Wow. So, let's start with the theories. Who is this guy really? The Devil, a wayward angel, a demon, something else? Was it the same guy in the photo? It looked like it to me. Does Earl know him? I think it's safe to say that I don't think he's working for the same team as Earl. Is he causing the bad events after the miracles?
sharewell.. in my opinion.. he is the opposite of an 'Angel'- it seems as if no one seems him except for Grace. Also, he may not be causing the bad events that follow Grace's 'miracle,' but he is obviously a catalyst to the impending events.
shareIf you remember, when Earl was at the bar talking to his angel friend, he said that "we need to watch out, darkness always follows a miracle and tries to destroy it."
Whoever this guy is, he's definitely evil out trying to destroy the good feelings caused by the miracle of Grace surviving their fall. I was thinking either fallen angel or demon. Then I thought that if he'd been a fallen angel, that Earl would have known him...and he didn't. So now I'm back to thinking demon again.
As to Earl knowing him, no, he doesn't. I say that because he didn't recognize him at the bar. Earl did, however, sense the bad in him because when he walked behind Earl, Earl got a look on his face and turned to watch him walk away.
Grace REALLY needs to quit sleeping with every Tom, Dick, and Harry! Geez! She's lucky it wasn't Hut's plan to kill her while having sex with her last night.
And it was Hut in that picture.
What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world.
This was posted in another thread & might help explain a little bit more:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Saving-Grace-Holly-Hunter-1016748.aspx?rss =breakingnews&partnerid=imdb&profileid=01
In real life he's Gordon MacDonald...Holly's boyfriend.
Thanks so much for the link, Jude. It is very much appreciated.
What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world.
I really hope he is not a demon. I'd hate for SG to turn into Supernatural. That's not why I am watching the show...
shareHmmm...I've been thinking about this since I saw the episode.
Hut ...perhaps a "dark angel." I wonder if he is similar to the character on Fringe: "The Observer" ...always seem to be there (and caught in photos) of tragic events. He must have some connection to Oklahoma City ...isn't that where the floods were where the picture was taken?
He seems to have taken an interest in Grace. Maybe he is there to be her "devil on one shoulder" while Earl is the angel on the other. It is up to her to make the choice.
Another thought, could he have made some "soul" deal with the Devil in order to survive the floods back in the 20s? Maybe his is doing his bidding?
Anyhoo, lots of questions arise with him and how his character will be a part of the final episodes and Grace.
I do, though, have a feeling Grace will not make it out of this series alive.
Man, I am soooo bummed this show is ending. :-(
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Is the name Hut Flanders an anagram? I don't think he is "The" devil, but if the name is an anagram it might explain a little more who he might be. I've been trying to figure it out with no luck. Perhaps it has been addressed elsewhere, but I haven't been able to find it.
As far as the finale ***Spoiler Alert****** I believe since he was somewhat vulnerable to the gunshots a massive explosion could destroy him. I also believe that Grace sacrificed herself to destroy Hut and protect her loved ones and her beloved city from future harm.
Well, in strictly Christian terms, the Devil is not immortal. He ends up thrown into the Lake of Fire at the End of Days and he is also created by God early on. So, the idea that Evil is eternal is really a dualistic (two equal gods, one Good and one Evil) heresy in Christian terms. In Christianity (all three of the abrahamic religions, really), not only God, but humanity is even older than the Devil (and Evil) and will also outlive him.
So, with the concepts of Original Sin and humans' ability/desire to commit plenty of Evil on their own already out there in the show, it's not really a logical impossibility for Grace to kill the Devil.
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Where, exactly, is it in the bible that the devil is younger than humanity? I have never seen this, but I guess maybe its true you can find any thing you want to find in the bible?
shareTo take it down quite a few notches intellectually, I will sight the (junk?) source Supernatural were it is said that the reason the devil was thrown out of Heaven is that he would not bow down to God's new favorite, humans, and that was the act of disobedience that caused him to be cast into hell. He then endeavors to prove that humanity is not worthy which causes his path of evil. Now is that actually from a biblical source of some kind? It would prove that the devil is younger than humanity.
shareTo take it down quite a few notches intellectually, I will sight the (junk?) source Supernatural were it is said that the reason the devil was thrown out of Heaven is that he would not bow down to God's new favorite, humans, and that was the act of disobedience that caused him to be cast into hell. He then endeavors to prove that humanity is not worthy which causes his path of evil. Now is that actually from a biblical source of some kind? It would prove that the devil is younger than humanity.
Where, exactly, is it in the bible that the devil is younger than humanity? I have never seen this, but I guess maybe its true you can find any thing you want to find in the bible?
hadn't some of the angels already rebelled and been cast out--BEFORE God created the Earth and humanity and Eve tempted Adam to sin because she was seduced by the snake--representing EVIL/Devil???
since snakes were created before Adam--evil has to pre-date humanity...
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Either way, Evil doesn't come into existence until Eve and Adam exercise their free will and disobey God. So, an embodiment of Evil cannot preexist their existence. In strict, cosmological terms, both Evil and Death are mortal.
first, i think you have a great idea about hut flanders being an anagram cuz it's a wonky name.
the problem with her sacrificing herself to destory hut is it didn't work. granted the police took him away in cuffs but he's not dead and will likely continue to wreak havoc on the city etc.
i think he's pretty much the embodiment of evil and he bassically said that too SPOILERS*****when he was pouring acid on grace's back that all he had to do was to give neeley meth and buy grace one drink and she was his whore. so he's doing the evil things after the miracle of her living.
i'm not full of virtues and noble qualities. i love. that is all.
Hence Hut was born.
shareTo me Hut Flanders, is darkness, The Darkness. Some call it the Devil, Satan, Evil choose your tag. I've just finished watching the final series, dried my tears and know Grace will be in a good place.
I believe she 'killed' Hut. That is what she was being prepared for all along. At one point Earl asks god/dog if that is her plan for Grace. Earl is upset.
Grace went through the Darkness, came out the other side, then she took it on and won.