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you americans are beep up

posted 16 years ago by mr_crappynick
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mmm... i mean its not like anywhere else dont have horrible crimes like this but you have to accept guys that the US has the most *beep* up crimes in history, in it majority caused by caucasian people (serial killers, crazy ass girls, high school massacres, pretty *beep* up *beep* for an instance, is not unusual for me to find out in the news that some crazy ass white girl killed her son or daughter because she was depressed or some stupid *beep* like that, i dont think that people are born *beep* up (or i dont know if you guys have it on the genes haha), instead, i think that the us culture its pretty repressed and very influenced by violence its the only way i could imagine some crazy ass *beep* like this happens, i know that a lot of angry people might reply to this message telling me to go to hell or that my mother should go throw herself from a precipice or something like that, im just throwing that out there.....
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mr. crappynick
greetings from mexico

pd. yeah i know our water sucks
have a good one

[–] lorelei_anne 16 years ago

ACUTALLY, many of the most heinous crimes and most unusual happen outside of the U.S. Yes, they have had their fair share of serial killers, but other countries have many also. Look at what just happened in Edmonton... The circus people being kept and tortured in Italy... And the news report I read saying that approximately 2,000 people have been killed in Mexico this year...since January! There is a crime problem everywhere now, we just hear about it more when it's from the U.S. I'm in no way defending the U.S. just pointing out there are other countries with more crime.

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[–] Belletrist0 16 years ago

Good point, lorelei_anne.

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[–] lorelei_anne 15 years ago

Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. And never did I mention the prison system or anything about race.
And "da" isn't a word.

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[–] IMDb-Rot_in_Hell 7 years ago

You are pathetic and it would be just wonderful if you killed yourself.

[–] sybil_vane31 13 years ago

just for your information the Bulgarian people that worked in the circus were never physically tortured but humiliated forcing them to perform in the circus with potential dangerous animals, they weren't kept against their will but the luck of other choice and assistance forbidden the family to leave the circus which is well different from actually torturing people to death. saying that I hope the circus owner rot in hell for what he done to that poor family, also I agree with you, crimes and serial killers are everywhere just happens that U.S. is a very large.

[–] Barbiegirl676 12 years ago

2000 people killed in Mexico in 2008? Gosh, I wish our numbers (in the US) were so low... seriously.

According to <http> http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0312.pdf </http>, 16,272 were killed by homicide in the US in 2008. With a population of 308,745,538 in 2008 (<http> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html </http>), that means that 1 in 18,974 people in the United States were murdered in 2008.

Mexico has a population of 107,431,000 (<http> http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:MEX&dl=en&hl=en&q=population+in+mexico </http>) and, according to you (and I didn't bother to confirm your number because this post is trying to point out your attempt to bloat "facts", despite whether those facts are correct or not), 2000 people were murdered in Mexico in 2008, according to the "news report" you read. Now, that 2000 people were from Jan - the end of September. That's 3/4 of the year... so I'll be generous and say that around 2666 people were murdered by the end of the year (2000 is 3/4 of 2666). So the population of Mexico (107,431,000) divided by the number of people murdered (2666 according to you) equals 1 in 40296 people get murdered in Mexico.

Comparing those two results:

1 in 18,974 people were murdered in the US in 2008
1 in 40,296 people were murdered in Mexico in 2008

That means that twice the percentage of people were murdered in the US. Even taking in that we are 3 times more densely populated, the murder rate is MUCH higher in the US than in Mexico.

[–] Guamley 9 years ago

"Comparing those two results:

1 in 18,974 people were murdered in the US in 2008
1 in 40,296 people were murdered in Mexico in 2008

That means that twice the percentage of people were murdered in the US. Even taking in that we are 3 times more densely populated, the murder rate is MUCH higher in the US than in Mexico."

Now break it down by race. The fact is more than 50% of those murders are committed by blacks despite comprising only 13% of the population. Also, I bet you didn't know that Mexicans in America are counted as white in the crime statistics. The bottom line is there are more Hispanics committing murder in America then are whites.

[–] Gary O. (997) 6 years ago

2000 people killed in Mexico in 2008? Gosh, I wish our numbers (in the US) were so low... seriously.

According to http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0312.pdf , 16,272 were killed by homicide in the US in 2008. With a population of 308,745,538 in 2008 ( http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html ), that means that 1 in 18,974 people in the United States were murdered in 2008.

Mexico has a population of 107,431,000 ( http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:MEX&dl=en&hl=en&q=population+in+mexico ) and, according to you (and I didn't bother to confirm your number because this post is trying to point out your attempt to bloat "facts", despite whether those facts are correct or not), 2000 people were murdered in Mexico in 2008, according to the "news report" you read. Now, that 2000 people were from Jan - the end of September. That's 3/4 of the year... so I'll be generous and say that around 2666 people were murdered by the end of the year (2000 is 3/4 of 2666). So the population of Mexico (107,431,000) divided by the number of people murdered (2666 according to you) equals 1 in 40296 people get murdered in Mexico.

Comparing those two results:

1 in 18,974 people were murdered in the US in 2008
1 in 40,296 people were murdered in Mexico in 2008

That means that twice the percentage of people were murdered in the US. Even taking in that we are 3 times more densely populated, the murder rate is MUCH higher in the US than in Mexico.

In 2015 the homicide rates were as follows:

USA rate 4.8/100,000

Mexico rate 16.35/100,000

So the US homicide rate has fallen while the rate in Mexico has risen.

