Why do you keep asking this...


first of all RIP 9/11 victims.

But,

You people keep asking the stupid question: "Do you actually believe the US Government would kill 3000+ of its own people?" Thinking of that statement, I that can think of nothing else to do but to LOL

uhhhhhh, yeah... You really think your Government cares about you? No they don't

Deaths of 3000 people out of 300,000,000 will give you billions upon billions of $... ask yourself a question, would you slay 3000 ants for billions and billions of dollars? Sickening to think but your "Government" had the exact same mindset, using innocent human beings.

It's all about the dollars people and the US Government or any other Government for that matter will do ANYTHING for the dollars. $=POWER. USA=POWER. Why is the USA the most powerful country on Earth? Hmmmm....
Do you realize how much gold was under the world trade site? A: A *beep* *beep* *beep* load. gold=$$$. Not to mention stocks etc etc.

Stop being patriotic and wake up.

I guess if George W Bush says it was a terrorist attack we should believe him yeah?

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YOU wake up! Your allegations are a load of crap, and repeating them on other boards won't change that!

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YOU wake up! Your allegations are a load of crap, and repeating them on other boards won't change that!
he did wake up, it's YOU that still needs. It's YOUR allegations that are full of crap as they don't even stand up to the science (real science, not that Bush "science" you follow) and you jumping on boards to re-enforce the official and its falsehoods won't make them suddenly true so do some reading and get some knowledge or go away.

Cleveland Brown on 9/11http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcy3VIrGxjk

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No, he DIDN'T wake up, ClownTard. He was suckered in by the 9/11 Twoofer Cult just like you! I don't use any "Bush science," because there's no such thing, and the truth DOES stand up to real science, instead of the twoofer junk science you love to peddle!

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No, he DIDN'T wake up, ClownTard.
yes he did

He was suckered in by the 9/11 Twoofer Cult just like you!
not true, no such group exists unless you mean the "no planers" idiots

I don't use any "Bush science," because there's no such thing, and the truth DOES stand up to real science, instead of the twoofer junk science you love to peddle!
No you Peddle Bush-science which is the "science" of the 9/11 Commission (which is impossible) get a life

Cleveland Brown on 9/11http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcy3VIrGxjk

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yes he did

No he didn't, and neither did you.


not true, no such group exists unless you mean the "no planers" idiots

The no-planers are just as much of a cult as the rest of you.



No you Peddle Bush-science which is the "science" of the 9/11 Commission (which is impossible)

There's no such thing as "Bush-science," and it's you twoofer jerkoffs who are pushing the junk science designed to give the appearence of credibility to your propaganda.





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No he didn't, and neither did you.
yes we did, maybe if you turned off you TV and did some research instead of being a dick you would too

The no-planers are just as much of a cult as the rest of you.
no cults, sorry, you're in imagination land again Davey, now if you could prove its a cult that would be great

There's no such thing as "Bush-science," and it's you twoofer jerkoffs who are pushing the junk science designed to give the appearence of credibility to your propaganda.
Bush-Science is a JOKE term used to describe the "science" of the 9/11 Conmission ... I'm sorry, 9/11 commission it is THAT that is propaganda and everything else the U.S Government puts out through its media

have you ever done an experiment?

Cleveland Brown on 9/11http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcy3VIrGxjk

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"yes we did, maybe if you turned off you TV and did some research instead of being a dick you would too"
--Ironic you say this, since you undoubtedly got your 9-11 conspiracy ideas from watching Loose Change and/or Alex Jones "documentaries"...ON YOUR TV!!!

"have you ever done an experiment"
--I don't know about the person you directed this question to, but I myself have done experiments...it's what I get paid to do. What the 9-11 "Truth" movement does is basically the reverse scientific method. You people start with a conclusion (that 9-11 was an inside job), toss out all the evidence that doesn't fit this conclusion, and then you go on and on about your explanation is the only possible one. Again, this is the exact reverse of the way science is conducted.

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--Ironic you say this, since you undoubtedly got your 9-11 conspiracy ideas from watching Loose Change and/or Alex Jones "documentaries"...ON YOUR TV!!!
not true at all, i became aware of the truth firstly through "9/11 Mysteries" (on my laptop)

--I don't know about the person you directed this question to, but I myself have done experiments...it's what I get paid to do. What the 9-11 "Truth" movement does is basically the reverse scientific method.
Hahahahah, yeah right

You people start with a conclusion
no, that's what the commission did and media still does on this topic

(that 9-11 was an inside job),
no that came about when the evidence was looked at and didnt make sense

toss out all the evidence that doesn't fit this conclusion,
you mean like the commission did with ...

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WTC 7
thermite
funding from the ISI
warnings from other countries
where the "hijackers" lived
"hijackers" piloting "skills"
impact zone evidence
explosions in the towers
put options
power-downs

these kinds of things

and then you go on and on about your explanation is the only possible one.
you mean .... just like the government does with its own official story? [grin] wow, you're the first to actually fail before getting started, well done

Again, this is the exact reverse of the way science is conducted.
yeah what WE do is take a look at ALL the facts and go from there, YOU assume you know and put in what you think will fit the story you come up with and ignore everything else

I've never seen someone fail in just one post before, either you're a sock for someone else or you've been brainwashed into thinking what you're supposed to but your mind might still be slightly ajar.

Hope?

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"collapse" times

Longer than what you twoofers say it was.

WTC 7

Hit by WTC 1

thermite

Not there.

funding from the ISI

Doubtful, and Pakistan has enough people who are willing to break off from Government agencies to fund the Taliban and Al-Qaida.

warnings from other countries

Most warnings about potential attacks were vague and non-specific.

where the "hijackers" lived

Never in one place at once.


