him killing the gravedigger, nor did they mention what Gianni was suppose to have said upon encountering Cunanan. They show him in his last hour renting a hotel room, but they do not explain how he wound up on the boat. The audience are left to assume that he broke onto the boat to committed suicide. All and all the movie was bad. I think the movie would have been a lot better if they had actual done a little more research, hire better actors, and least of all had better music. If they had better music you can over look the rest .




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Kades

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Thanks very much for the reply. Considering all the press coverage on Andrew Cunanan, it sounds like this is a very skimpy film. Actually, there's enough footage to make a good documentary, and that would probably shed much better light on the killer.

I did see "Dahmer" with Jeremy Renner, and though it could have done a better jobs with explaining what was going on in his world and his mind, I think Jeremy did a great job. I actually liked him better in that film than in "The Hurt Locker."

Anyway, thanks again for your appraisal. This doesn't sound like a film I'll be seeking out soon. I'm pretty familiar with the case already anyway, and it doesn't sound like this film provides any elaboration or insight.

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Anyway, thanks again for your appraisal. This doesn't sound like a film I'll be seeking out soon. I'm pretty familiar with the case already anyway, and it doesn't sound like this film provides any elaboration or insight.




I very familiar with the case too, and I was really looking forward to seeing this movie, so imagine how disappointed I was when I viewed the movie ,and discovered that it didn't offer any insight into the characters, or the motive . Nothing.
I hope someone else do a indepth movie on the same subject. I also hope someone write another book . I have read 2 books on Andrew already, and I know Andrew's father was said to be writing a book, but I have not been able to find it. Do you know of any new book , or any books about andrew cunanan or movies?

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No, I'm not aware of any other Andrew Cunanan books or movies. What were the books on him that you read, and how were they?

This guy was big news for a couple months when he was on the lam in various cities, then even bigger news when he killed Gianni Versace. It seems like interest in him ground to a halt when he died, but I'd still like to learn more. His fame seems so random, and yet it's a cautionary tale for anyone in the public spotlight.

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No, I'm not aware of any other Andrew Cunanan books or movies. What were the books on him that you read, and how were they?

This guy was big news for a couple months when he was on the lam in various cities, then even bigger news when he killed Gianni Versace. It seems like interest in him ground to a halt when he died, but I'd still like to learn more. His fame seems so random, and yet it's a cautionary tale for anyone in the public spotlight.




Vulgar Favors: Andrew Cunanan, Gianni Versace, and the Largest Failed Manhunt in U.S. History by Maureen Orth and
Three Month Fever: The Andrew Cunanan Story by Gary Indiana. Both are good books, but I feel Vulgar Favors offer a little more insight into a motive,and insight into Andrew. It also raise more questions. Like why was a chicago business man torture, ( Note: His business partner's wife was kill in a accident months prior. His wife married his business partner one year later) he was the only one who was torture. Why was the grave keeper/digger murder? since he had no connection to what was going on. Who sunk the boat before the police was finish with their investigation. They also point out that Bill Cosby son was killed that same day not far from where Gianni was killed, although it unrelated. However, all the men involve had attended a party at the drake hotel.



There is suppose to be another book coming out, but I do not know the name of the book, nor the writer.






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Kades

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Thanks very much for the details. I didn't realize Maureen Orth had written one of the book. She's a superb journalist and the widow of Tim Russert.

It sounds like a lot of the unanswered questions were the same ones arising when Andrew Cunanan was on the lam. Was there any suggestion that the Chicago businessman hired Andrew as a prostitute and was tied up as part of S&M play? Andrew also stole his vehicle, right? The grave digger just seemed random. So much of this just seemed random, actually.

I thought Ennis Cosby was killed in L.A. on the 405 freeway and Gianni Versace in Miami? Anyway, the guy who killed Ennis is in prison. Probably no connection between the two.

Thanks again for the recommendations.

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It sounds like a lot of the unanswered questions were the same ones arising when Andrew Cunanan was on the lam. Was there any suggestion that the Chicago businessman hired Andrew as a prostitute and was tied up as part of S&M play? Andrew also stole his vehicle, right? The grave digger just seemed random. So much of this just seemed random, actually.



While the writer didn't stated rather not Lee Miglin might have hire Andrew, the writer question why Andrew would go to Lee's home if he didn't know anyone there, and how would he had known that no one was home, considering Lee is married, have a grown son, and lots of servants. yet all his servants were off that day. [note" Personally, I do not think Lee was random. it was reported that Cunanan had spent the night there, which seem to indicated that he must have known no one was home, nor coming home , which makes me believe he was invited , or had some form of arrangement . ]

Some people suspected that Andrew was a friend of Miglin's son, who was believe to have been gay, but Miglin's son claim not to have known Andrew. Miglin was the ONLY one of Andrew's victim who was torture. [note: Personally, when someone torture someone , it usually to get information out of them. which makes me wonder why?]

The grave digger/caretaker was so random , which make me want to take a closer look . [Note: Personally, I really think that Andrew might not had been the killer, but the fall guy for someone else)



I thought Ennis Cosby was killed in L.A. on the 405 freeway and Gianni Versace in Miami? Anyway, the guy who killed Ennis is in prison. Probably no connection between the two.


it was noted that while different killers. Yet all of the victim were at the same party. ( could Andrew had been blackmailing someone at that party? he had a list of names, which people believe was his hit list, but it could have been a blackmail list)



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I had forgotten that the businessman had a son who may have been gay. Maybe Andrew used his connection to the son to gain access to the home, rob them and steal the car?

The thing with Cunanan is he was a total scammer and liar, so sorting out facts from hearsay here is difficult. People who were scammed by Andrew were reluctant to come forward out of embarrassment, and many if them probably had secrets to keep. If the businessman's son was involved with Andrew, he probably didn't want that revealed because it contributed to his father's death.

The undertaker's death could have just been an attempt to pin an unsolvable crime on Andrew for sake of convenience. Again, the man was such a chameleon it's hard to separate fact from fiction.

I had forgotten this was the "largest failed manhunt in U.S. history," at least at the time. Since then, of course, there's also been Osama bin Laden, whom we've also been unable to find. Maybe terrorists abroad don't count in the "manhunt" classification. It seems like so much has happened since the Cunanan case (9/11, Virginia Tech, Fort Hood killings, Joran van der Sloot) that the Cunanan case has pretty much been pushed aside. And with Cunanan dead, the prime source of answers is gone. He wasn't part of a gang or terrorist cell, so he's not a threat anymore. It's just one of those baffling trails of carnage that will never be fully explained.

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It's too bad that the two? movies made portraying Andrew Cunanan and his killing spree have been so poorly done. There is great material here for a movie, if done right. I remember when Cunanan dominated the headlines for 3 months in 1997 during his spree. A good movie about this would have been character driven, not story driven which was the mistake the other two movies apparently made. Specifically, the movie has to show what experiences from his past created this monster. Proper casting would help also.

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Very good point. Andrew Cunanan dominated the headlines for a few months, but after he killed Versace (and himself), the case was largely forgotten. I'm much more interested in what made this guy tick and what set him off than another re-creation of the killings – sort of like Jeremy Renner did in "Dahmer" or Charlize Theron did in "Monster." I would love to see a well-written and well-cast approach that gets beneath the surface rather than a superficial re-enactment of what we already know happened.

Unfortunately, the Cunanan case is considered ancient history with all the things that have happened since (Columbine, 9/11, Virginia Tech), and it seems many of his secrets died with him. Still, there have to be family members, friends and others whose path he crossed that could fill in some of the blanks.

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