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What is this trying to say?


I enjoyed the film and enjoyed the views of suburban life but what was the conclusion? Ya so they talk about how bad suburbia is but what are we supposed to do about it?

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There's not one simple answer, but I think the suggestions of the experts (Andres Duany, for instance, proposes retrofitting suburbs and promoting "smart growth") are where the conclusion lies. Kunstler hints at it too, but it doesn't play out in the film's "plot," but the idea is that suburbia is a giant waste of resources. Some planners and architects are gaining ground with new urbanist projects and ideas, but ultimately it's a paradigm shift - people have to realize that suburbia may not be what's best for themselves or the world. That has to happen before we see the end of suburbia.

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Actually, there were many solutions given ... one of them even suggests that suburbs are a first stage urban palette: using abandoned shopping malls as city centers and the housing tracts getting converted to town houses as the burbs age.

Lots of people who have migrated from the dysfunction of the burbs to help create more livable towns and urban environments.

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While they may not point out any clear solution or anything like that, I think a major reason they put this out there was to get people thinking. Thats always the first step to fixing any problem, is to make people aware of what things are like. Who knows, maybe someone who saw this will study the subject further and come up with a solution that works better than what has already been thought up.

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Watch End of Suburbia, The 11th Hour, Crude Awakening, Surplus, The Corporation, and other documentaries. Escape From Suburbia (a sequel to End of Suburbia) will be on DVD in July 2008. The most simple thing you can do to change the world IMO is consume less. Stop driving as much. Get a car with better mileage. Turn off your lights and appliances when they are not being used. Get CFL or LED bulbs. Eat at home. Prepare your own meals, using fresh natural foods (pref. local) instead of processed/prepared foods shipped from hundreds of miles away. Buy less. Buy more used goods - books, clothes, CDs, games, movies, etc. Borrow from the library or share with friends. Simplify your life. Live beneath your means.

Suburbia is unhealthy for many reasons. One of them is the lifestyle of shopping 5-7 days a week and keeping up with the Joneses. Instead of investing in useless stuff that you don't need, invest in family, and your community. Save your money for the future, instead of squandering it on expensive new cars, big screen TVs, fancy clothes, restaurants, junk food, and other non-essentials. Suburbia is not just a place. It's a state of mind, built on alienation and greed. George Carlin was right in his comedy routine about &quot;Stuff.&quot; Most people see a house as a huge box to put stuff in. And when they run out of space, they get a bigger box (or rent storage space) to go on buying more stuff they don't need. Few ever consider they can do better selling or giving away or throwing away their stuff, and buying less stuff in the future. They can be happier with less stuff.

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I totally agree with your post and actually live that type of lifestyle; well beneath our means, walking when possible, making huge efforts to live greener and support local business and so on. I don't want to step on toes of parents out there but another thing that came to mind a lot whilst watching "Radiant City" was the choice to be childfree (which I have made along with my husband). Obviously someone "needs" to have children but I don't think it's for everyone! Unfortunately our current American culture says you can't be a fulfilled adult without becoming a parent. My husband and I do not live in a suburb, but in the middle of a small Midwestern city, so it was interesting for me to note huge differences and similarities in the lifestyles of some of the people around me (coworkers for example) and the movie. Anyhow, I think the whole suburban dream is often built up around having 2-3 children and needing (or perceiving the need for) a huge new tract house. Why do that unless it's your absolute dream and top priority to raise a family including children? I guess I just don't get that...along with many other things in the film which echo the behavior of those around me. I can't imagine going to Walmart and strip malls near-daily and blowing money on junk. What for?!

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I read a comment somewhere how most people just buy a car as a big shopping cart to drive around. And that's true. It's a lot harder to buy groceries or anything heavy if you have to ride the bus or bicycle or walk, you might have to buy your groceries everyday and pay more for small sizes if you do not have a car. It's a huge luxury. Having a house with attached garage is also a big luxury. Living in an apartment, it will take much longer to carry in lots of groceries even if you have a car. And you have to lock and unlock the car or people might steal things while you're inside. Unless you live across the street from a grocery store or a mall, it's nice to have a car if you buy things like milk, orange juice, sodas, bottled water, and other big heavy items.

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The primary point is that the corporate sponsored, car-dependent, sterile milieu (where even a calendar chock-full of activities can't quite assuage the existential dread/stultifying ennui of the suburban lifestyle) of the suburb attempts to emulate the vibrant (read: mixed use, ethnically diverse, pedestrian-enabled) neighborhoods of old but they can't. For all the economic and political resources devoted to building great "houses" suburbanites have been cut off from what makes a real community a great place to live.

The solution is offered piecemeal in the form of the expert, academic observations from the likes of James Howard Kunstler and a few others. Basically the suburb has to be retrofitted to contain some of the same amenities of inner-city neighborhoods via mass-transit, more self-contained, self-sufficient, mixed use communities replete with shopping, office space and a variety of living arrangements all within close proximity as opposed to cookie-cutter developments that cater primarily to single-families of a particular socioeconomic class.

Kunstler's recurring point (you'll want to read his book The Long Emergency) is that suburbia is the by-product of the industrial age, an era of readily extractable and thus cheap oil and surreal, historically unprecedented levels of abundance and he warns that our way of life isn't sustainable, i.e. the oil is running out and we're living on borrowed time. The suburban design we've spend so much money and time building will eventually become part of the detritus of late capitalist, industrial society unless we build communities that work for EVERYONE not just for oil barons, yuppies and wealthy retirees. Oh, and the twist at the end (that you'll probably, and are supposed to, hate) underscores the point: that our way of life is an artifice and eventually that fact will be apparent to everyone.

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