"hijackers" piloting "skills"

Not as poor as you fanatics insist they were.


impact zone evidence

Which doesn't prove any alleged conspiracy.

explosions in the towers

The sounds were said to be LIKE explosives, but were not bombs.


put options

On and off throughout the year.

power-downs

Not real! And during one of those imaginary "power downs," somebody was able to buy a ticket to the Windows on the World Restaurant.

You see, Clown, you people DO toss out all the evidence that doesn't fit your conclusions.

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Longer than what you twoofers say it was.
nope, 10.5 second for the south tower, 12.4 to 14.5 for the north and 6.5 for WTC7

Hit by WTC 1
no, a smallish section hit the south side and that doesnt change the SEMETRICAL falling

Not there.
yes it was, thermite found in the dust and evidence of it was caught on video

Doubtful, and Pakistan has enough people who are willing to break off from Government agencies to fund the Taliban and Al-Qaida.
transfer made on 9/10 confirmed by FBI (i'm amazed at how little of this stuff you know)

Most warnings about potential attacks were vague and non-specific.
wrong again, “involving hijacked planes over new york in september” is not “non-specific” (and 11 countries warning you should tell you things are real)

Never in one place at once.
wrong not only did hijackers live together, Atta and his friend lived in the playground of U.S intelligence

Not as poor as you fanatics insist they were.
no fanatics, no piloting skills, hanjour couldnt handle a 4 man plane and you think he carried out the near impossible maneuver to hit the pentagon

Which doesn't prove any alleged conspiracy.
wrong again, impact zone shows a plane couldnt have struck the pentagon (and you forget that the official story itself is an alleged conspiracy

The sounds were said to be LIKE explosives, but were not bombs.
no they were said to BE explosions, firemen saw and experienced them as well as got hit and blown back by them (which is why they banned the release of all the firefighters radio communications that day for 2-years)

On and off throughout the year.
and yet put options spiked to more than 1,100% more activity in the week before 9/11 ONLY on the companies in the towers and airlines affected that day

Not real!
yes real, Scott Forbes was there as were many others who reported the power-downs (which is how it got out in the first place)
And during one of those imaginary "power downs," somebody was able to buy a ticket to the Windows on the World Restaurant.
what the hell are you on about now? Explain yourself

You see, Clown, you people DO toss out all the evidence that doesn't fit your conclusions.
no, again you are wrong and mistake your own actions for ours

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nope, 10.5 second for the south tower, 12.4 to 14.5 for the north and 6.5 for WTC7

Wrong, Clown! 15.28 for the South Tower, 22.02 seconds for the North Tower!




no, a smallish section hit the south side and that doesnt change the SEMETRICAL falling

No, many huge sections hit WTC 7, and there was NO symmerical falling.



yes it was, thermite found in the dust and evidence of it was caught on video

No it wasn't, and only the twoofer psuedo-scientists you follow have been making this claim.


wrong again, “involving hijacked planes over new york in september” is not “non-specific” (and 11 countries warning you should tell you things are real)

But additional warnings of terrorists attacking Los Angeles, San Francisco, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, Seattle, etc. and demanding the release of thugs like Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, DO make this non-specific.


wrong not only did hijackers live together, Atta and his friend lived in the playground of U.S intelligence

They've lived in places such as Munich and Miami. That's still not one place at a time. "Playground of U.S. Intelligence?" By your logic, every single resident of Alexandria, Virginia is an agent for the CIA.


no fanatics, no piloting skills, hanjour couldnt handle a 4 man plane and you think he carried out the near impossible maneuver to hit the pentagon

More lies, and it was NOT impossible to crash a plane into the Pentagon!



wrong again, impact zone shows a plane couldnt have struck the pentagon (and you forget that the official story itself is an alleged conspiracy)

It's only a conspiracy by Al-Qaida, dick head! And the impact zone DOES NOT show a plane couldn't have hit it!



no they were said to BE explosions, firemen saw and experienced them as well as got hit and blown back by them (which is why they banned the release of all the firefighters radio communications that day for 2-years)

The so-called "explosions" were the sounds of the BUILDING COLLAPSING!!



what the hell are you on about now? Explain yourself

Getting into the restaurant requires a ticket, and the printing of those tickets require electircal power. One of the times you lying sacks of $h!t claims those "power downs" took place was a time when those tickets were printed!! This proves the power dows WERE NOT REAL, and for the record, Scott Forbes didn't know what the hell was going on!!
http://911myths.com/assets/images/wtc_ticket1.jpg
http://911myths.com/assets/images/wtc_ticket2.jpg
http://911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html


no, again you are wrong and mistake your own actions for ours

Shove it, ClownTurd! YOU PEOPLE are the ones who say you're "just asking questions," but when somebody gives you an ANSWER, you blow them off and call them "shills," "sheep," and "disinfo agents." You HATE the answers, because they don't blame America or it's allies!





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Wrong, Clown! 15.28 for the South Tower, 22.02 seconds for the North Tower!
sooooooo wrong, i'd love to see what you got those bogus numbers, may I see a link?

