Any Australian viewers? - Forbrydelsen (2021) Discussion

[–] RexC 14 years ago

I've been watching most episodes. I'm in Melbourne, VIC.

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[–] photondancer 14 years ago

What do you think of it so far? SBS showed episode 6 in Sydney last night, I assume it will be the same in Melbourne. I'm hooked. I think the story so far and all the performances are solid. One criticism I had was that they were making Lund's replacement Meyer look like a bit of an idiot, but he was less gungho last night. Maybe the idea was that he relaxed once it looked like she really was going to Sweden at last.

I am finding the political ramifications confusing though; I don't understand why everything that happens at the school has to be okayed by Hartmann and his crew.

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[–] Bryanoz 14 years ago

I have been with it since the beginning as well, love it, even though it is slower than other great series like Unit One, I love how it's all about one death, and the impact on all who know her, says alot about the directing and filming, no car chases or shoot outs, quite a change.

The back and forth with the political side of it is related to how Hartmann had the teacher Rama picked out as his "role model" to show how "westeners" were intergrating into Danish life and culture.
There is quite a background to this issue in the Nordic countries.

The "role model" programme is high on Hartmann's political agenda, don't you love his little side kick, Rie?, she freaks out at anything.

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[–] bradjanet 14 years ago

In many countries, schools are the responsibilities of local councils or boards...eg: the USA, and it would appear that the same applies in Denmark. ... and yes, I'm completely hooked.

But you ARE Blanche ... and I AM.

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[–] gma145 14 years ago

I've been hooked since the second episode, and've been looking everywhere for English discussions without spoilers!

So, who does everyone think it is? I've been sure it was Rie for ages -she's involved in everything, is so possessive/controlling with Hartmann, she's worn boots like the ones Nanna was given and they seem to be setting up a romance between Lund and Hartmann, meaning his girlfriend has to disappear somehow ;-)...

But this last episode makes me think she's too obvious, so maybe it's the guy who replaced the old police superintendant -the actor's resemblance to Hartmann can't be an accident...

I also think the death of Hartmann's wife was the "hidden" murder the police've been looking for -notice how it keeps being brought up aroud the time they're discussing the missing women?

Love it!

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[–] fionahz 14 years ago

I'm in Sydney and I'm hooked on the Killing. It is the most compelling and real crime drama I've seen in years. Can't wait for the new episode each week. I love that it isn't obvious who the killer is. I change my mind on this every week; just like Lund does.

I also love how real the police seem. Sarah looks like she rarely goes home or changes her clothes and every character has flaws, just like real people.

Found out today it will be available on DVD in early May.

Photondancer, I think Hartmann owns the school, so that is why he is intimately involved in the investigation.

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[–] morrowmmm 13 years ago

No, Hartmann doesn't own the school, he is the councillor who is responsible for the school system in Copenhagen. His title, if I remember correctly, is "mayor of schools.

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[–] photondancer 14 years ago

That's great news about the DVD boxset, the acting in this show is good enough that I will want to watch it again even after I know whodunnit. At the end of each episode I grumble at having to wait a whole week for the next one.

While I agree that SBS's subtitles are excellent, I think they may have slipped a fraction on referring to Hartmann as 'school mayor'. Google knows not this phrase, so I think the 'mayor' needs to be replaced with something like chairman since I think he may be acting as chairman of the school board or similar. I would love to hear from a Danish person about this. It does sound like the school is a private one.

So Hartmann is finally under real suspicion which is what they've been building up to for weeks. I love that Rie, who has been shielding him all this time, dropped her protection the minute she found out he'd dated other women. Her jealousy makes her more real, up till now she's just been the perfect political sidekick. I'm not sure that she's directly involved unless it was to help hide the body.

I agree that the resemblance between the new police chief (Buchart's replacement, he called himself deputy manager I think) and Hartmann is not accidental. It could easily have been him in the car given how blurred the photo was. As for that phone call Buchart made, well! he knew full well that it would make Lund and Meyer suspicious and maybe that's why he did it, as a signal to them that this thing goes all the way to the top. But would he sacrifice his career over this?

Will post more later, I have to go now

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[–] photondancer 14 years ago

has anybody been keeping count of the episodes? we must be getting fairly near the end. This week's episode sounds like it's going to push the 'goes up to the top' angle.

I've been wondering for quite some time now if more than one person was involved in the crime; there may even have been more than one crime. I have trouble believing anybody would commit such a horrendous murder just to frame Hartmann when a far lesser crime would have sufficed to destroy him. This conflicts with Lund's fiance's belief that a serial killer is involved and that the car wasn't meant to be found.

After the last couple of episodes I've also started to entertain the possibility that Hartmann is guilty and this is all a stupendous double bluff. All the evidence against him is circumstantial so we can't tell either way, but if he can make it look like his opponents would trump up horrible charges against him just to win an election, they'd be destroyed.

Didn't Hartmann say his wife died of cancer? that's the kind of thing that can easily be checked.

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[–] Cherubim1 14 years ago

"The Killing" is certainly very tense, thrilling and unpredictable. The cold and dark atmosphere of the show adds to its already grim and brooding style.

