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Too many episodes? (spoilers)

posted 13 years ago by flopw
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I'm sorry, I'll sound like a smartass but after episode 1 Vagn was my number one suspect because of the obvious band-aid on his neck. I hoped this series was a bit smarter than this, giving this big a hint in the beginning.

I enjoyed the ride, but I think it would have been a lot better if it was made in 10 episodes. There were too many suspects not wanting to give alibis (like being a number 1 suspect in a murdercase is better for your career than attempting suicide...), too much sloppy policework and too much coalition-negotiations that stretched the series beyond believability. And what was up with all the tableturning phone-calls during those negotiations, cross examinations and familyvisits. Is it normal in Denmark to answer your phone when you are talking to someone face to face? If that icequeen Lund picked up her phone when she was telling me my daughter was raped and killed I would destroy her phone immediately, how rude!

Hmm, a lot of bitching on a show I quite enjoyed. I was wondering if these things also annoyed you guys? I'm going to buy series 2 and found out it has 10 episodes so maybe I'll enjoy series 2 more.

[–] frosthv 13 years ago

Well :)

the sloppy policework part is very common in Denmark

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[–] cinesimon 13 years ago

Sloppy police work is common everywhere.
It's extremely prevalent in America, given their reliance on 'truthiness', and their outright ejection of science.

[–] film_rat 13 years ago

This is exactly how this mini (?) series works. One suspect no.1 after another is presented, until finally it's the right one. Of course could they have done it in 10 parts, with 5 main suspects less, but they could have done it as well in 40 parts, with 10 main suspects more. :-) The question is, if it is still believable and entertaining.

As for Troels: The suspect of being the murder of Nanna could have been destroyed (as it happens later), but once he would have admitted that he had tried to commit suicide, be would not have been able to make it unhappen, it would have remained.

I don't know if it is "normal in Denmark to answer your phone while talking to someone face to face", but Lund was in the midst of a police investigation, and the rules of politeness maybe don't work here.

English is not my first language. Any corrections are welcome.

[–] mentalist_1 13 years ago

I really loved watching this 1st series. Every episode ended with a
cliffhanger wanting to watch the next episode right after.

The only thing that bothered me was the fact that they left some questions unanswered.

How did Vagn knew where keys to Troels car were???? (maybe Nanna told him)

If Vagn was talking to Pernille and Theis at their home, how could he also be at the storage place where Lund and Jan were?????

When did Vagn gave nanna the necklace?????

I now Vagn was in love with nanna but why did he rape her????? (Because she wouldn't listen to him)

If Rie cleaned the apartment a little bit why did morten confess to Troels that he did it????

The end of the 19th episode was just brilliant when Lund discovered what Jan was talking about when he said the words Sara en 84.

Other than that this series was one of the best i have seen in a long long long time. The acting was also superb esspecially form Sofie Grabol and Lars Mikkelsen.

[–] carlphillips408 13 years ago

i have watched the entire series 1 this week.i did not even attempt a guess at who the murderer was.i found the show to be terrible,long winded & badly written.but having said all that,i was not disappointed at the ending.
i was disappointed at the end of stephen king's "it" which was also long winded.

[–] Buddy_Dakota 13 years ago

I agree with this. I was thrilled when it ran, but looking back at it I feel robbed, because it had been 20 episodes of going from one suspect to the next, until finally ending up with the more obvious one. I don't think anyone in the production knew who the killer was, except for maybe the writer. And what was the point of the politician part? In the end, none of the politicians had anything to do with the murder (IIRC, it's been a while since I watched). The show was intense, but because of the cheap writing, I didn't bother to watch the sequel.

[–] donadiani 13 years ago

can anyone tell me why Nanna half naked and after being raped still had her video-rental card with her?
saying this, I still loved the series, best thing on TV in ages!

[–] PoppyTransfusion 13 years ago

Troels had left the car keys in the flat. He walked home after leaving.

The phone from Birk Larsen movers re-directed to Vagn's phone when the office was empty.

I'm not sure about the necklace, but go with the idea that Nanna managed to rip it off Vagn's neck at some point in their struggle.

I don't believe Vagn was in love with Nanna. He wanted to preserve the family and didn't want Theis and Pernille being upset or the boys who he seemed closest to. I think he raped her because he could.