No, many huge sections hit WTC 7, and there was NO symmerical falling.
no ONE section hit it (as seen on all video, only one side of the tower COULD hit it) and yes it DID fall straight down SYMMETRICALLY (you need new eyes)

No it wasn't, and only the twoofer psuedo-scientists you follow have been making this claim.
wroooong again, thermite WAS captured, it was that flowing orange stuff that you claim is molten aluminum …... even though aluminum doesn't melt until waaaay after the temps reached and is SILVER, not orange

But additional warnings of terrorists attacking Los Angeles, San Francisco, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, Seattle, etc. and demanding the release of thugs like Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, DO make this non-specific.
bull crap, it doesnt matter what is said about anywhere else, it you are told “hijacking planes in september involving new york” thats dead on the nose and almost all the info you could hope to get

They've lived in places such as Munich and Miami. That's still not one place at a time.
they lived all over but the LEADER lived in the intelligence playground

"Playground of U.S. Intelligence?" By your logic, every single resident of Alexandria, Virginia is an agent for the CIA.
HAHAHAHAHA what a dumb ass you are, they lived 2 blocks from major military and intelligence buildings, this isnt “my logic” it is FACT,

no fanatics, no piloting skills, hanjour couldnt handle a 4 man plane and you think he carried out the near impossible maneuver to hit the pentagon
More lies, and it was NOT impossible to crash a plane into the Pentagon!
wow you're a dumb bastard, I say NEAR impossible you jack ass, and no, him not being able to fly a 4 man plane ISNT a lie its a fact, ask his flight school instructor, his interview is online but hasnt been shown on U.S TV thats why you havent seen it on Fox

It's only a conspiracy by Al-Qaida, dick head! And the impact zone DOES NOT show a plane couldn't have hit it!
wrong and wrong again, the pentagon had NO ENGINE IMPACT HOLES and they're 9ft wide

The so-called "explosions" were the sounds of the BUILDING COLLAPSING!!
bullcrap, WALLS HIT FIRE FIGHTERS IN THE FACE, other fire fighters HAD THEIR LEGS BLOWN OFF, you need to do some research you child

Getting into the restaurant requires a ticket, and the printing of those tickets require electircal power. One of the times you lying sacks of $h!t claims those "power downs" took place was a time when those tickets were printed!! This proves the power dows WERE NOT REAL, and for the record, Scott Forbes didn't know what the hell was going on!!
http://911myths.com/assets/images/wtc_ticket1.jpg
http://911myths.com/assets/images/wtc_ticket2.jpg
http://911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html
shut up you retard, scott forbes was an employee in the building and your “ticket” is labeled September 8th, which is AFTER the power downs you idiot, christ you're stupid

Shove it, ClownTurd! YOU PEOPLE are the ones who say you're "just asking questions," but when somebody gives you an ANSWER, you blow them off and call them "shills," "sheep," and "disinfo agents." You HATE the answers, because they don't blame America or it's allies!
no we correct their b.s and then YOU people get angry and start swearing so we tell it like it is, that you are shills sheep and idiots

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sooooooo wrong, i'd love to see what you got those bogus numbers, may I see a link?

I've showed you plenty of times, ass hole. But you deny it and claim that the clock on the video was started early and ended late, which is another twoofer lie!

no ONE section hit it (as seen on all video, only one side of the tower COULD hit it) and yes it DID fall straight down SYMMETRICALLY (you need new eyes)

No, it was HUGE CHUNKS of the North Tower, and WTC 7 fell AT AN ANGLE!! I don't need new eyes. YOU need to look at views of the collapse that AREN'T on twoofer propaganda websites!



wroooong again, thermite WAS captured, it was that flowing orange stuff that you claim is molten aluminum …... even though aluminum doesn't melt until waaaay after the temps reached and is SILVER, not orange

No, it's YOU that's wrong, because the flowing orange stuff WAS moletn aluminum, which has NO SPECIFIC COLOR!! Plus, it was originally spotted WHERE THE PLANES CRASHED INTO THE TOWERS!!




they lived all over but the LEADER lived in the intelligence playground

Their leader lived in Afghanistan!!


wow you're a dumb bastard, I say NEAR impossible you jack ass, and no, him not being able to fly a 4 man plane ISNT a lie its a fact, ask his flight school instructor, his interview is online but hasnt been shown on U.S TV thats why you havent seen it on Fox

It's NOT EVEN "near impossible," let alone impossible. Planes can crash ANYWHERE!! And yes, the pilots WERE able to fly any plane they wanted, and if YOU had looked outside of twoofer propaganda websites you'd know this!





wrong and wrong again, the pentagon had NO ENGINE IMPACT HOLES and they're 9ft wide

"9 feet wide?!" That's the SMALLEST you twoofers have claimed the hole was, and it's STILL a lie! Usually you jackasses claim it was 12-16 feet wide, and if I'm not mistaken, you yourself actually said it was 20 feet once!


shut up you retard, scott forbes was an employee in the building and your “ticket” is labeled September 8th, which is AFTER the power downs you idiot, christ you're stupid

No, I WON'T shut up, ass hole! That was the day these imaginary "power downs" was supposed to take place! You couldn't get that ticket if the power was down, and Forbes DID NOT verify whether a power down took place or not!


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I've showed you plenty of times, ass hole. But you deny it and claim that the clock on the video was started early and ended late, which is another twoofer lie!
no you haven't you showed me ONE video that doesnt show ANYTHING BUT THE PAVEMENT and I got my numbers from a little thing called THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT

No, it was HUGE CHUNKS of the North Tower, and WTC 7 fell AT AN ANGLE!! I don't need new eyes. YOU need to look at views of the collapse that AREN'T on twoofer propaganda websites!
HAHAHA ONLY ONE SIDE COULD HIT BECAUSE ONLY ONE SIDE WAS FACING WTC7 you clown, so yes, you DO need new eyes, and it came STRAIGHT DOWN for 80% and only fell slightly back AT THE END when there was no room left underneath


No, it's YOU that's wrong, because the flowing orange stuff WAS moletn aluminum, which has NO SPECIFIC COLOR!! Plus, it was originally spotted WHERE THE PLANES CRASHED INTO THE TOWERS!!
WRONG WRONG WRONG, it WASN'T molten aluminum because it IS color specific and it flowed from the CORNER of the tower on the OPPOSITE SIDE to where the plane hit, God you are a muppet, it's like you've never actually seen the footage, how could you get it so wrong?

