So this is what kids today consider rock?!

Well pal, rock and metal are two different things but they got the same rotes and that is the blues. Rock is so many different things and many different styles. AC/DC, Bon Jovi, Metallica and Black Sabbath are considered rock but they are very different in style.

I like Iggy, Ramones and Motörhead. But I also listen to other bands. I must say I like almost all kinds of rock and punk. But I hate grunge.

The good, or in your opinion bad, with music is that it is so wide so everyone can find songs that they like. Sure, some music is massproduced sh!t written by a stupid computer selled by the records companies to 14-year old idiots. But we don't have to listen to that if we don't wan't to.

And one last thing: Ramones are a punk band, some consider them the first real punk band ever, and isn't Tiger Army psychobilly? You here, Rock is such a big term.

ok, im sorry to tell you this PhantomOfLiberty, but those bands suck. most of them, with the exception of Iggy and Motörhead have no musical telent. They can play three chords! wow amazing! some real music, would be as follows, in alphabetic order:

AC/DC
Aerosmith
B.B. King
The Beatles
Black Sabbath
The Byrds
David Bowie
Deep Purple
The Doors
Elton John
Fleetwood Mac
Heart
Iron Butterfly
Iron Maiden
Janis Joplin
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
John Lennon
Kiss
Led Zeppelin
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Metallica
Nirvana
Ozzy
Paul McCartney
Queen
Rainbow
Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Rolling Stones
Rush
Steppenwolf
Steve Vai
Stevie Nicks
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Thin Lizzy
Tom Petty
Van Halen (David Lee Roth years)
The Who
Wolfmother
The Yardbirds

by the way, im 14 years old, so we are not all idiots! :)

i want large bread! but you fold it and it keeps breaking.....
-Nigel Tufnel

oh i forgot Chuck Berry!!!!

i want large bread! but you fold it and it keeps breaking.....
-Nigel Tufnel

First let me start by agreeing that RS:Supernova was pretty much a crap-fest. Their preening and posing killed what could have been a great series.

That said, however, you are obviously one of those who (narrow-mindedly) subscribe to the concept that any band who has had significant commercial success, must by definition, be crap. I notice that not one entry on your list is what could legitimately be called a "big name" band. With the exception of a few notables who were big in their own niche markets (ie: Motorhead, Ramones, DK, etc.), most of the bands you've named are little known outside of hardcore fans in their given genre. This is not to say that they lack talent (SOME of them are, indeed, great bands), but they have never achieved any major main-stream success. Not to mention that most (note: I did not say ALL) of these are punk/alternative bands, or similar genres. The simple fact is, TV has to go for the ratings, which means they need big name, commercial, money making prospects. This doesn't have to mean crap music though. Many of the bands which QueenOfVinyl list are damned hot bands who managed to be great "despite" having achieved commercial success.

I don't see how anyone who is a serious music fan can argue the greatness of B.B. King, even if you are not a fan of his specific type of music. And "even though" he made it big commercially, Hendrix has been widely accepted (even by many of the artists you named), to be THE king of the electric guitar. Just because you don't like the style or genre of music, doesn't mean that those who play it lack talent. Personally, I'd rather eat my own eyes than listen to modern rap music, but that doesn't mean that I can't accept that SOME of the artists are damned talented. And of course, like all types of music, some are no talent hacks, cashing in on the latest trends.

Trying to define "REAL" rock and roll is retarded, especially considering rock started with artists like Chuck Berry who sound nothing like any of the artists you mentioned. Rock can be metal, rock can be punk, it can also be pop, folk, or any other number of sub-genres.