As for who the killer or killers might be - it's still hard to say. It's interesting to note that the screenplay doesn't necessarily lead the viewer down a linear investigative path but rather, it unravels a labyrinth of connections, red-herrings and dead ends. This is what real police work is like, complete with mistakes and bad judgments. Having said that I feel that the show is probably dragging this element out a bit too long and many less-attentive viewers would probably be turned off by now.

I suspect that the real perpetrator(s) have framed Hoffmann for various reasons (one of course being his ambition to be mayor) and have remained elusive because of their obscurity and detachment. We might be dealing with high-level corruption which has utilised many players from both sides of the political fence wich makes it that much harder to isolate any person individually. The death of Nanna Birk Larsen could also be the result of someone's sick perversion gone wrong, and which character would know a great deal about such a field and would have the knowledge and skill to create a diversion scenario ? A psychologist or psychiatrist might which is why I think DCI Lund's ex-husband might be in on it.

Just my $0.05c

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[–] elsherif-737-572439 14 years ago

Yes,I have been watching since Episode 1.Love it.Although the late time slot 10.pm,(completely justified for ratings) I always stay up.

20 episodes in twenty investigative days, so much work to do in so little time. Well, from the start I had a hunch who might of done the deed, turns out I am right, no I will not spoil it by telling.

What a brilliant series. So many twists,turns and dead ends along the way.

I really like Lund's character. From day 1 she risks losing her personal life with her family and partner and is never content at leaving the case. I agree with all of the above by Cherubml. Lets'face it, who likes linear TV plots anyhow?

So you enjoyed this 20 episode saga,just wait for Forbrydelsen 11,its got all of the intrigue of the first series plus more.It simply has you by the seat of your pants.

Enjoy..
Lyn

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[–] photondancer 14 years ago

I find it interesting that last week's episode ended in swinging suspicion back to Nanna's home. I've been rather expecting that for quite a while now; the long detour into the various political suspects never wholly shook off a 'wild goose chase' flavor. Still, it's a fact that the corpse ended up in Hartmann's car so I'm waiting to see how they explain that.

Lund's dedication is not getting the respect it merits from her family, I feel. They don't seem to care that Nanna died a ghastly death and deserves justice. Since Lund has been a detective for many years you'd think they'd have come to terms with her long and unpredictable hours. Still, Meyer has finally started listening to her and learning.

I do hope that two-faced Bremer gets what's coming to him too.

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[–] elsherif-737-572439 14 years ago

The corspe ended up in Hartmanns car why, keep watching, its not clear in the end. Lets talk more about this in about 3 weeks.

To me Lund is the un-sung hero. I agree that the suspicion has come back to Theis home, especially when Lund found evidence hidden in Nannas room. She WAS hiding something, from nearly everyone!

What do you think of Vagn, Theis"s work mate? I have not believed (his role) from the begining. Too willing to do anything for the family, possible personality disorder, but he is not the only one either.I am sure he is implicated in some way. (OK I know he is).

Meyer has started to listen to Lund after a very strained working relationship, too bad that he is killed in the end.

Just remember the show is called the killing, not the killings.

Wlll Bremer emerge whiter than white or will he be found out, or is he still too valuable.

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[–] photondancer 14 years ago

Vagn has been a strange character from the start, so it would not surprise me to find out he is involved. But the show is currently throwing suspicion on his workmate Leon, who I think was also the taxi driver that claims to have driven Nanna to the flat. I don't remember seeing him working at Theis' firm before so it is a little unsatisfactory to have him dragged in now. It was a big surprise to find out that Nanna had been hiding her boyfriend from everyone, and he hasn't explained why he took 2 weeks to come forward and confess to the relationship.

Please try not to reveal information about the end, as you did with Meyer. Maybe you should put a spoiler tag over that bit in case other people reading this don't want to know.

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[–] elsherif-737-572439 14 years ago

Sorry about the Meyer thing. I will not divulge any more information. If you are implying that there maybe more than one person involved in the killing, you would be right.Leon is certainly a person of "concern".

Things will become clearer soon.
Happy watchinng.

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[–] kuzya-23-477484 13 years ago

I'm an Aussie viewer too and happily join the league of the raving about this show. I recently watched Forbrydelsen 2 online and despite the aweful subtitles, it's truly amazing. Still, dark, moody adn tense but a lot more action with a much faster pace. And you keep wodnering about the killer till the very end.

Aside from everything else other people have pointed out as brilliant in this show, the music and the end montage are pure genius. This show has done the impossilbe - made TV credits exciting to watch, or rather listen to!!!

I'm thrilled it was remade in the US and much to my amazement - quite decently unlike most american remakes, following it closely online.

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[–] elsherif-737-572439 13 years ago

Glad to see so many avid fans of Forbrydelsen series. I agree with you it is pure genuis. On a negative, the subtitles do not do it justice though. I was apprehensive about the US remake, but will reserve my judgement until I see it.

I would really like to be a "fly on the wall" when Soren Sviestrup, (Head writer) plans his next piece of writing. From a purely intellectual view point what motivates him to write in this style,using the cover of darkness and moodiness to tell the story, in my mind adds an enormous depth to each episode.

Wanting to know more, I have read and viewed several overseas interviews with Forbrydelsens'script writers and it gave me an insight into so many aspects of the show, (and script writing in general) what direction the show should take and why.

Remember, life has loose ends, not everything is tied up in neat little bows.
In my mind, for what its worth F1, F2 and F3 are linked, food for thought?

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