Their leader lived in Afghanistan!!
no they lived in WASHINGTON you moron, they'd been there for 5-years, Christ you dont know anything,

wow you're a dumb bastard, I say NEAR impossible you jack ass, and no, him not being able to fly a 4 man plane ISNT a lie its a fact, ask his flight school instructor, his interview is online but hasnt been shown on U.S TV thats why you havent seen it on Fox
It's NOT EVEN "near impossible," let alone impossible.
I SAID NEAR IMPOSSIBLE YOU RETARDED JACKASS, learn to read

Planes can crash ANYWHERE!!
OH MY GOD that isnt the point, the point is the FLIGHT PATH IT SUPPOSEDLY TOOK BEFORE IMPACT, you are the most retarded person to ever post on the internet, officially

And yes, the pilots WERE able to fly any plane they wanted, and if YOU had looked outside of twoofer propaganda websites you'd know this!
NO THEY WERE NOT. WATCH the video of his flight instructor tell you he WASNT CAPABLE TO FLIGHT ANYTHING so they refused him alone fly time – THIS WAS ON ALL MAJOR NETWORKS AT SOME POINT how can you not know?

wrong and wrong again, the pentagon had NO ENGINE IMPACT HOLES and they're 9ft wide
"9 feet wide?!" That's the SMALLEST you twoofers have claimed the hole was, and it's STILL a lie! Usually you jackasses claim it was 12-16 feet wide, and if I'm not mistaken, you yourself actually said it was 20 feet once!
holy christ you're inbred READ AGAIN I said the ENGINES were 9ft wide so there should be 2 9ft ENGINE holes WHICH ARE ABSENT – you are the dumbest person alive

No, I WON'T shut up, ass hole! That was the day these imaginary "power downs" was supposed to take place! You couldn't get that ticket if the power was down, and Forbes DID NOT verify whether a power down took place or not!
WRONG, there was no ONE DAY, it was for 2 weekends in the weeks running up to 9/11, the last weekend (when your ticket was printed) power was ON but employees asked to leave (wow, you're a real plum)

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no you haven't you showed me ONE video that doesnt show ANYTHING BUT THE PAVEMENT and I got my numbers from a little thing called THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT

No, I showed you a video that had the REAL TIME of the collapse.


HAHAHA ONLY ONE SIDE COULD HIT BECAUSE ONLY ONE SIDE WAS FACING WTC7 you clown, so yes, you DO need new eyes, and it came STRAIGHT DOWN for 80% and only fell slightly back AT THE END when there was no room left underneath

The Tower was more than twice as tall as WTC 7, so the falling debris could have and DID hit more than just one side. And no I DON'T need new eyes, because it DID NOT fall straight down, because the Verison Building and part of CUNY were also hit


I SAID NEAR IMPOSSIBLE YOU RETARDED JACKASS, learn to read

I CAN read, ass hole, and it's STILL NOT TRUE!!


OH MY GOD that isnt the point, the point is the FLIGHT PATH IT SUPPOSEDLY TOOK BEFORE IMPACT, you are the most retarded person to ever post on the internet, officially

The hell I am. You're just lying your worthless ass off!!




NO THEY WERE NOT. WATCH the video of his flight instructor tell you he WASNT CAPABLE TO FLIGHT ANYTHING so they refused him alone fly time – THIS WAS ON ALL MAJOR NETWORKS AT SOME POINT how can you not know?

What they said was that the pilots didn't learn how to LAND the planes, which makes sense, since they NEVER INTENDED TO!!


holy christ you're inbred READ AGAIN I said the ENGINES were 9ft wide so there should be 2 9ft ENGINE holes WHICH ARE ABSENT

And you're STILL lying, because the holes were 16 FEET, which was the basis of Theirry Meyssan's delusion of missiles being launched into the Pentagon that you imbeciles have been suckered into believing for the past nine years!


WRONG, there was no ONE DAY, it was for 2 weekends in the weeks running up to 9/11, the last weekend (when your ticket was printed) power was ON but employees asked to leave (wow, you're a real plum)

The only person claiming that there were any "power downs" was Forbes, and his claims are based on mere assmuptions.










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No, I showed you a video that had the REAL TIME of the collapse.
of course the video was real time, but that doesnt change the fact that it STARTED with the tower then went straight to the FLOOR and all you saw was pavement, whereas you refuse to watch the wider angle NON-MOVING images

The Tower was more than twice as tall as WTC 7, so the falling debris could have and DID hit more than just one side. And no I DON'T need new eyes, because it DID NOT fall straight down, because the Verison Building and part of CUNY were also hit
YES YOU DO, it does matter how big the tower was, only the top 15 floors could hit WTC7 – and the other buildings hit are IRRELEVANT because they have nothing to do with this so stop trying to move the topic

I CAN read, ass hole, and it's STILL NOT TRUE!!
yes it is, the action the “plane” is supposed to have taken is almost impossible for a plane that size, while it CAN be done it would take a 20-year man skilled in flying 767's to do so – the ONLY time it has been done for real was by 2-years before … do you know who that pilot was?

The hell I am. You're just lying your worthless ass off!!
no you really are that dumb,

What they said was that the pilots didn't learn how to LAND the planes, which makes sense, since they NEVER INTENDED TO!!
NOT TRUE AT ALL, he said he COULDNT fly the plane, he couldnt even take off, and its ANOTHER guy that wasnt interested in learning how to take off or land, NOT hanjour

And you're STILL lying, because the holes were 16 FEET, which was the basis of Theirry Meyssan's delusion of missiles being launched into the Pentagon that you imbeciles have been suckered into believing for the past nine years!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO you retarded monkey, there was ONE hole and it was 16feet wide, but EITHER SIDE of that there SHOULD have been 9ft holes where the engines would have hit BUT THERE WERENT, 1 hole was created when it SHOULD have been 3, its not hard to understand so why do you have such a hard time with it?