Rie didn't clean the apartment. Morten admitted it was him.

The end of the 19th episode was just brilliant when Lund discovered what Jan was talking about when he said the words Sara en 84.

That was a really effective and creepy scene. He knew she had clocked something and was warning her to leave it alone. Had she not acted the way she had, he probably would have killed her.

rouge silk,
fierce concentrated joy,
fires the blood

[–] gtbarker 13 years ago

I knew it was Vagn virtually straight away, but I didn't have any particular reasons and the only thing that spoiled this series for me was that I was right all along, that and the fact I knew Morten was the guilty party on the other half of the story - again no reasons, I just did and so wanted to be wrong again, but sadly wasn't. Ah well you can't have everything because it was pretty much faultless besides these facts.

[–] markskinuk-27-870544 13 years ago

Its a fair point about the series length but I don't really think the point of it was to be incredibly realistic/believable. Taken at face value the plot is utterly ludicrous but it is a TV thriller, structured to end on a cliffhanger each week and it was the most addictive series I can remember seeing.

The unanswered questions on the other hand are somewhat frustrating, particularly the machinations at City Hall where I'm still confused about who was informing on who for who.

But it was a great ride and that's the main thing.

[–] PoppyTransfusion 13 years ago

Re-the machinations at City Hall. This is my understanding, which might be wrong, so if anyone reading it thinks otherwise they can chip in.

Olav from Troels's office was reporting to Holck.
Rie obtained information about the mayor's conversation from the mayor's secretary having tried to get information from Dessau.
The journalist was being passed information by the mayor who I think had a police source - that last is my speculation.

rouge silk,
fierce concentrated joy,
fires the blood

[–] Gary-161 13 years ago

Try Durham County. Another completely preposterous but riveting series. I can't get enough of it.

[–] PoppyTransfusion 13 years ago

Thanks for the recommendation Gary but just checked it on Amazon and Play.com and it's not available yet as a region 2 DVD. I've started the French cop drama 'Spiral', which was apparently inspired by 'The Killing'. Just seen episode one, I'll have to wait and see with this one. There's no Lund character to hook one as quickly.

rouge silk,
fierce concentrated joy,
fires the blood

[–] bendipa 13 years ago

It was never revealed who was the mole in Troels's office. I think we can rule out Rie as she appeared to been an innocent party in all of this despite her shifty-eyed behaviour That leaves Olav and Morten. Morten emphatically denied sending the emails that Rie accused him of early on and it temporarily cost him his job..

Much later on in the series Morten discovers that Olav had been involved in unlawful activity on the City Hall's computer and challenges him. Later that episode Olav approaches Bremmer to tell him he wanted out, believing he had been working for him. So it appears he was the mole who hacked into Morten's computer and used his name to send off the emails to the press to sabotage Troel's campaign. Holck had nothing to do with that. Olav was not working for him. In fact Olav had been blackmailing him over the the lending of the flat keys, so Holck was in Olav's pocket. That leaves Dessau as the one Olav must have been working for, believing it was Bremmer, which would explain why Bremmer always seemed to be one step ahead of Troels, but may genuinely not have known of Dessau's arrangement with Olav..

[–] PoppyTransfusion 13 years ago

Hi bendipa, actually the e-mail sent from Morten's computer, supposedly by Olav, it was never clarified who in Bremer's office was the recipient. I also didn't understand the arrangement for the money Holck paid Olav for use of the flat: it was cleared by someone at the mayor's office? Dessau?

I think the Bremer was ignorant about Olav but he must have known there was a source from somewhere feeding his office.

rouge silk,
fierce concentrated joy,
fires the blood

[–] Gary-161 13 years ago

Poppy, check your private messages for link to Durham County.

[–] PoppyTransfusion 13 years ago

Gary thanks very much that's most kind of you!

rouge silk,
fierce concentrated joy,
fires the blood

[–] bendipa 13 years ago

It wasn't clarified who received Olav's emails, but it had to be Dessau, who in turn advised Bremer and kept him ahead of the game. Bremer most likely knew there was a source feeding his department from Troel's office but kept quiet for obvious reasons.. Holck was in charge of the environment department, and it was his department that authorised the payments to Olav, ie through Holck himself.