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why are liberals sucking hollywood dry


why is it that every movie has to be infused with liberal hate mongering speeches dispatching conservatives and former presidents bush and reagan? ohh wait, i know, cause liberals are overbearing confident they are right about everything, closeminded and rude.

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no were none of those things..We just think you are stupid. =)

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yeah, you can think we're stupid all you want, but if conservatives made a movie bashing liberals all you people would be doing is whining and crying until every single copy of the movie was DESTROYED.

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ur right, but thats because the movie would suck haha

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You mean like this? Funny, but I've seen plenty of movies bashing liberals and I don't remember hearing such complaining.

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cause liberals are overbearing confident they are right about everything, closeminded and rude.

WOW! Are you retarded? That's Conservative Republican written ALL over it!



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HAHA. oh my gosh. You people are absolutely laughable. First of all, since Hollywood is OWNED by liberals, I would love to see the movie where Conservatives bash liberals. Second of all, Liberals are close minded people PRETENDING to be open minded who only hate people who have more money than them and live for fear mongering.

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I really don't get why the majority of Americans seem to have to class themselves as liberal or conservative, or whatever with everything in their lives.

Can't you just watch a movie without thinking that there is some agenda behind it? I'm sure with some there is an agenda of some sort, but it can't be with everything can it?

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I'm both conservative and Republican. And I love this movie. And I'm a guy. Why does it always have to be political? I get that there was a political backdrop to this movie but it played fair. Both sides got a bit of a skewering. And that's kind of the way life is.

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A wonderful point, tigertodd. If all you can get out of a movie like Definitely, Maybe is politics then maybe your politics are taking over your life.

And for the record, most Holywood movies skew to the left because most Hollywood people skew left. The left isn't "sucking Hollywood dry"-- the left is Hollywood. If that's a deal breaker for you then you may just have to stop watching mainstream movies altogether.

But I sincerely hope you won't.

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it didn't really overtake the movie for me...it just was yet another example of how liberals manipulate every part of the media, yet we aren't allowed to have FOX news or Rush Limbaugh. That's "Unamerican".

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so you love colbert, huh?

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Waaaaay late to the party, but I just had to respond! Exactly - why does it always have to be political? Why is it every single movie has some idiot asking about the political bent of it? In the big scheme of thing, does it even frickin' matter? Somebody who can't see anything but politics in everything they look at must have a seriously sad, one-dimensional life.

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I agree too. There is too much liberal propaganda in Hollywood. I think its just fashionable to pose yourself as liberal, that's why they do it.

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Artists, including film-makers, writers, journalists, and academics are people who think deeply about the world. Deep thinkers are drawn towards liberal ideologies. Whereas people who are satisfied with cheap sloganism are drawn towards conservative ideologies.

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agreed mercury. artists etc. think deeply of the world and see it how it should be. Conservatives blindly follow a routine of being a slave to the corporations that exploit not only them, but the consumer and the workers they employ in their sweatshops. They have no concept of anything outside of their programmed, robotic existence in which they completely bend over for the rich while talking trash to everyone fighting for living wages and a more equal slice of the pie. They are very very stupid in my opinion and ruin it for the other people that want real equality and change. They somehow think that someday they will be like the rich but really , they usually work lower class-middle class jobs. And then when they have a business they are even worse! THey actually think that pulling in 500,000 a year makes them like the executives and ceos of major corporations! THey have no clue that these corporate ceo people think they are scum just like the rest of us. Just try joining their country clubs etc. I guarantee they would laugh at all who didn't make at least millions a year. My dad was extremely conservative and thought everyone and their mother was a moocher. I always disliked his beliefs but later found that it was because he felt he didn't live up to what he should have been in this world and everyone else below him was to blame somehow. He had to pay taxes therefore he never became rich. Haha ok. If you are worried about paying taxes, you clearly aren't making enough. Also are you not driving on the roads taxes paid for? Did you go to public school etc? Taxes pay for many necessary things in society. They fail to see this. God forbid the CEO's payed their workers a little more rather than taking huge billion dollar bonuses yearly. What about when they took the taxpayers bailout claiming it was necessary so that people wouldn't lose their jobs and then they turn around and write huge bonus checks for themselves and STILL fire people? Conservatives just don't get it. Sorry we all don't want to bend over and take it up the ass by these callous sub humans. All they think of is money pure and simple. It is even funnier to see people online that bash the poor and say that paying taxes drains their money yet they claim to send their children to private school and take lavish vacations and have nice cars. Ya you *beep* are really hurting... ya keep sticking up for the man you hillbilly rednecks.

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The movie doesn't reflect well on any politicians. Upon seeing Ryan Reynolds imitating Clinton in the mirror, I thought it was going to be Liberal Hollywood's nostalgic love letter to the Clinton era, but it really portrays politicians as craven power-grabbers who depend on the dedication of young, naive idealists to get them elected. For all their talk about truth and justice, those idealists who are not naive, like Kevin Kline, use politics to line their pockets and advance their careers (see both of Rachel Weisz' articles about the candidate).