And Theirry has noting to do with this, all he did was say “hey look at these pics taken BEFORE the roof collapsed, where is the plane?” Leave the messenger alone and listen to the message


The only person claiming that there were any "power downs" was Forbes, and his claims are based on mere assmuptions.
not true at all, at least 3 people did, but you dont want their names because “you dont need them” as you've said before

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You'd be better off ignoring Mr. Fire-Can't-Melt-Steel there.

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"not true at all, i became aware of the truth firstly through "9/11 Mysteries" (on my laptop)"
--Oh, yes...NOW I see the distiction You criticized people for suckering in to what the TV says, but you learned about the 9-11 conspiracy theory from your computer, which is simply another flickering screen that has the potential to feed you full of rubbish). You're too funny, mate, and too ironic to be real.


"no, that's what the commission did and media still does on this topic"
--Again, this thought of yours is simply jaw-dropping, sir. For the record, here is a link that explains the basics of the scientific method http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientifi c_method2.gif Pretty interesting, huh? Oh, don't mention it...you're more thant welcome

The 9-11 commission did NOT conduct science, and they never claimed to...they simply took the evidence from thousands of lines and tried to compile them into a coherent narrative of what happened that day. The members of the commission were politicians, not scientists. Also, the media never conducts science, and never claims to...they are not scientists. (In case you were wondering, the people in the media are called JOURNALISTS). Their job is to report (on scientific findings, or whatever), not to conduct science. Since the 9-11 Commission and the media are not scientists, you are setting up a straw man argument when you criticize them for not using the scientific method to reach their conclusions. I bet you actually believed (until just now) that you knew what the scientific method was and who actually applies it.

"you're the first to actually fail before getting started...I've never seen someone fail in just one post before"
--Come on...really? So now you've proven yourself to be Master of Irony AND a probable liar. Bravo, good sir...bra-VO!

As I clearly pointed out, the inside job folks are doing the exact reverse of the scientific method. The collapse of the World Trade Center is easily the most scientifically studied single event we've had in decades (and possible in the history of our country). Thousands of scientists from many scientific areas studied every facet of this event using the scientific method, and the vast majority came to conclusions very close to what the "Official Version" is. Their was a solid convergence of science and evidence that pointed in a specific direction (the Inside Job people can't even get their story straight--if you look at/watch/read a dozen Inside Job web sites/movies/books, they all have vastly different ideas about what "9-11 was an inside job" means). These thousands of scientists obviously know how to conduct science; your post shows that you obviously have either no idea of what the scientific method really is, or you have no idea about the history/process of how the Inside Job movement gathered its data and reached its conclusions. Whatever it is they are doing, The Inside Job movement is certainly not conducting science (or legitimate philosophy, for that matter)...this is painfully obvious to real scientists, and is obvious to anyone who took an into science class as a kid. Come on, kid...you must have see Bill Nye the Science Guy at least once!

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--Oh, yes...NOW I see the distiction You criticized people for suckering in to what the TV says, but you learned about the 9-11 conspiracy theory from your computer, which is simply another flickering screen that has the potential to feed you full of rubbish). You're too funny, mate, and too ironic to be real.

Sadly, there are too many people like Clown who are just as real... and don't see the irony of their claims.







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Sadly, there are too many people like Clown who are just as real... and don't see the irony of their claims.
HAHAHAH dude you need to look up what "irony" means because there's none here

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HAHAHAH dude you need to look up what "irony" means because there's none here

Ob, but there is. You condemn us for believing everything we see on TV, but YOU believe everything you see on twoofer websites.


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Ob, but there is. You condemn us for believing everything we see on TV, but YOU believe everything you see on twoofer websites.
No I see the OTHER side of the story, the OTHER information that the news doesnt report which paints a very different picture of what happened on 9/11

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No, what you see are rumors and lies, which are distortions of what happend on 9/11.

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No, what you see are rumors and lies, which are distortions of what happend on 9/11.
another incorrect post by Ddey65

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another incorrect post by Ddey65

No, it's a correct one.

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No, it's a correct one.
nope sorry, you still dont know what correct is yet (i'll give you a clue, go against your instincts when posting and you'll do good)

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I know YOU aren't correct, and for the record, what I post has nothing to do with my instincts.


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I know YOU aren't correct,
don you dont, you ASSUME so without reason or research

and for the record, what I post has nothing to do with my instincts.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA im not even gonna touch that one

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first off if you're gonna reply to me at least hit REPLY in my comment so I can reply to your reply (unless you're afraid)

--Oh, yes...NOW I see the distiction You criticized people for suckering in to what the TV says, but you learned about the 9-11 conspiracy theory from your computer, which is simply another flickering screen that has the potential to feed you full of rubbish). You're too funny, mate, and too ironic to be real.
silly billy thinking everything he sees on TV is real and they always investigate ever angle, now THAT'S funny

--Again, this thought of yours is simply jaw-dropping, sir. For the record, here is a link that explains the basics of the scientific method http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientifi c_method2.gif Pretty interesting, huh? Oh, don't mention it...you're more thant welcome
great, another idiot who starts off asking questions but just ends up talking crap, I know the scientific methods, and no, those of the commission dont stand up

The 9-11 commission did NOT conduct science,
agreed (and yet you think its a bullet proof argument

and they never claimed to...they simply took the evidence from thousands of lines and tried to compile them into a coherent narrative of what happened that day.
no they took what was reported and put it into what they thought a plausible story


The members of the commission were politicians, not scientists.
I know (give me something new)

Also, the media never conducts science, and never claims to...they are not scientists. (In case you were wondering, the people in the media are called JOURNALISTS).
yes, and as JOURNALISTS they are supposed to INVESTIGATE, not just take the word of people (thats called being DOING YOUR JOB)