[–] trigger_jam 16 years ago

I suppose if this crime is strictly american in nature then considering how america influences other parts of this world it would be safe to conclude that the american nature of this crime easily transcends the physical boundaries of america. A recent case is of the Austrian father who imprisoned his own daughter for 18 years and even had kids with her all the while keeping her locked in the basement while her own mother lived upstairs in total ignorance of the fact.
I would be willing to accept only marginally the point that this happens because the US culture is obsessed with violence. But perhaps that obsession with violence is not the root of such crimes and rather the fruit of something deeper and more individualistic.

[–] Falconeer 16 years ago

First off, no one is going to take your comments seriously when you can barely complete a sentence without a word that needs to be bleeped out. Don't you know this way of expressing yourself makes you sound ignorant? Second of all, MEXICO?! Isn't that snuff film land? Isnt mexico the place where you can buy child prostitutes, and legally obtain date-rape drugs? Come on. Sickness and perversion know no cultural or racial boundaries; it is universal, it is happening everywhere. third, if you disagree with me on this, well then, *beep* you, you *beep* *beep*!

[–] salimy3k 15 years ago

Making fun of the third world status of the poster to cover up the fact that More sicko stuff happens in your 'supposed' 'civilized country' (funny how your ex-President called a bunch of countries led by yes-men 'the coalition of the willing', not to mention the fact that a bunch of mercenaries who were going to attack a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 'the civilized world' - yep, a bunch of guys going to war are 'civilized'!) is retarded. This movie is based on a real life case that makes it all the more disturbing - and the light punishment meted out to the perpetrators makes it all the more sickening. Fact of the matter is, the US has more violent crime than any other developed country, and your berating of some guy living in a south american country that has turned bad because YOUR government keeps giving money to right-wing paramilitaries to fight drug cartels which are in existance only because rich white kids in the US love to abuse their bodies only makes you look like a racist, reactionary whiner. I guess you only get punished severely if you're black or poor in your country, right?

[–] Falconeer 15 years ago

First of all, I am not from USA, I am from Romania. I was not defending America in any way. I was simply stating that violence and crime are universal things, it is happening everywhere. It was not a basis for some political argument, you frustrated idiot. How do you manage to walk around carrying all this hatred and bitterness with you? Your life must really suck, huh? Also, if you want to even attempt a political discussion, then I advise that you get your facts up-to-date. The situation in the USA is changed drastically recently, both politically and otherwise. In case you haven't heard; Bush is gone, and the war mongering Republican party is gone. You know why they are gone? Because AMERICANS voted them out of power. Get over it, Europe's opinion of America is changing, stop living in the past. I'll tell you something else, you might want to sit down for this one: Hitler is dead too, they no longer fly the Swastica banner in Germany!!!! But I guess you still think Germans are nazis. It looks like you might be forced to find something else to hate, besides America, and yourself (obviously.)

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[–] guardianange29 13 years ago

That was the most ignorant post ever.They have beheading an torture in mexico everyday.An secondly cops are so corrupt in mexico you wouldnt even here of this if it happened there which it probably had.An lastly what about borderland.or those kids 3 guys an a hammer.This guy is obviously very ignorant.

[–] Mattbasterson 15 years ago

You're right. I'd sure much rather live in your third-world rectum of a country where the police and government are so hopelessly corrupt that they cow-tow to the likes of the Zetas and other cartel "heroes."

[–] me_assassin 15 years ago

Yet another bit of American bashing due to myopic viewpoints. Perhaps everyone forgets that the individuals doing the crimes in American cites are either descendent from another country, actually a citizen of another country, or illegal imigrants. The only actual fact is, in America we have an excessive amount of media, thus EVERYTHING is reported, and general hyped. It is not that more crime occurs, it is that anything reportable is reported. Look around the world, mass slayings, mass torturings, genocide, murders every second, rapes every other second, slavery, and on and on. All of which have been going on for thousands of years. The only unique American portion is, media coverage. Is that really a negative?

Max

[–] Can_a_bitch_get_a_donut 15 years ago

Yeah, America has problems, compared to other countries, but good grief, we're far from the worst. Look at Africa, southeast Asia, eastern Europe. I mean holy cock!

I can kill you with my brain.

[–] couzijn 11 years ago

Yes, I look at the countries you mentioned - and then what?

Even if I only look at western countries, the US is by far the most violent of them all.

And not because it's big, or because it has media. The US is a violent and dangerous country to live in. It has a culture of violence. Just look at the number of people, including children, who get wounded, shot, and murdered day-by-day in the US. And now look at comparable western countries. You'd be surprised.

[–] actionmanrandell 8 years ago

the media in the u.s simply reports crimes more often. other nations censor there media and make sure nothing negative gets out. a common thing that happens in the media is that when crime is down. the media reports the crimes more often. when its high the media reports it less.

[–] The Gryphon 15 years ago

I agree we're a little screwed up in America as far as violence is concerned...but the horrors are everywhere in the world. We just publicize our flaws via motion picture and television under the guise of "entertainment."

Remember, the Soviet bloc countries had all sorts of horrors happen in those countries for many years, yet the press wasn't free to report it. In America our free press shines a light in every dark little corner of every neighborhood.

The question is, would you rather live in a country where the horrors are broadcast daily or in a country where you don't know if a serial killer is on the loose in your neighborhood.

Personally, I'd rather be aware of the atrocities rather than have the news quelled "to calm the public."

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