By the end of the movie, Ryan Reynolds has left politics, completely let down by his hero Bill Clinton. Far from "feeling his pain," Clinton doesn't even give a second glance to the guy who worked night and day to get him elected, raising over $50,000 for him in one day! While the President can hardly be expected to remember staffers he never met, the scene underlines how ultimately impersonal even the so-called human/compassionate politicians are. At Ryan's birthday party, his old co-workers say they'd vote for Clinton again. This might implicitly invite the viewer to weigh his dishonesty about marital infidelity against more globally important Bush legacies of a war based on false intelligence and "enhanced interrogations" at secret prisons, but there's no direct shots at Republicans in the movie at all, aside from two staffers saying GWB should "stick to baseball." That's pretty charitable compared to all the time spent painting Clinton as a disappointment nearly on par with heartbreaking girlfriends and a lost best friend.

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Very well-written, Shelly.

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Sshelly34213 wrote,
"If you're old or middle aged, you've got nothing else to really think about, but your memories. You may be intensely concerned about the future or your children, but even this stems from some strange conservative feeling you now possess in old age. If you're young, you look to the future...because that's where you life is. If you don't, then there is something seriously wrong with you."

I agree with your post for the most part, and found it mostly well written; but the quote above is laughably absurd. I am old or middle aged, and I have plenty to think about. I also have a future, and hopes and plans for that future. MY life is in the future. I've never known anyone of any age, who has even the slightest amount of self-awareness, who feels otherwise. I don't possess any "strange conservative feelings", except maybe some disdain for self-important, self-righteous fools who think they have it all figured out, even though they have yet to experience any of it.

As for lifelong social and political bents, we almost all become somewhat less liberal as time passes. Partly it's because more conservative or less liberal politics (AKA economics) generally offers advantages as we age. Socially, most of us gradually wear down a bit, and familiarity and disillusionment take the place of some of the exuberance and idealism of youth. That does not mean we become conservative, or even complacent. It just means we may not be quite as highly charged as we once were. I expect it will happen to you as well, like it or not, believe it or not.

And I agree -- youthful conservatism is unnatural -- young people have absolutely nothing to gain from conservatism. The idea of it is almost paradoxical; and yet it's quite common. In my experience, it is borne of ignorance, of children mimicking their parents, and sometimes a case of the blind leading the blind.

And just for the record, to those who equate religious or moral values with political or or social conservatism: Open your eyes, for crying out loud. These things have nothing to do with each other.

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Why is everything political with Americans?

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Conservatives think that we have some kind of socialist take over planned because they're talk show radio hosts talk about it 24/7 so they are constantly trying to reveal the plot or something.

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Don't you realize that Lincoln was a Republican???? How can you then pin slavery on the man who emancipated the slaves?

Regarding aid for the poor: Christian groups have given great deals of aid worldwide, in Africa (especially Sudan) and for disaster relief, and they continue every day. Atheists often convieniently ignore the fact. When a poor family came into my community's church, our members gave them money, furniture and even jobs. I don't see any atheistic or agnostic groups stepping up to the plate in such a SIGNIFICANT fashion. The media will never report or bother to investigate to find that monotheists are carrying the load when it comes to aid to the poor. They're stuck on "God is Dead."

And the same people who attack the wealthy also disregard their charitable donations -- which by anyone's logic: Those with higher incomes are in a position to give significantly more, and many do just that.

Regarding socialism: European nations are now coming to the realization that it doesn't work. Something that the USSR found out the hard way. Johnson's Great Society turned into one of welfare fraud and people wearing furs and driving new Cadillacs while redeeming food stamps.

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Simple answer. Can't believe it took like years to get an answer


Republicans are not creative!

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Re: Excuse me, but Republicans are for big businesses and big businesses
by jgs1935 » Tue Oct 26 2010 16:17:30
IMDb member since March 2006
Don't you realize that Lincoln was a Republican???? How can you then pin slavery on the man who emancipated the slaves?

Lincoln was a Whig.
The Whig party dissolved so he ended up with the Republicans, but he stated he still held the values he had as a Whig.

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Excuse me but I am a Christian and I watch all kinds of movies. I think you're being very prejudiced/judgmental in your thinking.

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Would a love story about a right leaning neo con be that interesting to a mainstream audience? They'd probably be very greedy, humourless and pretty unsympathetic individuals. Like of a storyline with Stephen Colbert. Nope better cast as a comedy thank you very much.

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OP: filmmakers are going to have different political opinions to you. It's not worth hating a movie over. You're denying yourself pleasure for stupid reasons. I lean toward the right but I thought this was an awesome movie.

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Hollywood wouldnt exist without liberals

"...I'm a contradiction"

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