Their job is to report (on scientific findings, or whatever), not to conduct science.
no their job is to FIND OUT things THEN report them and in this case they just believed what they were told WITHOUT investigation

Since the 9-11 Commission and the media are not scientists, you are setting up a straw man argument when you criticize them for not using the scientific method to reach their conclusions. I bet you actually believed (until just now) that you knew what the scientific method was and who actually applies it.
Hahaha, no no , YOURS is the strawman argument, we present the OTHER facts that the media ignored, we present no theory only facts, you just cant handle them because 9/11 has become like a religion to you that must not be challenged

--Come on...really? So now you've proven yourself to be Master of Irony AND a probable liar. Bravo, good sir...bra-VO!
Hahaha, you've not proved anything other than you know nothing

As I clearly pointed out, the inside job folks are doing the exact reverse of the scientific method.
carrying out experiments to get to the bottom of how it all happened (the opposite of what NIST did) is the OPPOSITE of scientific method? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH …........ HAHAHAHAHAHAH....... Hahahah …. haha …. ha .. ha. Great stuff

The collapse of the World Trade Center is easily the most scientifically studied single event we've had in decades (and possible in the history of our country).
Agreed

Thousands of scientists from many scientific areas studied every facet of this event using the scientific method, and the vast majority came to conclusions very close to what the "Official Version" is.
Wrong (and the opposite which you choose to ignore)

Their was a solid convergence of science and evidence that pointed in a specific direction
not true all reports STOP at the point of “collapse” (try reading something)

(the Inside Job people can't even get their story straight--if you look at/watch/read a dozen Inside Job web sites/movies/books, they all have vastly different ideas about what "9-11 was an inside job" means).
not true, “Inside Job” means it was the elements of the U.S intelligence and people in government acting with Mossad and MI6 to create a reason for war (and even if this wasnt the case … which it is …... that wouldnt change the FACT that the official story doesnt stand up and its so easy to see that they would have spotted it and so to say something ELSE happened is to cover up what DID happen and you'd do that WHY if you didnt have to to save your own ass?

These thousands of scientists obviously know how to conduct science;
as do “our” scientists, only difference is “ours” dont have to look for stuff that can be used to re-enforce the official story in some way to get funding

your post shows that you obviously have either no idea of what the scientific method really is,
Ha, you'll have to do better than that

or you have no idea about the history/process of how the Inside Job movement gathered its data and reached its conclusions.
started when SCIENTISTS were troubled by the events and carried out their own experiments (being as an investigation was BLOCKED for so long) and impossibilities started to arise

Whatever it is they are doing, The Inside Job movement is certainly not conducting science (or legitimate philosophy, for that matter)
hahaha except for all the SCIENCE that has been put out of course

...this is painfully obvious to real scientists,
apparently you arent aware that the movement has hundreds of scientists itself (as well as architects and engineers)

and is obvious to anyone who took an into science class as a kid.
yes it is and yet you STILL dont grasp anything about the events, maybe in your next post you could actually focus on an event instead of random nothingness

Come on, kid...you must have see Bill Nye the Science Guy at least once!
sorry kid, from the U.K

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no they took what was reported and put it into what they thought a plausible story

It beats the far-fetched story YOU insist on believing.

no their job is to FIND OUT things THEN report them and in this case they just believed what they were told WITHOUT investigation

No they didn't, and if they did what YOU wanted, they'd simply be making crap up!


Hahaha, no no , YOURS is the strawman argument, we present the OTHER facts that the media ignored, we present no theory only facts, you just cant handle them because 9/11 has become like a religion to you that must not be challenged

No you don't. You perpetuate MYTHS, RUMORS, FALSE REPORTS, and even ENEMY PROPAGANDA about the attacks.


not true, “Inside Job” means it was the elements of the U.S intelligence and people in government acting with Mossad and MI6 to create a reason for war

That notion isn't the only lie you conspiracy freaks have been making, but it's still a lie, and what you scumbags belittle as "the official story" DOES stand up!



as do “our” scientists, only difference is “ours” dont have to look for stuff that can be used to re-enforce the official story in some way to get funding

Instead, you look for stuff used to reinforce your conspiracy theories, and claim it's scientific proof of an inside job.



hahaha except for all the SCIENCE that has been put out of course

Oh, you mean like dropping two wooden blocks over one cardboard box, and burning thermite beneath a metal sign that does nothing but put on a long, boring light show? Yeah, we've seen your so-called "science!"


apparently you arent aware that the movement has hundreds of scientists itself (as well as architects and engineers)

Apparently, you're STILL unaware that the majority are NOT REAL SCIENTISTS, and are actually ordinary suckers like you who fell for BS and signed a petition because they believe these psuedo-scientists.








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It beats the far-fetched story YOU insist on believing.
Hahahahaha, classic Ddey, a response without an answer

No they didn't,
yes they did, the government said “it happened this way” and they just went along with it without ANY kind of independent investigation

and if they did what YOU wanted, they'd simply be making crap up!
no, I request that they INVESTIGATE the events and all parties involved, thats the OPPOSITE of what the suggest

No you don't. You perpetuate MYTHS, RUMORS, FALSE REPORTS, and even ENEMY PROPAGANDA about the attacks.
no we provide the SCIENCE the media ignores, the history of the accused that shows they are not what the TV makes them out to be and debunk all the stupid stuff you'd have to be a jack ass to believe

That notion isn't the only lie you conspiracy freaks have been making, but it's still a lie, and what you scumbags belittle as "the official story" DOES stand up!
no its not and no it doesnt, the official story is just a tall tale to keep idiots like you believing that the U.S is the greatest country in the world and the best hope for truth and justice around the world and everyone is out to get you because you're so good, which you then eat up because you're simple

Instead, you look for stuff used to reinforce your conspiracy theories, and claim it's scientific proof of an inside job.
wrong again, we point out scientific fact ignored by the news that shows the official story is a lie to cover up the government conspiracy behind it

Oh, you mean like dropping two wooden blocks over one cardboard box,
Errr, no,

and burning thermite beneath a metal sign that does nothing but put on a long, boring light show? Yeah, we've seen your so-called "science!"
HA no thats what the TV docs did, you havent seen any of our stuff because you refuse to watch it and you cant learn something new if you refuse to pay attention

Apparently, you're STILL unaware that the majority are NOT REAL SCIENTISTS, and are actually ordinary suckers like you who fell for BS and signed a petition because they believe these psuedo-scientists.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah, high school, college, university and GOVERNMENT scientists arent real scientists what a loser

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Hahahahaha, classic Ddey, a response without an answer

More like classic clown, denying the answer because it doesn't fit his agenda!

yes they did, the government said “it happened this way” and they just went along with it without ANY kind of independent investigation

No, it wasn't just "the government" that said it happend that way, it was the people who witnessed and survived the attacks, some of which said the same thing before they WERE MURDERED BY THE HIJACKERS!!



no we provide the SCIENCE the media ignores, the history of the accused that shows they are not what the TV makes them out to be and debunk all the stupid stuff you'd have to be a jack ass to believe

The media DOES NOT ignore your BS, in fact they give you ass holes too much attention as it is. You don't provide science, you just provide something that LOOKS LIKE science!!



no its not and no it doesnt, the official story is just a tall tale to keep idiots like you believing that the U.S is the greatest country in the world and the best hope for truth and justice around the world and everyone is out to get you because you're so good, which you then eat up because you're simple

No, it's the TWOOFER PROPAGANDA that's the tall tales to keep idiots like YOU into thinking you can stop war and change the world, that there's no such thing as evil people who have to be destroyed, and that by following us you're not the sheep that you are!!



HA no thats what the TV docs did, you havent seen any of our stuff because you refuse to watch it and you cant learn something new if you refuse to pay attention

Oh, no. That IS your stuff. YOUR people dropped two wooden blocks over one cardboard box. That was Richard Gage the cult lead of A&E911Truth who did this in HIS OWN VIDEO! YOUR people were also the ones who went to a Burning Man festival and used thermite to try to burn down a metal sign for their own video/website to prove the towers were brought down by thermite, and FAILED MISERABLY!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah, high school, college, university and GOVERNMENT scientists arent real scientists

Except that's not what they are.

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More like classic clown, denying the answer because it doesn't fit his agenda!
no, what you said (”It beats the far-fetched story YOU insist on believing. ) isn't an answer, it's comment (learn the difference)

No, it wasn't just "the government" that said it happened that way, it was the people who witnessed and survived the attacks, some of which said the same thing before they WERE MURDERED BY THE HIJACKERS!!
WRONG,what the media put forward was what the Government told them (about things like “hijackers”) – they IGNORED what was said by witnesses and survivors if it didnt fit their story (like the EXPLOSIONS you deny)

The media DOES NOT ignore your BS, in fact they give you ass holes too much attention as it is. You don't provide science, you just provide something that LOOKS LIKE science!!
yes we DO provide science, you just choose to ignore it, I bet you couldnt name one thing we've put forward (though you'd say that's because there isnt any, even though you bring stuff up occasionally)

No, it's the TWOOFER PROPAGANDA that's the tall tales to keep idiots like YOU into thinking you can stop war and change the world, that there's no such thing as evil people who have to be destroyed, and that by following us you're not the sheep that you are!!
WTF? It only takes ONE person to stop a war, and it wouldnt take much to change the world, and yes while there ARE evil people, they're not all aimed at destroying america, they are serial killers and rapists, people trafficers and big pharma execs (and you last bit didn't even make sense AGAIN, well done) they're not all suicidal muslims like you like to believe

Oh, no. That IS your stuff. YOUR people dropped two wooden blocks over one cardboard box.
I was talking about the thermite under a steel beam idiot, thats why I quoted THAT LINE (god what a moron)

That was Richard Gage the cult lead of A&E911Truth who did this in HIS OWN VIDEO!
WRONG, you should really LISTEN to what he says when he shows videos, you might learn something, in the case of thermite under a beam doing nothing, THAT was something shown on tv to “prove” thermite couldnt have brought down the towers (I.e YOUR argument) whereas we showed how you add it to the beam PROPERLY instead of just putting some thermite next to it (retard)

YOUR people were also the ones who went to a Burning Man festival and used thermite to try to burn down a metal sign for their own video/website to prove the towers were brought down by thermite, and FAILED MISERABLY!!
B.S you need to stop watching dumb videos on youtube uploaded by people pretending to be someone else

Except that's not what they are.
yes it is, they ARE high school, college, university and government scientists, you know it, you've even talked about Steven Jones (you know that UNIVERSITY scientist) and Kevin Ryan (you ow that NIST scientist) so you cant act liked its kids with chemistry sets, sorry

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no, what you said (”It beats the far-fetched story YOU insist on believing. ) isn't an answer, it's comment (learn the difference)

If what I said was just a comment, so was yours. You're still full of $h!t!


WRONG,what the media put forward was what the Government told them (about things like “hijackers”) – they IGNORED what was said by witnesses and survivors if it didnt fit their story (like the EXPLOSIONS you deny)

No, what the media put forward was what the government AND the people told them, and what YOU put forward is your false interpretations of what happened. The firemen said that it SOUNDED LIKE explosions, and YOU LIARS claimed they were bombs!




yes we DO provide science, you just choose to ignore it,

No, you DON'T provide science. You provide JUNK SCIENCE that is designed to back your propaganda, just like the frantic parent groups who do this with kids' enetertainment choices, enviromentalist groups who thwart highway construction, and Neo-Nazis who claim Whites/Aryans are the "superior race."




WTF? It only takes ONE person to stop a war,

No it doesn't.


and it wouldnt take much to change the world, and yes while there ARE evil people, they're not all aimed at destroying america,

You're right. They're aimed at destroying the entire non-Muslim world, including America.


they are serial killers and rapists, people trafficers and big pharma execs

Funny you mnentioned "phama execs," since that aspirin factory we hit in Sudan was owned by Osama Bin Laden. Of course

and you last bit didn't even make sense AGAIN, well done

Oh, but it DOES make sense. The cult leaders who conned you into thinking you've "woken up" by following twoofer propaganda have manipulated you into thinking that by falling for their lies, you're not sheep and we are. But the truth is the exact opposite.


I was talking about the thermite under a steel beam idiot, thats why I quoted THAT LINE

Which was also proven to be untrue.

WRONG, you should really LISTEN to what he says when he shows videos, you might learn something,

I don't have to learn what any of those jerkoffs are telling me, because I know it's not true. What Gage wants us to believe has nothing to do with how Flights 11 and 175 destroyed both towers, and his followers who believe his lie are willfully ignorant of this fact.

B.S you need to stop watching dumb videos on youtube uploaded by people pretending to be someone else

"Pretending to be someone else?" Sorry, but the twoofers weren't pretending. They just got caught with egg on their faces.



yes it is, they ARE high school, college, university and government scientists, you know it, you've even talked about Steven Jones (you know that UNIVERSITY scientist) and Kevin Ryan (you ow that NIST scientist) so you cant act liked its kids with chemistry sets, sorry

Most of them might was well be kids with chemistry sets. Stephen Jones is a crackpot who's mad at the feds because they didn't help him get his cold fusion experiments off the ground, and Kevin Ryan's name came up when you twoofers claimed he worked with Underwriter Laboratories and had certified the steel in the WTC, when in reality UL had nothing to do with it.












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If what I said was just a comment, so was yours. You're still full of $h!t!
not true at all, I pointed something out, you commented, just because YOU commented doesnt mean I did you insane chicken, get your I.Q tested

there you go swearing again like a Fox viewer

No, what the media put forward was what the government AND the people told them, and what YOU put forward is your false interpretations of what happened. The firemen said that it SOUNDED LIKE explosions, and YOU LIARS claimed they were bombs!
No you are a dumb liar, they ignored LOTS of testimony from witnesses after the first few days, and they, and the firefighters DID SAY EXPLOSIONS, not “like explosions” but ACTUAL explosions, you've been give video links to their words before but ignored them because you're ignorant

No, you DON'T provide science. You provide JUNK SCIENCE that is designed to back your propaganda, just like the frantic parent groups who do this with kids' enetertainment choices, enviromentalist groups who thwart highway construction, and Neo-Nazis who claim Whites/Aryans are the "superior race."
no not true at all, YOU do the junk science that is obvious horse crap, we video everything (now stop trying to lump us in with other groups and stick to the topic in hand)

No it doesn't.
yes it does, the president could stop it any second

You're right. They're aimed at destroying the entire non-Muslim world, including America.
oh so now ALL bad people are exclusively Muslims? Wow, talk about racist crap, so all Muslims are violent extremists, wow, you're crazier by the day

Funny you mnentioned "phama execs," since that aspirin factory we hit in Sudan was owned by Osama Bin Laden. Of course
no it wasnt and WTF? I say pharma execs because they make people pay through the ass to get meds to keep them alive

so do you just sit and make up an excuse for every “mistake” the U.S makes?

Oh, but it DOES make sense. The cult leaders who conned you into thinking you've "woken up" by following twoofer propaganda have manipulated you into thinking that by falling for their lies, you're not sheep and we are. But the truth is the exact opposite.
no your last bit DIDNT make sense, it was missing words, the sentence was incomplete, and no, again there are no cults leaders here because its not one, hell we're not even a real GROUP, there are no meetings, no membership, no nothing, we are simply the people who have discovered the truth behind an event who are working with each other to wake others up to it too

Which was also proven to be untrue.
oh my God you're stupid, i'm talking about YOUR video not mine dum dum

I don't have to learn what any of those jerkoffs are telling me, because I know it's not true.
well done, you dont have to listen to know something isnt true …..... but …..... how can you know what sint true if you dont listen to know what is being said in the first place? [grin] dumb ass

What Gage wants us to believe has nothing to do with how Flights 11 and 175 destroyed both towers, and his followers who believe his lie are willfully ignorant of this fact.
the planes did NOT destroy the towers, HELL, the official story says the FIRES did the job and not the planes so they're wrong both sides of the fence AGAIN, are you looking for a dumb ass award?

"Pretending to be someone else?" Sorry, but the twoofers weren't pretending. They just got caught with egg on their faces.
really? They made a video of themselves getting “proved wrong” and uploaded it anyway? HAHAHAHAHA

Most of them might was well be kids with chemistry sets. Stephen Jones is a crackpot who's mad at the feds because they didn't help him get his cold fusion experiments off the ground,
no, the “FED'S” have nothing to do with funding (you dumb ass) and the government would NEVER fund something that could end up giving people free power, they're only interested in what has money to be made in it

and Kevin Ryan's name came up when you twoofers claimed he worked with Underwriter Laboratories and had certified the steel in the WTC, when in reality UL had nothing to do with it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA UL had nothing to do with ….. ? holy crap, you should tell someone quick [grin] you couldnt be more wrong on a subject, the reason he was fired was because he was THERE when they did it and they LIED about the results, he asked why and was punished for it

if you get any stupider you'll need a diaper
thank for the replies over the last few days, i've got some BRIALLIANT quotes out of it

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You'd be better off ignoring Mr. Fire-Can't-Melt-Steel there.
hey jack ass where you been?

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